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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 22/07/2007 :  11:42:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thorbjørn and Annes marriage in 1844, see #31 here http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=11392&idx_id=11392&uid=ny&idx_side=-253
Here is Ole and Siri at the Buen farm in 1865, http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=31&filnamn=f61212&gardpostnr=481&personpostnr=3036&merk=3036#ovre

Einar
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 22/07/2007 :  11:43:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ole (Olai) Tornelius Tørresen´s confirmation was in Holmedal church Oct. 11. 1891, nr 5.

Parents: Bager Tørris Olsen Sandvold and Margrete Torbjørnsdatter
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2154&idx_id=2154&uid=ny&idx_side=-110

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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran

Norway
5861 Posts

Posted - 22/07/2007 :  12:24:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ole Torelius came back for his sister Serine b. 1886.
Ole T. Sandvold was now a citizen of Iowa.
March. 31. 1905, dest. Iowa USA.
Årsak-cauce of the trip, Været hj. (hjemme) på besøg -been at home on a visit (his family), ship: Stjerne (Star)

Ole nr 54200.

Serine nr 54204

Sirene Torisdr Sandvold emm.record April 1. 1905, dest. Iowa.

Merknad "Reiser med sin broder" Traveling with her brother. Ship: Stj-Stjerne.
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=16&filnamn=EMIBERG&gardpostnr=54204&merk=54204#ovre

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 22/07/2007 12:40:15
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ddummy
Junior member

USA
51 Posts

Posted - 22/07/2007 :  17:43:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am so excited! You all have given me so much valuable information. I can not thank you enough. This is now definately my favorite site on the internet.. Now I need to review all of teh wonderful links you have given me.

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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 23/07/2007 :  00:53:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just a small correction to my 10.11.06 message and some supplement .
FL means she was a renter related to the family (normaly FL means several)
e means she was a widow
Spending in Norwegian was her profession, spinning.

It seems Ole Tørresen Sandvold changed to Torissen before he returnerd for a visit bringing his sister Serine back with him to Iowa.
He likely baught her the ticket named: Serine Torisdtr Sandvold, the letter Ø was already exchanged with an O.

Even Ole already was a US citizen, when he was asked for the cause of the trip back to Norway he answered "been at home for a visit"

Kåre
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ddummy
Junior member

USA
51 Posts

Posted - 23/07/2007 :  01:43:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm confused with member elbache's first link on Johanne Gurine Born in 1880. You said this was Ole's sister. --Are you speaking about Ole Tornelius Sandvold? So then he has a third sister besides Serine and Anna that was not on the 1865
Census because she wasn't born yet?
It doesn't appear that the parents names are correct. Which Ole are you speaking of?
Jean
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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 23/07/2007 :  02:38:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The parents were not even married at the time of the 1865 census. Johanne Gurine does have the same parents, she was born in 1880 and therefore would not appear on any census until the 1900.

She does not appear to be living at home with her parents and those two other sisters in 1900 - so she is either working and living in another household (seems perfectly normal for a 20 year old) or she did not survive until 1900. If you just search through the birth/baptismal records after their marriage you may find more children born to that couple - but of course you'd have to concentrate on the column listing parents names - since you would not know the names of children yet undiscovered.

Edited by - Hopkins on 23/07/2007 02:40:02
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 23/07/2007 :  10:24:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You started the tread by asking if your grandfather Ole had any brothers or sisters.
Yes I am speaking about your grandfather named Ole Tornelius Sandvold in USA - Olai Tornelius Tørrisen Sandvold in Norway born June 8 1877 his parents were Tørris Olsen and Margrethe Torbjørnsdatter.
Unfortunately I said that Johanne Gurine was born in 1880 - this was the church year - she was born Dec 21 1879.
The other two sister were Serine #4 here http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2154&idx_id=2154&uid=ny&idx_side=-19
and Anna #2 here http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2154&idx_id=2154&uid=ny&idx_side=-21
Tørris and Margrethe also had a dead born boy in 1883, see #3 here http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2154&idx_id=2154&uid=ny&idx_side=-92

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 23/07/2007 12:39:00
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eibache
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Norway
6495 Posts

Posted - 23/07/2007 :  13:03:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Johanne Gurine was confirmed Oct 21 1894 in Husnæs, see bottom of page here http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2154&idx_id=2154&uid=ny&idx_side=-116.
Serine was confirmed Oct 7 1900 also at Husnæs, see bottom of page here http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2154&idx_id=2154&uid=ny&idx_side=-127
Anna was confirmed Oct 12 1902, see #10 here http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2154&idx_id=2154&uid=ny&idx_side=-129 Serine emm to America, but what happened to other two daughters after this takes more work than I intend to put in at the moment.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 23/07/2007 14:00:57
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eibache
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Norway
6495 Posts

Posted - 23/07/2007 :  15:47:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tørris Olsens mother Seri Knusdat. Sandvold in the 1900 census - actually Siri Knudsdatter died April 12 1905, see #1 here http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2154&idx_id=2154&uid=ny&idx_side=-209
she was born at Vik Dec 17 in 1817, see #62 here http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=11665&idx_id=11665&uid=ny&idx_side=-18
her parents being Knud and Udna Wiig, farmers.
Ole had died Aug 19 1890, see #4 here http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2154&idx_id=2154&uid=ny&idx_side=-189
he was born at Skarveland in 1811 and christened Febr 3, see here http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=11664&idx_id=11664&uid=ny&idx_side=-38
his parents were Tørris and Guri Scharveland.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 23/07/2007 16:01:32
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ddummy
Junior member

USA
51 Posts

Posted - 23/07/2007 :  20:06:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Member eibache,
You are so kind to spend so much time on this for me. I want you to know how very much I have appreciated all of the work you have done for me as well as Member Hopkins and Member Kaarto (kare). I now have some Norwegien to English dictionaries ( thanks to your links) that are helping me along but would like one more favor when you have time. Could someone translate to English the following heading for me?
"Foraeldrnes Fulde Navne og Borgerlige Stilling" ? I understand some but can't find everything in my translation dictionary. The first name is troubling but I think the rest is: ?? Full Name and Marriage, Occupation. How am I doing Friends?
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran

Norway
6495 Posts

Posted - 23/07/2007 :  20:18:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You do all right - some more training and you will be an excellent translater. Here is mine based on a more modern norwegian
Foreldrenes (The parents) fulde (complete) navn (names) og (and) borgerlige (civil) stilling (standing)

Einar
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
3351 Posts

Posted - 23/07/2007 :  20:58:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The translations of standard parish record formats are included in those articles I keep trying to get you to study.
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na23.html
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na20.html
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/articles.html
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ddummy
Junior member

USA
51 Posts

Posted - 23/07/2007 :  22:05:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, you are right Member Hopkins, I do need to study!! From now on, I'll try to study on my own! I've only been at this for about a week now but plan on making it my new hobby. The link to John Folledal has been very helpful , as I know you sent it before, but I had not completed all of the links and articles yet. I plan to do that before I go any further. I have alot of notes already.

Takk.
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
3351 Posts

Posted - 24/07/2007 :  01:10:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I hope you have a genealogy software program. Entering the information into one will help you keep the names and timelines straight.
There are many types of such software - from simple and cheap (even free) to complex and a bit more costly.
If you choose NOT to use genealogy software I hope you are far more organized than I am. I'd be lost without my software - it keeps track of thousands of names and places for me -- but still hasn't completely stopped the piles of paper and notes that I generate.

Let me know when you'd like some new topics for study... like how to use the Digitalarkivet databases and scanned parish records; of course they won't be of much additional help until you've studied the basics.
You don't have to memorize this information - just get familiar with it and know where you can find it again when you need it .

I think you are doing very well for ONE week!

A good basic website which will allow you to find much online advice on genealogy - topics range from advice for beginners, software, forms, and links for special areas like NORWAY.
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