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hjemmet
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USA
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 Posted - 19/06/2007 : 16:21:36
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I have not been able to read the Sauherad Bygdebok yet, but have found another Birger Kirkeby source translated into English which contains quite a bit of the information from the same sources:
Hallvard Gråtopp from Lindheim Skipreide and the Events of the 1430's, a translation by Evi Christenson from the Nynorsk of "Halvard Gråtopp Frå Lindheim Skipreide Og Hendingane i 1430-åra" av Birger Kirkeby. Published by the Sauherad Historical Society, Norway 1996.
Here is the link:
http://members.shaw.ca/mekee%20%20/index.html
This is an 80 page +/- document which is well worth printing out for all the translated references to Hem and Lindheim (and other Sauherad region) family information, NOT just referring to the 1430's... Birger Kirkeby is certainly a thorough researcher! What a gem this is!!!
On page 11 of the “Source References and Comments” I found a piece of information about one of those old Hem names that refutes some of the commonly found genealogy on the www about old Hem's. (Kåre had warned me that there is “much unserious research” out there, as did Hopkins who complained of frustration with inaccuracies in some of the world tree information.) That is, several trees I have encountered show the Hem descendants linked to Cecilia Ivarsdatter Nes as mother of Vetrlide Borgarsson of Hem's son, Borgar Vetrlidesson of Hem. That link would have made our Hems direct blood kin to the Norwegian king, Håkon IV. And until scouring this amazing document above, I also had assumed that to be true.
Then I found the following (as cited above):
“It is clear that there was a sort of connection between Lord Ivar and the family from Lindheim. In the Cadaster, it says -- RB27 – that Vetrlide owned Nes in the Nes Parish 'which Lord Ogmund Finnsson gave to the Gimsøy Cloister... “ and next paragraph...
“Vetrlide was married to Cecilia, the widow of Torbjørn Saksabjørnsson and around 1400 Vetrlide of Nes gave 1 markebol of Midgarden Sveinseid in Lunde to the Holla prestebord for the salvation of the soul of 'Cecilia kono sinna', that is, Cecilia who was his wife. Furthermore, it is said, 'Og serdeilis gaafuo synir henna'. This must be understood to mean that she had sons but not with Vetrlide.”
(Emphasis mine. )
This of course suggests Vetrlide must have been married and fathered his son Borger, before he married for the second time to widow Cecilia. (Sorry for the confusion if you read the unedited post...e)
I feel it is worth posting this tidbit in case other researchers of this ancient HEM family stumble across this Forum topic.
It seems likely I will find, via Auslag Saksabjørnsdatter of Lindheim (the wife of Borgar Vetrlidesson), the links to “Upper Nobility” (i.e. Knights) and possibly to royalty as well. There are possibly other lines that will go there, but I am still slowly working my way through this.
This document did also clarify for me that “upper nobility/lower nobility” distinction. Upper nobility being the “kings bodyguards” (as Kåre has interpreted earlier) or Knights, sometimes referred to as Lords. The lower nobility (as my Hem people) were the equivalent of “Squires” -- the large land holders.
I apologize for the long post. I do feel the above could be helpful to other Hem researchers. Plus, it was a very exciting document to read! Very dear to learn about this rebellion against foreign control which originated right there in Sauherad amongst people from whom I am descended!
Ellie Hem Hjemmet |
Edited by - hjemmet on 20/06/2007 18:54:54 |
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HEM relatives in Arendal, Telemark? & Denmark
