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MAJA520S
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 Posted - 06/05/2008 : 15:17:00
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Wow! The link on Beaver Creek was a nice article. Good find!
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 06/05/2008 : 22:52:55
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Sometimes it´s Bingo, perhaps a reunion after 170 years for the Sondresen´s from Bakka in Tinn.
I have a question out of this topic for all viewers, if you don´t mind, since Tinn is mentioned.
Gro Olsdatter Gryte born July 7. 1826 in Tinn emigrated 1855 to USA. Gro married Ole Johnsen (Johannesen) Deilda/ Hjartsjø b. Mai. 30. 1816 in Hjartdal in Telemark after he became a widower in 1862. They both died in 1866.
Someone in USA has been seeking these persons for some time.
Do you want more records from Tinn? I can take lookups in "Tinnsoga" to confirm the LDS records, and perhaps bring up some new names.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 07/05/2008 12:24:24 |
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 07/05/2008 : 05:07:28
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Sure we can see what comes up.
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MAJA520S
Medium member
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114 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 01:56:14
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If an obit here states they were born in Tyn, Norway. Would that be Tinn? The same as the Sanderson's?
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Kåarto
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Posted - 08/05/2008 : 07:28:21
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Tyn sounds like Tinn.
The only simulare to Tyn to my knowledge is Lake Tyin in the western, central part of Oppland county at the border of Sogn og Fjordane.
It would hardly be shorten: Tyn for Tynset, a parish and municipality in Hedmark county.
We also two farms named Tinne and Tinnes in Hitterdal parish (Heddal) in Telemark county south of Tinn parish
The letter i in Tinn is pronounced like the short i in tit (peak)
My guess so fare, Tyn is Tinn.
Do you have any names?
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 08/05/2008 : 15:50:05
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The name Baker I asked about earlier,
Ole C Baker born: 14 Apr 1846 his obit states born in Tyn Norway. He came to America in 1850 with his parents at abt age 4. He came with 3 sisters and 1 brother. One sister here in the US (His Obit) states her name was Julia.
Ole died in 1924 and she was the only survivor mentioned.
His obit states that he was left an Orphan when he was 8 years old and at 9 years old he was left to make it in the world on his own. I found him in a 1860 US Census working as a farm hand on a farm. He ended up being a very successful farmer in the area.
Could be the other siblings died before he did or they all left the area and never had more contact with each other.
I have been trying to find a ship but haven't had any luck yet. But with the way they change names!!! Who knows?
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Kåarto
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Posted - 08/05/2008 : 18:14:24
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I have one in Tinn, he could match almost perfect, he was born April 12. 1846 and christened April 19. 1846. Ole K. Bakka
Ole K could be Ole C. Could Bakka be Baker?
Worth a try.
Ole Kittilsen Bakka: Parents Kittil Ols and Gro Herbjørnsdatter Bakka #9
They emigrated Mai 1. 1850:
Kittil and Gro Bakka, Ole age 4 and Herbjørn age 2, #13
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Edited by - Kåarto on 08/05/2008 18:23:35 |
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 09/05/2008 : 04:02:03
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Yes Kare, It does look like it could match. In this case maybe they kept the farm name insteard of the father's name. But I wonder what happened to the other children? Maybe I can find them on a ships list. What would Herbjørn be in America? Herb? IIs the 2 year old male?
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 09/05/2008 : 05:57:55
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I could only find one other Baker in our census. I found a Peter O Baker born Jun 1858 62 years old that immigrated in 1850.
I wonder if this could be one of his brothers?
There are 2 common names with both Baker's
Peter's son is Orrin M.
Ole C. Baker's son is Newton Orrin
I couldn't find them on a ships list
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Kåarto
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Posted - 09/05/2008 : 07:53:52
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Kittil Olsen Bakka and Gro Herbjørnsdatter Høyseth (Hovin sub parish) married Feb. 22. 1846 and Herbjørn was born June 2. 1848 so they only had two sons when the emigrated in 1850.
Ole as oldest son was named after his fathers father Ole Knudsen Bakka and and Herbjørn after his mothers father Herbjørn Olsen Høiseth (traditional naming in Norway).
If they got any daughters and kept up the traditions (could they have born in USA?) they would have been named after they grandmothers.
Hard to say what Herbjørn could be in USA, some Amerkanized the name 100%, but most kept the initials.
It looks like Kittils mother was Helga/Helge.
Gros mother not found. Gro Herbjørndatter was half a year older than Kittil (born 1817) when she married him, but 4 years younger when she emigrated according to the church records.
Perhaps Hovin- or Tinn soga will tell?
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 14/05/2008 : 20:32:37
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Hi Kåre
I'm getting all of the records and info enetered into the family file. I have a question on
Hølje Sondresen was from Bakka, Aslaug Knudsdatter was from Lofthuus when she married, they married in Atrå church June 30. 1826.
Bachelor Hølje Sondresen Bakka age 28 and maid Aslaug Knudsdatter Lofthuus age 22.
Best men: Gjermund Sondresen Bakka and Halvor Knudsen Daalen #7
The year on #7 seems to be 1824. Were they married in 1824 or 1826?
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Kåarto
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Posted - 14/05/2008 : 21:15:52
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Hi Jodi,
you are right, 1826 was a wrongspelling, sorry.
They married June 30.1824.
Lofthuus means a house with rooms in the first floor, likely after an expansion of the building.
Dif.spellings for Lofthuus in Atrå/Tinn
Here is Bakka mentioned in a old document from March 24.1487.
Thord Gunleiksen certify that his parents exchanged the farms Gjerder and Rud in Flesberg parish and a part "8 løbsland" in Bakka in Tinn with Ketil Arnesen.
The original of this documenet is kept in Norske Riksarkiv, the seals are missing.
Daalen/Dalen means Valley, Bakka means Slope.
I still have some information from Tinnsoga to investigate in Statsarkivet, need some time.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 14/05/2008 22:15:49 |
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 14/05/2008 : 22:31:31
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Hi Kåre
You posted
Sondre Gjermundsen and Margit Østensdatter on Bakka in 1801, 7 children. Sondre was born about 1753 (no records available) and Margis was born about 1758. There were two subfarms under Bakka.
Why do you think they didn't take the Sondreson last name? and are all named Gjermundsen?
Thanks, Jodie
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Kåarto
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Posted - 14/05/2008 : 23:11:41
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You are very observant, I didn´t notice that in the 1801 census for Bakka, it was "to obvious" to me.
It seems like a wronspelling from the priest or his assistant.
Sondre Gjermundsens children should have been Sondresen or Sondresdatter for last name.
It would have been Gjermundsen in USA (as immigrants), the same last name as the father Sondre Gjermundsen, Wasn´t that normally?
Thats what happend in USA when Hølje Sondersen and his family emigrated in 1843, all the children was christened Høljesen as last name but changed to the fathers last name in USA, Sondresen/Sanderson.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 14/05/2008 : 23:54:17
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Sondre Gjemundsens birth record from about 1754 dont exist, but we have his confirmation record from Mai. 9.1771 in Artå church. Sondre Gjermundsen Backen 18 aar , that should be born about 1755, 3. column top #8
We also have his father Gjermunds death record.
Gjermund Bakka was buried in Atrå on Nov. 20. 1761, age 44, right hand top #42
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Edited by - Kåarto on 15/05/2008 00:22:18 |
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researching Austin Sanderson in Bukka Tin Norway
