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waukegan
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 Posted - 11/03/2008 : 22:30:45
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Ya-hoo. A connect.
However, Iam a little bit confused on it. I don't understand many of the words in the references you have given. Will try to translate for myself. But would be most appreciative of any translates!
In the 1875, was this a census showing him living with his parents? And later, were those children below his name, Hopkins? I don't see where the wife is...but I lack in seeing much
I do apologize for my lack of getting it!
Kind Regards to you both!!
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 12/03/2008 : 12:22:23
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Maybe I should offer you a solution to use with your own translation work.
1900 census:
Ludv. Chr. Larsen hf = housefather lives at Hansteens Gade 1 (neighbor to where the US Embasy is today) with his wife Alma Elisabeth Larsen hm = housemother.
Ludvigs profession is redaktør = editor and he was born in Throndhjem (Trondheim) (18)66. Ludvig and Alma had two daughters Astrid Johanne born 1897 and Gudrun born 1898. (I have tried to find their baptismal records but have had no success)
1865 census:
Ludvig Christian lives with his parents snedker = carpenter at the Throndhjem Støren Jernbane = Railroad Lars Larsen and Alette Marie Larsen at Vollafaldet (not far from the Trondheim cathedral). He is obviously their first child and his siblings are Olga Mathilde, Laura Amalie, Josefine Helene and Berger Cornelius. |
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Edited by - eibache on 12/03/2008 13:21:14 |
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waukegan
Junior member
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Posted - 12/03/2008 : 18:45:27
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Thanks, that helps alot. More I work with it, it becomes easier! (do miss some points of interest however)! So this translate is most beneficial.
Finding Ludvig's children and their children is my task at hand. Discouraged when even you don't find them. Although they must be in some records, right.
And Petra. Is she a lost women? Guess things were different then, so documentation is less.
On a level of interest...my mother (89) is sincerely enjoying the information you've found sofar. Many questions, no answers til late. Her father (Christian Larsen b.1896), died when she was only 16 in an iced road car accident in Illinois. He was 39 years old at that time. She's known very little (next to nothing) about her family in Norway.
Many thanks!!
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 12/03/2008 : 20:35:50
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Ludvig Kristian was born May 1 1866 and baptized June 3, see #47
His mother Alette Marie Jørgensdatter was born June 15 1844 and baptized July 28, see #19
(she should actually have been Alette Marie Olesdatter or Jørgensen)
His father is most likely #60
Lars Larsen born March 17 1835 and baptized April 19 (Lars Larsen is such a common name - even Ludvigs grand father was a Lars Larsen then!)
Ludvigs parents were married Jan 8 1865, see #2
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eibache
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Posted - 12/03/2008 : 22:47:41
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I have found Ludvig Christians marriage record, his marriage with Alma Elisabeth Bjørn was May 12 1896, see #51
this was only 2 1/2 month before Christian was born.
The first daughter of Ludvig Christian and Alma Elisabeth Astrid Johanne was born Febr 10 1897, i.e. 6 1/2 month after Christian was born.See #000
From the baptismal record for their second daughter, Gudrun we can read that ludvig was editor of Ørebladet, see #000
Ørebladet was a conservative daily newspaper established in 1891 by a business man Konow. |
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waukegan
Junior member
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Posted - 13/03/2008 : 05:22:04
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This is GREAT stuff. Information that is! Many thanks for your research (es) Eibache! Kinda surprised at the time frame of Ludvig's marriage, and subsequent first daughter's birth.  Whew...busy fella.
Do we show any death records? My mother was wondering about when her grandparents died...and where they were buried.
Any way to locate the Orebladet newspaper from that time? Can we hope to find some living relatives
Any word on Petra Hansen I'm so excited and happy with what you're already been able to locate!!!
Best Regards and most grateful to you!
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/03/2008 : 07:33:26
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Search for Ørebladet with Google and you will get 48 hits - sorry they are all in Norwegian and Swedish. The paper was baught by another paper "Tidens Tegn" in 1920.
In order to find death records in Oslo you would have to know where the person was living - for Ludvig Christian this is a ?
In order to find living relatives from the last name Larsen you would have to know other details - for Ludvigs daughters this is ? - may be he had more children, again you would have to know where the family was living after 1900. |
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eibache
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Posted - 13/03/2008 : 07:55:43
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If you want to see where Ludvigs family lived in 1900 use this map www.1881.no/Map
write Hansteens gate 1 in the Søk (search) line, then velg (choose) Hansteens gate, Oslo, Oslo and click on Skråfoto and you should see the building (the triangular one is the US embassy) |
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waukegan
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Posted - 13/03/2008 : 17:17:37
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Yes, details need to be known. Have you checked for what we do know i.e. residence at that time?
Wish I spoke or read Norwegian!! Did google that newspaper, came up with less than your report.
I have a postcard in Norwegian that was kept from my gf. belongings. Not postally used, so that's confusing! Fredrikstad on the front. Doubt it has any significance to my search. Have photographed it, could send it to you for translate? Probably something from his older sister (s), while in America. Although, signature not his sisters...
Kind Regards,
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eibache
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Posted - 13/03/2008 : 18:05:36
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Best way to send the postcard I guess would be to scan it into a word document and send it by e-mail - if I can read the handwriting I'll translate it for you.
Search for children from Hansteens gate has not been succesful so far.
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Edited by - eibache on 13/03/2008 21:30:49 |
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waukegan
Junior member
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Posted - 14/03/2008 : 16:12:12
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Thanking you for the translation of the p.c. eibache! No help however in our investigation. Although a bit of history finally solved.
Appreciate all your help
Kind regards,
KAnnie |
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waukegan
Junior member
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Posted - 17/03/2008 : 05:52:19
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Is there any further information you can offer me and my family concerning my gr.g.f. Ludvig, or my gr.g.m. Petra? Finding Petra's records? Or Ludvig's decendants?
Any help in searching the Tiden's Tegn newspaper for hints on Ludvig?
Most appreciative of your expertise on these matters. Knowledge of the Norwegian language is one great asset!
Kind regards,
KAnnie |
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waukegan
Junior member
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Posted - 27/03/2008 : 00:59:37
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Is it true that the next census concerning Ludvig and or his family (1910) won't be available until Jan. 1st, 2011? I'd read where a privacy law was in effect for 100 years in Norway.
The paper he worked for in Oslo might have some directions of his life, and or family
Kind Regards,
KAnnie |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 27/03/2008 : 07:25:55
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I don't know the detailed law here, but census is not taken every ten years in Norway.
By the way I have the marriage record for Ludvigs grandparents, see #4
Lars Larsen married Kari Olsdatter March 23 1835. He was 25 years old, she was 32.
His father was Lars Jonsen and her father was Ole Olsen.
In the 1801 census you will find Lars Jonsen and his wife Ingbor Estensdatter and even Lars Jonsens parents Jon larsen and Beret Larsdatter. It also shows that Lars Jonsen was a twin. See
here
The parents of Ludvigs mother Alette Marie Jørgensdatter, i.e. Ludvigs grandparents were Ole Jørgensen and Maren Anna Paasche. They were married Aug 4 1839, Ole was a widower 53 years old and Maren Anna was 23 years. See #8
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Family of Ludvig Larsen, Petra Hansen, Bilet
