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Lester Hanson
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 Posted - 11/12/2007 : 18:02:40
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This is pure speculation, but Walter Evju could be Aagot's son born after she became a widow. Since there seems to be some mysteries in this family.
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Shariwa
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Posted - 11/12/2007 : 18:22:24
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I just looked at the ccensus last night and it left my heart racing!!! I couldn't believe what I was looking at. Aagot obviously is NOT Walter's mom. She is listed with a different last name. They deliberately added Evju to the listing for Walter, which tells me that she was NOT his Mom.
I noticed the place of birth for parents as well. I'm thinking that my GDad was left with his Gparents because something happened to his parents.
I suppose the only way to know what really happened is to do a little research. Maybe I can find a newspaper article or something, who knows.
I just thought of something...... the adoption theory is starting to sound valid. I've discounted it til now, but what if........? That would really put an end to my search! I hope that's NOT the case!! It would be very frustrating.
Anyway, I'm going to make my way downtown within the next few days to the LDS church. I hope I can find birth and death records.
I wonder if ship records would show if a woman was pregnant during travel? Maybe my GDad's Mom had Walter here in the US, but was conceived in Norway and something happened........ UGH!! I might be reaching now. |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 11/12/2007 : 19:02:21
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My theory is still that John & Marie Evju are Walters natural maternal G.parents! He might be adopted by them, but I'm quite positive Walter is related to John & Marie "by blood", and not a child they just adopted from someone, somewhere...
Maybe he is born out of wedlock, and that his single mum could not support him...? Walter's mother must be one of John & Marie Evju's daughter's, but which one? 
Aagot Edvarda Evju is listed as Hansen in the census, and she is a widow. One "Mr. Hansen" was obviously her husband...?
Your task now would be to find Walter's birth record! He is born in Massachusetts, most likely in Boston...?
Jan Peter
ps: Not that this is the case here, but there are a lot of family secrets that people wanted to stay as a secret... imagine incest for example.
I remember I read a very sad story about a genealogist here in Norway, who was tracing his father I believe it was... his mum never told him about his father.
He ended up in some archives in Oslo, and found the papers. It turned out that his mum had been raped by 20 German soldiers... |
Edited by - jwiborg on 11/12/2007 19:35:19 |
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Lislcat
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Posted - 11/12/2007 : 20:10:28
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Hi All,
Sorry this took so long, but Ancestry did an awful time with their name in the 1920 census. There name is spelled Eveju on the census itself.
There are two daughters listed Sigrid and Gulberg.
1920 U.S. Census for Boston (Rosbury District), Suffolk, MA
Eveju, John , head, 51 yrs, immigrated 1914, born Norway, hotel clerk
Eveju, Maria, wife, 53 yrs. imm. 1914, b Norway
Hanson, Eigot, daughter 27 yrs. imm. 1914, born Norway
Hanson, Alfred, son-in-law, 22 yrs. , imm 1914, b Norway, Soldier (reason for his death ?)
The rest they have listed as Hanson also, but there is a line through one of them, so I think they realized they made a mistake.
Sigrid, daughter, 26 yrs., imm 1914 , b. Norway
Bjarne, son, 19 yrs., imm 1914, b Norway, sailor - deep water
Erling, son, 17, imm 1914, b. Norway, mechanic
Gulberg, daughter, 14, imm 1914, b. Norway
I hope this helps!
Wanda
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jwiborg
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Posted - 11/12/2007 : 20:20:43
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Very good finding, Wanda!
Alfred Hanson is most likely George's father, and could have died in WWI. But where is George?
Walter R. Evju. born: April 14, 1924. In Rosbury District, Boston, Suffolk, MA..?
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Lislcat
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Posted - 11/12/2007 : 20:35:40
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Hi All,
I found them on the SS Cymric arriving in Boston from Liverpool on May 19, 1914.
They did a good job with their names.
Evju, Erling 12
Bjarne, 14
Sverre (?) male, 17
Sigrid Mathilde, 19
John Sevrin, 46
Thale Marie, 47
Gulborg, 10
Last residence is listed as Christania (Oslo)
They list an Greta Johansson, Stockholm 12, Christania
The children list her as their Aunt and John lists her as a sister-in-law.
John and Sverre are listed as a laborers, Marie a housewife and Sigrid a servant.
I'm starting to think that Walter's mother is Sigrid.
Good luck!
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Shariwa
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Posted - 11/12/2007 : 21:17:56
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Could THAT be my family's BIG secret?! Sigrid had a child by?? and he was married maybe.
When the family (his wife ) found out, all hell broke loose and they decided to raise the child (Walter) as hers! Am I making this up?! OMG!!! What if.....?
But why would it be such a big deal?! Am I just such a 20th Century girl that it doesn't seem like such a big deal to me?
So that means We, my family, are related to someone else, but are still Evju's.
I know a man can continue to bear children late in his life, but a woman can't.
Maybe Walter's GDad is his biological Father afterall!!
NOW ,THERE"S a family secret!! LOL |
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Edited by - Shariwa on 11/12/2007 21:20:00 |
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Lislcat
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Posted - 11/12/2007 : 21:21:27
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Shari,
I would definitely apply for Walter's birth certificate. Now you have the names of possible mother's, so you could list them, if necessary. You should't need that, since you have his birth date, but they do ask for mother and father on the form. Once you have that, I would get his mother's death certificate. Fill all the gaps, while you continue with your search in Norway. Also, I always feel that having the cause of death for someone in your direct line is always a good thing.
Your family was very patriatic, since not only did Walter's uncle serve in WWI, both Walter and Ellen served in the military. I saw that they are buried in Mass National Cemetery near Cape Cod. Of course, his mother wouldn't be buried there, but she is probably buried in a cemetery near where they lived, possibly one affiliated with a Norwegian Lutheran Church.
I'll look and see if I can find a list of cemeteries. I didn't see transcription lists for many of them in that area, but then I was focused mainly on Middlesex and not Suffolk County.
If it is Sigrid that is Walter's mother, since she was listed as a servant in the 1920 census, there is a very good possibility that she met someone through work, her employer, employer's son, etc..., who wouldn't have been able to marry her. Most of my relatives that got married either in Norway or when they first got to America, had a child first and then got married. It was very common.
Good luck! Wanda
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Lislcat
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Posted - 11/12/2007 : 21:26:18
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Shari,
I wouldn't jump to that presumption about his grandfather. If my daughter died after having a son and the child's father wanted nothing to do with raising the child, then of course, my husband and I would raise our grandson. Also, if they claimed the child as theirs, there would be a lot less questions asked.
The only way you may possibly find out, is Walter's birth certificate or possibly his baptismal record.
Good luck, Wanda |
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Shariwa
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Posted - 11/12/2007 : 21:34:08
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Something just jumped out at me.
Sigrid is listed as a servant for my family? MY family had a servant?!
There's something wrong with that! My family is soooooo dirt poor!!
I mean we have NOTHING!! My GParents, even my GGMa was dirt poor when I met her.
So what would my family be doing with a servant?! This makes no sense to me.
the only my GParents were good at was making was babies. They had 10 all together. 6 boys, 4 girls.
My Mom had 5 altogether and my Aunt Robin had 7? I think.
Uncle Jimmy had 3 or 4, Uncle Marc had 2, Uncle Bobby had 2 or 3.............
Anyway, the point is my family is VERY good at procreating, NOT making enough money to support a servant!! |
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Lislcat
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Posted - 11/12/2007 : 21:40:54
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Shari,
She was a servant, not for your family necessarily, although it could just mean that she worked at home. More than likely, she worked at someone elses home as a servant or cleaning woman.
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Shariwa
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Posted - 11/12/2007 : 21:41:52
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You are right Wanda. I need to find his birth certificate.
My mind is going a mile a minute!! All these questions...... it's enough to make a person think crazy things!
I'm going to take a break from this for a day or two. I will go down to the LDS Church when I have the time and see what I can dig up.
Thank you everyone!! Thank you for all the help!!
Happy Holiday to all!! |
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Lester Hanson
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Posted - 18/12/2007 : 01:25:05
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Shariwa,
I believe I found Walter's wife Ellen in the 1930 Census for Bridgeport, Fairfield County, Conn.
French, Ernest, Head of household, age 28, married when 18.
" ??(looks like Pearl E), Wife, age age 27, married when 16
" Edna M. Daughter, age 9 8/12
" Ernest J. Son, age 7 10/12.
" Elinor M. Daughter, age 5 5/12
" Leroy A. Son, age 2 ??/12
Are these names familiar?
Les
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Shariwa
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Posted - 18/12/2007 : 02:40:12
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Hi Lestor,
No That is not my family.
My Grandmother's name is Ellen not Elinor.
However, they may be related because one of my uncles name, Walter and Ellen's son, is Ernest. We call him Ernie.
Now Leroy sounds familiar. So does Edna. Now that I think of it. I think you might be right, I believe they are my Gma's brothers and sisters.
I don't know. I really don't want to think about this right now. I appreciate everyone's help, but I'm not doing good right now and can't think about this right now. It's too much for me to handle at this time. |
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emevju
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Posted - 20/02/2008 : 05:35:13
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Hi, My name is Ellen. I am the Grandaughter of Walter Evju and Ellen Evju.
I was born to Evelyn Yoder sister to Sandr, Robin, Bobby, Jimmy, Mark, Erine, and walter Evju.
I have been looking to find more about my family tree an the history of my family.
I have Diabetes and want to know is anyone else in my family has it besides me.
if you have any information please let me know.
thank You
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Ellen M Evju |
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Need info about Evju travelling to America ?1912?
