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nuttydenise
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 Posted - 13/10/2007 : 05:10:08
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Hi my name is Denise, I am looking for anybody that knows information on the farm name of ENGUM. I know that the family was from the oppland area and they settled in the Town of New Hope in wisconsin. My great grandfather name is Ole Peder Engum and was born in wisconsin.
Any help would be appreaciated
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eibache
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Posted - 13/10/2007 : 07:26:58
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| The farm name Engum can be found both at Biri and Fron in Oppland county. Some names, birth year etc would be needed to find the right one. |
Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 13/10/2007 07:27:22 |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 13/10/2007 : 09:59:56
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Hi,
is this your family?
Johan & Anne Engum with kids are living in New Hope, Portage, Wisconsin in 1880.
(I saw that one Ole Peter Engum got married in Portage, Wisconsin...)
Anne Engum's mother Anne Mehlum is living with them.
Their son Albert is born in Wisconsin ab. 1862, so this family emigrated before the norwegian 1865-census.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 13/10/2007 : 13:43:12
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Johan Amundsen (Engum) & Ane Halvorsdatter are from Østre Gausdal in Oppland county.
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Could they be the parents to Ole Peder Engum?
Census-1860 for New Hope, Portage, Wisconsin:
John Ammonson (35)
Anna Ammonson (30)
Antonio Ammonson (10)
Hans Ammonson (7)
Anna Ammonson (3)
Jan Peter
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jwiborg
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Posted - 13/10/2007 : 14:13:31
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Looks like this must be the right family! 
Ole Peder Engum, death: 30 MAR 1936
Pauline Petersen, birth: OCT 1873
Marriage: 19 SEP 1895, New Hope, Portage, Wisconsin.
Peder D. Engum
Birth: 3 Mar 1872, Nelsonville, Portage, Wi
Death: 30 Mar 1936, Stevens Pt., Portage, Wi
Burial: 2 Apr 1936, New Hope, Portage, Wi
Parents: Johan Amundsen & Ane Halvorsdatter
Marriage: 19 Sep 1895, New Hope, Portage, Wi
Pauline Petersen
Birth: Oct 1873, New Hope, Portage, Wi
Death: Aft 1936
Parents: Peter Gunderson & Guri
Ole Peder Engum = Peder D. Engum in the records
His parents are Johan Amundsen & Ane Halvorsdatter from Østre Gausdal in Oppland.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 13/10/2007 : 14:35:50
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Their daughter Johanne, born 25 JAN 1855 are born on Øvre Frøsen in Gausdal, Oppland.
Census-1865 for Gausdal has a farm named Frøsenengum.
The farm today looks to be called Frøyse. A neighboring farm is called Mælum. That looks to be the farm where Anne Halvorsdatter are from.
The Frøyse farm is 30 km north-west of Lillehammer.
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eibache
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Posted - 13/10/2007 : 16:05:01
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The 1801 census have one farm Mælum, see here.
The couple on the farm is Christen Jaensen and Kari Gundersdatter and their daughter Anne 4 years old.
Anne Mehlum 78 years in 1880 should have been born 1802 by this couple then. The parish record shows that they christened a daughter Martha Aug 22 that year, see #26 |
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Lislcat
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Posted - 13/10/2007 : 16:59:03
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Hi All,
A large percentage of the Norwegian's that settled in New Hope township and nearby Alban township were from Gausdal. Many of them were related, so one came over and then you see siblings or nephews settling nearby.
In "From The Indian Land" it states, "Johan A. Engum, from Gausdal, born February 2, 1826, and wife Anne, from Gausdal, born October 14, 1831. Their children were Johannes, Carl, and Peder, born in New Hope." There is also a Lars H. Engum that settled in New Hope.
They are listed as early settlers of New Hope. "Johan Enjom (Engom) and wife Anne Enjom, together with Lars Enjom, a bachelor, all from Gausdal."
There is a picture of a group of people with a threshing machine and one of the people listed in the picture is Albert Engun. I'm not sure if he is part of that family or not.
Wanda
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jwiborg
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Posted - 13/10/2007 : 17:46:20
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Albert engum must be Ole Peder's brother.
The link I gave above indicates that Anne Mehlum = Anne Larsdatter, and that she is born in Østre Gausdal on 20 Jan 1811 by parents Lars Olsen & Guri Paulsdr
Children of Johan Amundsen & Ane Halvorsdatter from LDS (pedigree):
Anthon Amundsen, born: 20 Nov 1850, Østre Gausdal, Oppland
Hans Amundsen, born: 05 Sep 1852, Østre Gausdal, Oppland
Johanne Amundsen, born: 25 Jan 1855, Østre Gausdal, Oppland
Albert Engum, born: 28 Oct 1860, New Hope, Portage, Wi
Eliza Engum, born: 28 Sep 1861, New Hope, Portage, Wi
James A. Engum, born: 25 Jan 1866, Nelsonville, Portage, Wi
Carl Engum, born: Dec 1869, Nelsonville, Portage, Wi
Lewis Engum, born: Abt 1870, Nelsonville, Portage, Wi
Peder D. Engum, born: 03 Mar 1872, Nelsonville, Portage, Wi (Ole Peder Engum)
Mathilda Engum, born: Abt 1877, Nelsonville, Portage, Wi
Child, born: Abt. 1879, Nelsonville, Portage, Wi
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Lislcat
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Posted - 13/10/2007 : 18:06:41
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Hi,
I think I have a hint as to when they came to the US.
From the same book. "Lars Halverson, bachelor, to U.S. June 30, 1857, from Gausdal, born April 1, 1835." "Anne Larsdatter, a widow, to U.S. June 30, 1857, from Gausdal, born January 15, 1911. (As both Lars Halvorson and Anne Larsdatter came on the same ship, there is reason to believe that Lars was her son). "
If you look at what I wrote before, you will notice that Lars is listed as Lars H. Engum.
It lists Johanne Engom in the index, but I can't find her in the book. I'll keep looking.
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Edited by - Lislcat on 13/10/2007 18:44:41 |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 13/10/2007 : 18:45:54
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I wonder if the book got the emigration year wrong?
Anne Larsdatter became a widow on 25 May 1858, when her husband Halvor Olsen Mælum died.
Maybe it should read June 30, 1858?
The family can be found in Census-1860 for New Hope, Portage, Wisconsin.
Halvor Olsen Mælum
Christening: 02 Jul 1786, Østre Gausdal, Oppland
Death: 25 May 1858, Østre Gausdal, Oppland
wife 1: Anne Iversdr
Birth: 1796
Marriage: 16 Jun 1817, Østre Gausdal, Oppland
Death: 07 Jan 1826, Østre Gausdal, Oppland
wife 2: Anne Larsdr
Birth: 20 Jan 1811, Østre Gausdal, Oppland
Marriage: 20 Jun 1831, Østre Gausdal, Oppland
Death: 04 Apr 1890, New Hope, Portage, Wisconsin
Children to Halvor Olsen & 1st wife Anne Iversdr:
Hans Halvorsen, chr 03 SEP 1815 Østre Gausdal, Oppland
Ole Halvorsen, chr 03 MAY 1818 Østre Gausdal, Oppland
Marit Halvorsdr, chr 02 SEP 1821 Østre Gausdal, Oppland
Simen Halvorsen, chr 05 APR 1825 Østre Gausdal, Oppland
Children to Halvor Olsen & 2nd wife Anne Larsdr:
Ane Halvorsdr
Birth: 14 Oct 1831, Østre Gausdal, Oppland
Death: 31 Oct 1910, Marshfield, Portage, Wi
Lars Halvorsen
Birth: 01 Apr 1835, Østre Gausdal, Oppland
Death: 08 Jul 1902, New Hope, Portage, Wi
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Lislcat
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Posted - 13/10/2007 : 19:07:52
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Here they are leaving Norway, from the Gausdal parish records.
Anne Larsdatter #160, Lars Halvorsen #161 and I beleive this is Johannes, Anne and their children # 168 - 172. If someone could please look at this and see if I'm correct and translate, I'd really appreciate it. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070201620197.jpg
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Lislcat
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Posted - 13/10/2007 : 19:13:12
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I should of added that the date for the emigration from Gausdal, was April 5, 1857, on those records.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 13/10/2007 : 19:35:29
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You're right, that is the correct people. Strange that Anne Larsdr's husband died the year after...? 
160 Anne Larsdatter (46)
161 Lars Halvorsen Mælum (22)
168 Johan Olsen Frøseeie (31)
169 Anne Halvorsdater (26)
170 Anton (7)
171 Hans (5)
172 Johanne (2)
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Lislcat
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Posted - 13/10/2007 : 19:49:56
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Jan Peter,
Thanks! I thought the same thing, but he was 72 when he died in 1858 and she would of only been 47. He may not have wanted to make the trip at that age and she didn't want to be left there alone, after he died. I haven't seen that she remarried after arriving in Wisconsin.
Very interesting!
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Lislcat
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Posted - 13/10/2007 : 20:00:18
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I haven't found the ship that they came over on, but it probably arrived in Quebec, which makes it harder to find them. There are a few different ships listed on this site that arrived at the end of June 1857, but no ship's lists.
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Farm name "engum"
