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Kåarto
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 Posted - 30/04/2008 : 00:13:52
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We shall work it out, I think you had it right.
Ole Tostensen born on Livland 1726 and Tosten Livlands "Søn Kaldet Ole "son named Ole was the same person.
Ødeberg Vestre 1801, Tosten Olsen age 40 was son of Ole Tostensen born 1726.
Sønnev Olsdatter (b.on Ørstein 1771), she was Tosten Olsen´s (b. on Ørstein 1761) now on Vestre Ødeberg, younger sister married to Hellich Evensen on Solom in 1801.
People changed last names depending on which farm they lived on, so it can be very confusing, espasially when its arranged on a PC screen jumping from page to page.
Tomorrow I will try to put in the 1900 censuses, exiting records.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 30/04/2008 : 13:24:36
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The 7 Helliksendrs, start with nr 1, Ambjør born 1782 married to Gullik Eivindsen Daaseth had 8 children.
- Eivind Gulliksen 1811-88 married 1856 to Jørand Juelsdatter Delesmyr.
Daaset 91a 1865, Eivind and Jørand with 3 children, Gullik, Anne and Ambjør. Jøran is a young female servant and Hellik Helliksen as "inderst" likley a relative, lodger.
- Hellik Gulliksen 1814-85 married 1860 to Maret Klemetsdatter Juveli,they settled down on Kjølberg, two children in 1865.
- Ole Gulliksen 1817-19
- Maret Gulliksdatter 1820-92, unmarried.
- Gullik Gulliksen born 1824 emigrated 1846 (mentioened earler). He married before 1880 to a girl from Flesberg , Kristoffersdatter (daughter to Kristoffer Kristoffersen from Søndre Lande). They settled down in Leland, Illinois and got one son born about 1880. Gullik died in 1896.
- Ole Gulliksen born 1826 emigrated 1846 in company with Gullik and married about 1849 to Anne Andresdatter born in Eiker parish in Buskerud. She died and Ole married 2. time 1853 to Susanne Halvorsdatter Brenna born in Hovin in Tinn parish in Telemark. They settled down in La Salle, Illinois and got nine children. Ole died in 1906.
- Juel Gulliksen born 1831 emigrated to USA in 1854, Right side #3. Juel settled down in Filmore County, Minnesota, he died in 1904, likley unmarried.
- Torstein Gulliksen1834-1904 married 1861 to Beret Juelsdatter Delesmyr d. 1925.
Daaset 91b 1865, Torsten Gulliksen and Beret Juulsdr with 3 children, Gullik, Ambjør and Anne.
Their daughter Anne age 1 married in 1897 to Ole Olsen Vestre Øiberg. Anne died 1945 and their daughter Berit born 1898 on Øiberg inherit Daaset after her grandparents about 1925, but she didn´t stay permanent on Daaset. She sold Daaset in 1950.
Daaset 1900, Torsten and Beret with 3 children born after 1865, all unmarried
Øiberg Vestre 1900. Berit Olsdatter born 1898, she inherit Daaset in 1925, with her parents Anne Torstensdr. and Ole Olsen Øiberg and her brother Gullik born 1900.
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 30/04/2008 : 14:55:05
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Thank-you so much!
That was easy for me to make out and keep straight! |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 30/04/2008 : 20:22:19
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Great,
this next is a sad story.
Nr 2 Jøran Helliksdatter born 1794 married to Levord Helliksen Solom and Fekjan. They got one daughter Ingeborg Levordsdatter.
She married Levord Knutsen Geitnes and their only son Levord born 1853 died 11 years old. Ingeborg became sick and quarrelsome and Levord and Ingeborg split up and he emigrated to USA in 1872 where he baught a farm. In 1884 he owned a house in Edgerton, Wisc. Levor died before 1908, but he had a son which came to Flesberg where he tried to buy Fekjan which he claimed was his inherit.
He failed in doing that and returned to USA wher he died in a accident in a Mill.
Nr 3, Maret Helliksdatter born 1796 married Sjul Kittelsen Linaas, one daughter Sønnev Sjursdatter born August 2. 1829 #36 married to Levor Helliksen, they got four children, Hellik, Kittel, Sjul and Maret. Maret Evensdr age 17 (born 1849) is her illegitimate daughter to Even Gulliksen Sedalen. Maret Helliksdatter age 70 as "hendes Moder and Føderaadskon" her mother and former owner of Dokken, her husband Sjul lived on Linaas
Maret Evensdr. born 1849 emigrated to USA in 1868 as Maret Evensdatter Linaas, right side #13
Sønnev Sjulsdatter died 1876, 6 years earlier, in 1869, her two oldest sons, Hellik born 1854 and Kittil born 1855 emigrated to USA, age 15 and 13,5, likely in company with Jøran Gulliksdatter Vatnebryn age 25. Kittil Ribberud had promised to take care of the children, both are reg. as #69
Widower Levor Helliksen Dokken age 71 sold Dokken and emigrated to USA with his two remaining children, Maret and Sjul in 1881 #8-9-10. Levor was going to Omaha and both children to Laramie.
A funny story taken place on Dokken:
Sønnev and Levor both enjoyed to make jokes and having fun.
Taylor Gudbrand Haugen visited Dokken, only Levor was at home. He hang the Pot in the fireplace to make porridge. Sitting and eating Sønnev arrived and asked "Levor, have you remembered to clean the Pot, I used it tonight?" Levor turned against her licking on the spoon and answered, knew she was joking " No, I thought it was some leftovers from Yesterday, so I just filled up with milk and flour" .
Wonder how Gudbrand Haugen reacted?
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 01/05/2008 : 02:40:30
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Thanks Kåre!
This is much easier to follow. I don't feel like such a failing student! Chuckle |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 01/05/2008 : 11:36:35
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Thats great.
Most of this information is from "Flesberg Bygdebok" 5 volumes, author Sigurd Vinger.
Some more info from Solom and Ingeborg Levorsdatter. It was wellknown a lot of silver objects was kept on Solom. It was never found when Ingebjørg died.
Likely the "Solomsilver" are still kept in Ingebjørgs secret Hiding-place on Solem.
Two cupboarde and a bed, decorated with Rosemaling in 1791 from Solom are kept in Drammen museum
Ingeborg Levorsdatter, widow, on Søndre Solem in 1900 as fl "flerfødning", close related to Knud or Jøran. Her income was coming from her capital.
Sønnev Levorsdatter Solem died Jan. 2.1908 on Solem, born 1828 on Fekjan. Cause of death: Epilepsy, #1
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Sønnev Helliksdatter married to Ole Gulliksen Søndre Førli. Sønnev died Feb. 23. 1848:
Gaardsmand Ole Gulliksen Førlies hustru Sønnev Helliksdatter 50 Førli i Do (the same as abowe) Flesberg.
Farmer Ole Gulliksen Førlies wife Sønnev Helliksdatter ade 50 Førli in Flesberg #10.
Ole Helliksen not found later.
Nr 5
Gunbjør Helliksdatter b. 1802 married to Christopher Helliksen Førli em. 1842, the main characters in this topic.
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 05/05/2008 : 09:41:50
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I wonder How would Forlie Farm have gotten it's name?
And I wonder how Christopher would have gotten the money to buy Forlie farm at such a young age?
Thanks, Jodie
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Kåarto
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Posted - 05/05/2008 : 11:59:31
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It was his father Hellik who helped him with the money. Hellik baught Søndre Førli in 1792 for 623 Riksdaler and sold the farm about 1794 for 1060 Riksdaler and baught Mellom (Central) Bergseid in Rollag parish north of Flesberg and settled down there.
After about 10 years in Rollag Hellik returned to Flesberg and helped his young son Christopher, under age, to raise 1340 Riksdaler (a large sum of money) in 1807 and to run the farm.
Førli: Not sure about the meaning of the name, Li means hillside. Need some time to find out what Før is coming from.
I have still 2 sisters (Helikdrs) to bring up for you.
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eibache
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Posted - 05/05/2008 : 19:23:52
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Most of the time Rygh is a good help, in the case of Førli - Førle
Føerlj nordre, nedre og søndre
1723. Forklares i Bd. I S. 240 som identisk med Fyrileif (nu Ferlef) i
Bohuslen og Fyrileiv i Aamotsdal (Telem.). Jfr. det forsvundne Furuleif
i Lundeherred. Første Led efter O. R. enten Præpos. fyrir eller fyri n.
"Sted, bevoxet med Furutrær"; men hvorledes leif, der ellers i Sammen-
sætninger har Betydningen "efterladt Eiendom" (se Fritzners Ordb.), i sidste
Tilfælde skal forstaaes, er uklart. |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 05/05/2008 : 23:50:06
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Not many Pines left on Førli today Einar, I entered this Map. Write Førle Flesberg, press "Søk" and Førle (Gårdsbruk) Fleberg, press "velg" and watch Førli (chose between kart/map or foto/phota and zoom in.
Nr 6
Anne Heliksdatter born 1804, left hand 2. from top.
Dom: Exaudi, dn 13th Maj: Flesberg, døbt Hellik Solems Datter Anne.
4. Sunday after Whitsun, Mai 13, in Flesberg (church) Hellik Solems daughter Bap. Anne
Anne Helliksdatter Solem married Gudbrand Olsen Aslefet and Nordre Førli in 1827 #9
They got following children:
- Maret b/d 1828
- Sønnev 1823-93 married 1857 to Kittil Knudsen Bakke /Teigen
- Ole b.d.1833
- Maret 1834-1910 married 1864 to Torstein Klemetsen Juveli and Nedre (Lower) Teigen
- Anne 1837-44
Flesberg 1865: Gudbrand Olsen died 1840, Anne Helliksdatter, widow and "Føderaadskone" on Teigen, her daughter Maret b. 1834 and TorsteIn Clemetsen born 1840 takes over the farm, one daughter Anne age 1.
Maret and TorsteIn also got a son Gudbrand born 1869, he takes over Teigen in 1896.
Maret Gudbrandsdatter Teigen/Aslefet was born "Døvstum" Deaf-mute and was because of that "stupid" as a child, but her confirmation record for 15, Sunday after Trinitates (Sept. 16) 1855 last column, its a commet tells that Maret had recieved teaching/education "paa Døveinstituttet i Christiania" , a institute for deaf-mutes in Christiania /Oslo and her capasity was exellent "udmerkede evner" and "rosverdig vandel" certificate of god conduct, #1
Gudbrand Torsteinsen Teigen born 1869 married in 1893 to Torgunn Torgjeirsdatter Buserud and takes over Teigen as mentioned, the family on Teigen in 1900, two children, Torstein and Jørand.
Torstein Klemetsen Teigen bor on Juveli died August 14. 1899 #7
Maret Gudbrandsdatter on Buin in 1900 #Svigerinde" SIL to widower Kittil Knudsen, Sønnev, "ug" unmarried, is Kittils daughter and Knud is her son.
Maret Gudbrandsdatter died on Haugen Sept. 22. 1910 of heart attac, down page #6
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 14/05/2008 : 05:21:57
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Hi Kåre
Can you tell me if all of these Maret Gudbrandsdatter's are the same person?
I have made copies of all you have helped me with for my sources.
Maret Gudbrandsdatter on Buin in 1900 #Svigerinde" SIL to widower Kittil Knudsen, Sønnev, "ug" unmarried, is Kittils daughter and Knud is her son.
Who is Kittil Knudsen to her?
Thanks, Jodie
There was one more I had a question on but I'm so tired right now. I will have to look later.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 14/05/2008 : 13:14:19
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Hi Jodie,
Widow Maret Gudbransdatter born July 25.1834 on Aslefet, right hand #23 (married to Torstein Klemtsen), Sister in law in the1900 census to Kittil Knudsen on Buin was daughter to nr 6) Anne Helliksdatter Solum born 1804 and Gudbrand Olsen Aslefet and Nordre (Northern) Førli.
Maret´s sister Sønnev Gudbrandsdatter born on Aslefet June 14.1829. Parents Gudbrand Olsen Aslefet and Anne Helliksdatter, right hand #29
Sønnev Gudbrandsdatter and Kittil Knudsen settled down or rented Buin, Sønnev died 1893 and Maret Gudbrandsdatter also settled down on Buin (don´t know when), she was "Inderst forsørges af sin Svoger", she was a renter and was supported by her Brother in Law Kittil Knudsen born 1836 "Skogsarbeider" Lumber man, so he didn´t cultivate the farm.
They were all temporary living on farm Valders in Flesberg, all as "inderst" which means they rented Buin but were also related to the owner (no names on the owner of Buin).
The people on Teigen in the 1900 census abowe, their son Torstein born 1894 married Jøran and their son runs Teigen in 1990 (Info. from Flesberg Bygdebok from 1990).
I can send you the names, but not in this forum, because of the protection of privat information of living people.
Some more information about nr 6) Anne Helliksdatter Solem born 1804.
Christopher Førli wrote from USA in the 1882 letter that he often remembered his dear aunt Anne (Heliksdatter) Teigen .
She must have been quite a woman. She runs the farm from 1840-1860 when her husband Gudbrand Olsen Aslefet died.
In the wintertime she was convening coal with horse and sleigh, likely or perhaps it was charcoal used in the smelting stoves to the Silver mine company in Kongsberg town, a distanse of about 11 Miles one way and she always had "Bundingen" The knitting with her, so she didn´t waste the time.
Her storage of food "Stabbur" also burned down but she rebuilds it.
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Ingebjørg Helliksdatter Solem born 1810 died Dec. 22.1820 and was buried Dec. 28, right hand #7
An old photo of Daaset before it became a museum
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 14/05/2008 : 19:59:18
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Hopkins
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Posted - 16/05/2008 : 00:43:19
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There is another person asking the RootsWeb Norway-List about this SAME family. This poster is calling themselves Dave Johnson.
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/NORWAY/2008-05/1210132617
Isn't it very interesting that TWO of your recent families that you've asked for assistance with are also among the current queries posted to another forum??
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researching Christopher Hellicksen Førlie
