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eibache
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Posted - 31/08/2012 :  09:03:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The bapt record for Elise Caroline is #65.

Einar
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eibache
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Posted - 31/08/2012 :  09:32:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Engelbret, his widowed father, his sisters and his fathers mother in 1865.
Anne Nilsdatter, a servant in 1875.
Elise and Ida with their father in 1875 - the father now most likely married 2nd time with two children, Karen Antonia and Johan.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 31/08/2012 09:39:55
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jwiborg
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Posted - 01/09/2012 :  00:21:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Census-1910:
Carl Borgmann, b. 23.07.1858, born in Sweden, occupation: verger
Elise Borgmann, b. 03.02.1859, born in Ullensaker, housewife
Wilhelm Borgmann, b. 09.11.1893, born in Kristiania, son, electrical apprentice
Christine Borgmann, b. 08.04.1896, born in Østre Bærum, high school student
Anne Kaasa, b. 30.11.1884, born in Sande, single lodger, grade school teacher

#44 Anne Kirstine Nilsdatter b.1857 & Vilhelm Hagbart Solberg b.1851
Marriage: 04 Jun 1882, Paulus church, Oslo, Norway
His father: Widower, seaman Nils Nilsen Solberg
Her father: Nils Ingebretsen
Source: Oslo county, Paulus, Parish register (official) nr. 4 (1879-1891), Marriage records 1882, page 188.

A stillborn male to Anne Kirstine Nilsdatter & Vilhelm Hagbart Solberg, born 09 Aug 1894, Paulus, Oslo, Norway

#13, Ida Marie Nilsdatter, midwife, unmarried
Dead: 15 Sep 1897, buried 24 Sep 1897
Born: 1861 at Kåstad
Residence: Vilgjerdsrud
Cause of death: Tuberculosis

Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 01/09/2012 01:50:03
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TLarson
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Posted - 01/09/2012 :  04:23:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just wondering where Einar found the information for Elise and Carl's children.

Is there anyway to find out if any of them ever emigrated to America or what happened to them later in life?

I'm interested to know if they might have had descendants and if I would have relatives in Norway from them.
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eibache
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Posted - 01/09/2012 :  07:36:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Einar Arnold was married in 1910 - no children (yet).
No hit for Aagot (Ågot) Kristine in the 1910 census.

White papers indicate it is 10 persons with the last name Borgmann in Norway today.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 01/09/2012 15:51:02
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jwiborg
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Posted - 01/09/2012 :  15:38:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TLarson

Just wondering where Einar found the information for Elise and Carl's children.
At https://familysearch.org/

Jan Peter
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jwiborg
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Posted - 01/09/2012 :  16:32:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Census-1900 shows that Carl & Elise also have a daughter Thora, born 20.07.1899.

From Aftenposten, Sep 8th, 1902:
Our Dear little Thora died today.
The funeral starts from our Home on Thursday Sep. 11th 1902 at 2.30pm
Østre Aker Church, Sep 6th, 1902
Elise & Carl Borgmann




Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 01/09/2012 16:35:48
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jwiborg
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Posted - 01/09/2012 :  16:55:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Oslo city archives have two records related to verger C. Borgmann:
Case 131/1932
Title: Retirement pension to verger C. Borgmann
Decision date: 08 Jul 1932

Case 77/1933
Title: Pension to verger C. Borgmann's widow
Decision date: 13 Jul 1933

Thus; Carl Borgmann must have died in 1933.



Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 01/09/2012 16:58:16
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TLarson
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Posted - 01/09/2012 :  17:20:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What does Verger refer to? Is it Carl Borgman's occupation or is it a name?

Also, where it says pension to verger C. Borgman - does that mean the pension was being given to Carl Borgman who was a verger and then he died the next year?

Is it likely that Carl and Elise would have been buried in the Østre Aker Church cemetery?

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jwiborg
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Posted - 01/09/2012 :  17:32:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TLarson

What does Verger refer to? Is it Carl Borgman's occupation or is it a name?

Also, where it says pension to verger C. Borgman - does that mean the pension was being given to Carl Borgman who was a verger and then he died the next year?

Is it likely that Carl and Elise would have been buried in the Østre Aker Church cemetery?
Definition of the occupation Verger
To your other two questions: Yes x 2.

Jan Peter
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TLarson
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Posted - 01/09/2012 :  18:02:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Are you also saying that Carl and Elise would have been buried in the Østre Aker Church cemetery?
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TLarson
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Posted - 03/09/2012 :  05:44:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm trying to find more information on John/Johan Kostad. He was born August 20, 1874. I believe this link shows his baptism #114
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?show=188&uid=276443&urnread_imagesize=full&hode=nei&ls=1&lc=x%259CK%25B42%25B2%25AA.%25B62%25B4R%25CAT%25B2.%25B62%25B1R2%25B505%25011%2581B%25C5J%25D6%2599V%2586%2516%2516%25D6%25B5%2500%25C9%25D8%2509%25F9

I would like to find out when he left Norway for America. Most of his family left in 1892, but he isn't listed with them.

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jkmarler
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Posted - 03/09/2012 :  05:56:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The link doesn't work. It would be better to copy and paste the permanent pagelink from the information on the page rather than trying to copy the address in the web browser window.
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TLarson
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Posted - 03/09/2012 :  06:03:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When I click on the link it works... I see that it says he was baptized Oct. 11, 1874, which when I look back I see someone already noted.

I am having trouble finding him in the emigrant database. I would appreciate help with this!
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 03/09/2012 :  07:47:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Johan Nilsen, Kaastad leaving Ullensaker 1892, see #3 middle of left page.
Other family members see #18-23 on right page.

Left Norway March 11 1892, see 117733.
Other family members here.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 03/09/2012 09:31:37
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