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Kċarto
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Norway
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Posted - 11/04/2007 :  23:39:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can take a look up for you later this week, I live close to Statsarkivet/Digitalarkivet.

Kċre
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Joe Holman Halsrud
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USA
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Posted - 12/04/2007 :  00:42:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok, thanks -- I just tried to look for that book out there, but I didn't see it - so I appreciate what you will look up.

Joe.

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Kċarto
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Posted - 14/04/2007 :  00:28:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, not surprised but
I don´t find any Halsrud in the local bygdebook from Land written between 1914-48 (long time).
All the children in the 1865 census on Halsrud Nordre I could find online was born on farm Klevmoen which likely was the housewife Inger M. Hansdatter´s birth place (spelled Lisbeth in the comfimation records to her Children and migr. record).
Halsrud is likely coming from the father Ole Olsen, but since records from their wedding, birth or earlier are not online yet I can´t find out or secure it.

Perhaps/likely local historian books on Digitalarkivet for Oppland County in Hamar municipality will have much more information from Land.
Why Klevmoen and not Halsrud are used in the confim. records I have no idee about.
Klevmoen in Torpen in Nordre Land is decendants from widower Kjell Andersen from Tinn municipality in Telemark county who settled down in Torpen with 5 sons and cleared new land betwen 1700-1710.

Agnetes confirmation, piger/Girls, born Des. 28, 1852, nr 6, Agnete Olsdatter, Klevmoen i Torpen: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8981&idx_id=8981&uid=ny&idx_side=-120

Migration records 1867 nr 10-16 and the name Klevmoen, Agnete b. Des. 28. 1852: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8981&idx_id=8981&uid=ny&idx_side=-208

It seem that the either the Halsrud name not was official before after 1865 ore just forgotten in the book from Land, Ole Olsen Halsrud in the 1901 census on Halsrud Nordre is Agnetes brother in the 1865 census, he took over the farm.

Farms which are not mentioned in "Boka on LAND" is not my first experience.
Immigrants from N. and S. Land in USA called themselves Landinger and the main landingsettlements in USA was Hillsboro N.D., Bode and West Paint Creek Iowa, Rock Praire, Wiota, Richland Co. and Trempeleau Co. in Wis and Zumbrota and Norway Lake Min.

So we have to wait until new records online are available and can verify this, I don´t get any further.

Kċre

Edited by - Kċarto on 14/04/2007 01:08:20
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jwiborg
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Posted - 14/04/2007 :  01:22:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
looking at the Landno / Titleno (Gnr/Bnr) for the area, Halsrud looks to be small holding/farm under the main farm Komperud.
I could not find Komperud in the 1801 census, but the farm would have been located in Lands parish, under "Gaarder Annex" (sub-parish). There are only 19 farms registered there, and one of them are called Ruud. Could that be Komperud?

Jan Peter
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Kċarto
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Posted - 14/04/2007 :  10:05:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Jan Peter,
"Boka om land" need an updating (a question of money for the local historian assosiaton), if not others are available at the library at Dokka.
Perhaps a new look up after Komperud can give an answer.

When this Bygde-bok was finished 60 years ago "everbody" knew which was who even not always official names was used. (Remember Tjernseth?)

In 2007 we don´t.

Kċre

Edited by - Kċarto on 14/04/2007 11:16:51
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Joe Holman Halsrud
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USA
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Posted - 17/04/2007 :  23:49:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Where is Klevmoen in Torpen?

I do not exactly see it on the farm map.

Joe.

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Kċarto
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Posted - 18/04/2007 :  00:09:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Joe,

Klevmoen is north of the population centre Dokka.
Write and enter Torpa, remove "verktĝy" tool and n. s - Klemoen.s (southern Klemoen) is coming up left. The satelite is not working in this area (cloudy or?). Klemoem was named Klevmoen in the 1865 censuc and earlier, but was spelled Klemmoen in the migration records, now in 2007 it´s bck to Klemoen

Edited by - Kċarto on 18/04/2007 00:11:21
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Joe Holman Halsrud
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USA
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Posted - 18/04/2007 :  01:19:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok, I see Torpa on the map above Dokka. But, you lost me with these instructions. What I am I doing these action with - which web site?

Write and enter Torpa, remove "verktĝy" tool and n. s - Klemoen.s (southern Klemoen) is coming up left.

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Kċarto
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Posted - 18/04/2007 :  12:13:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
all operations as navigatoion and zooming is available in the map.
When you see Torpa (Torpen), on the left top on the map you will find a description named "verktĝy"- tool, dobbelclick on the map close to where "kart" is written or left where an n. is visible, and Klemoen. s (Southern), Klemoen nordre (Northern) and Klemoen nedre (lower) appears to you.

Kċre
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Joe Holman Halsrud
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USA
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Posted - 18/04/2007 :  15:11:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
what web site are you using for the map?

Joe Holman (Halsrud)
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Joe Holman Halsrud
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USA
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Posted - 19/04/2007 :  22:51:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm confused about what web site these instructions are being specified for - could I get a pointer?

all operations as navigatoion and zooming is available in the map.
When you see Torpa (Torpen), on the left top on the map you will find a description named "verktĝy"- tool, dobbelclick on the map close to where "kart" is written or left where an n. is visible, and Klemoen. s (Southern), Klemoen nordre (Northern) and Klemoen nedre (lower) appears to you.

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Kċarto
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Posted - 20/04/2007 :  00:04:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Joe, perhaps I forgot to send you this map, I guess I would have been a miserable teacher, sorry about that.
http://kart.finn.no/

Kċre
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Joe Holman Halsrud
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USA
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Posted - 21/04/2007 :  05:25:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do you happen to see the marriage location and date of

Agnete Olsdatter born Des. 28, 1852, nr 6,

to a Erik Olsen? they had a son Olaf Ericksen.

Is there a death to Erik Olsen?


Agnete then seems to marry a Peter Hansen who she comes to the US with.

I suspected she was married before because of Olaf Ericksen Halsrud coming to the US.

I found a reference in the LDS site that she was married twice, but I'd like to learn more about the Erik Olsen (date of marriage, farm, etc.)

Thanks so much!


Joe Holman (Halsrud)
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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 21/04/2007 :  15:56:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The birth/baptismal record for Olaf Eriksen can be found on LDS microfilm #1282582, in Bok 2 of minister's records for Nordre Land.
That record is ALSO in the online scanned collection at the Digitalarkivet -- Oppland fylke, Nordre Land, Ministerialbok nr. 2 (1872-1881).

The birth/baptismal record for Olaf Eriksen indicates that his parents are NOT married, in fact neither parent has ever been married as of 1 Dec 1872.
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Kċarto
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Posted - 21/04/2007 :  16:47:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Agnete was only about 15 years when she left Norway, only three days after her confimation April 7. 1867, Piger-Girls nr 6
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8981&idx_id=8981&uid=ny&idx_side=-120

Emigration records Nordre Land April 10. 1867, person nr 11, Pige/Girl Agnete Olsdatter b. 22.12.52, her siblings nr 12-13-14 and parents nr 15 and 16, Gardmand/Farmer Ole Olsen Klevmoen age 46 and Kone/Wife Lisbeth H. age 48.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8981&idx_id=8981&uid=ny&idx_side=-208

The family emigrated on Bark Johannes Rĝd, dep. port Oslo april 26, dest. Quebec Mai 31.
Passengers nr 219-228
http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_list.asp?jo=950

In 1867 and -68 started the first wave of emigrants from both nordre and Sĝndre Land and many of them ended in Wis. or Iowa

To find out more we need records from church books earlier than 1860 from Nordre Land, but these are not online yet.

Kċre

Edited by - Kċarto on 21/04/2007 17:48:22
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