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jilliankloster
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USA
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Posted - 30/07/2008 :  18:42:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hopkins I found Jon Olavson he was born 1767 Bjotveit, Kinsarvik, Hordaland, Nor
Jon's wife is Ingebjorg Sjursdtr abt 1770 Makestad, , Hordaland, Norway

his father is Olav Ingjeldson born 1722 Ryngoye, Kinsarvik, Hordaland, Nor he died in 1796 Bjotveit, Kinsarvik, Hordaland, Nor

his mother is Ingegjerd Sivertsdtr born 1736 Tveit, Kinsarvik, Hordaland, Nor died 1796 in Bjotveit, Kinsarvik, Hordaland, Nor

they were married abt 1747 Kinsarvik, Hordaland, Norway




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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 30/07/2008 :  21:45:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Now that you seems to have all the dates you can try to search in these scanned church books from Vang parish in Oppland county and check for yourself, it´s very exiting.

How to find Roland Rolandsen born 1803, first enter this records for Vang
then enter Vang 1796-1808 and then the birth and baptism records for 1803 and page one for January appear, then browse threw the pages until August and Roland appear.

Try the same for the parents etc.
Born about means the author didnt find the person, could be born in another parish or just forgotten.

If you want to share a record in this forum click on Image information, top page, and change from None to On top where the parmanent pagelink appear.

Kåre


Edited by - Kåarto on 30/07/2008 22:22:03
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Hopkins
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Posted - 30/07/2008 :  22:01:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You'll find that the person you found listed as "Olav Ingjeldson" was more often known as Ola Engellson who was born on Ringøy, Kinsarvik, Hordaland. Kinsarvik was the area immediately to the south and east of Granvin just on the other side of that section of the Hardanger fjord. Ola/Olav was a younger brother to my ancestor previously mentioned.

So that link to Ringøy is as I expected. Keep your notes organized, collect all spellings and enjoy your research. The books you'll want to review might not already be at your nearest LDS Family History Center but you can order them on microfilm to use at their facility. There are also volunteers who have the books who do limited lookups and have put their contact information online.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wgnorway/lookups.html
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/lookups.html
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bwo/norway.html

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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 31/07/2008 :  17:18:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have searched for Ingeborg Johnsdatters birth record from Granvin (1803) and wedding record, likley in Granvin or Rennesøy in 1833, without any sucess, but I managed to find her death record from April 27. 1840, she was buried Mai 3.

Ingeborg Johnsdatter huusmandskone (tenant farmers wife) age 37 Utstein Kloster (place of living) #10

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 31/07/2008 17:27:42
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Hopkins
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Posted - 31/07/2008 :  22:44:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The lady's name, "Ingeborg Johnsdatter", has been listed in many forms in various books and "family trees". Her baptismal record is the first listed for "Graven" in 1803. (Hordaland fylke, Ulvik, Ministerialbok nr. A 11 (1793-1838), Kronologisk liste 1803, side 45.)
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 01/08/2008 :  00:17:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Graven is the old spelling for Granvin, a former sub parish in Ulvik parish in Hardanger.
To be sure we need her wedding record.

I overlooked the Chronological list Hopkins.

Ingebjor Johnsdatter was christened in Granvin church Jan. 23. 1803, top 1. column right page under Graven.
Døbt Ingebjor født på Kjærland 16. Jan. Foreldre John Olsen og Ingeborg Sjursdatter
Christened Ingebjør born on Kjærland Jan. 16.Parents John Olsen and Ingebjør Sjursdatter, here

The same parents on Kjærland in 1801 with two sons, Ole and Sjur and a servan girl.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 01/08/2008 00:48:42
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jilliankloster
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Posted - 02/08/2008 :  19:50:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks kare I am going to have to look up that marriage record

um question I got this today It is this but I am curious if
Ingeborg mother Synva died at the wedding of espe June 17. 1788 as it says she drowned in 1788
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Jon Olsen married Ingeborg Sjursdatter Mokestad in 1797. She was the daughter of Sjur Jarandson Mæland (born 1736, died in 1823) and Synva Sjursdtr Ringøie (drowned in 1788). Sjur Jarandson was the son of Jarand Olson Mæland (1697-1760) and Ingeborg Torsteinsdtr Mokestad, and the grandson of Ole Jarandson Mæland (1671-1754) and Seselja Pedersdtr Mokestad (died 1723).

Edited by - jilliankloster on 02/08/2008 23:03:01
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 04/08/2008 :  01:11:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hardanger is a large area containing a lot of sub parishs and municipalities. Espe was a a sub parish or countryside in Ullensvang at Sørfjorden in Hordaland county, north where Sørfjorden and Hardangerfjorden meet you will see Granvin.

At least 4 persons were buried in Ullensvang after the wedding in Espe, they "Druknet i sjøen" Drawned in the sea on june 17. 1788, a summary, right page bottom.
Martha JacobsDatter Mæland "Druknet i sjøen" 17. Juni, age 77
Synnøva SiursDr. Mockestad Død "Druknet i sjøen" 17. Juni age 47

Next page.

Martha TorbjørnsDr Maage "Druknet i sjøen" 17. Juni age 17
Thore Johannesen Branstvedt "Druknet i sjøen" 17. Juni age 16.

Sjur Jarrandsen married 2. time to Cecilia Larsdatter on Mokestad in 1801. Aamund Sjursen age 32, unmarried, was Sjur´s son.

The cause of that 6 people drowned was likley a traditional wedding was kept in Hardanger like this
This painting is called "Brudeferden i Hardanger" The wedding in Hardanger and are kept on the Nationale Museum in Oslo.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 05/08/2008 08:24:21
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Kåarto
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Posted - 04/08/2008 :  12:09:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Some information from Hardanger and the municipalities in the area.

Ullensvang municipality and church

Kåre
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 04/08/2008 :  12:46:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Visit Mokestad, Mæland, Espe and Ringøy in this Map
Write Espe and click on "Søk", choose nr 1, click on "Velg" and watch Espe and Mæland.
Change to Foto

Repeat the same for Ringøy and Måkestad (choose nr 4). Måkestad is across the fjord for Espe, perhaps that journey was the reason for so many people drowned, bad weather?

Good luck.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 04/08/2008 14:18:36
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 04/08/2008 :  21:15:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ullensvang church June 17. 1788.

The bride and the bridgroom on June 17. 1788 was most likley Bachelor Vigleick Aschelsen Sexe and maid Christi Haldorsdatter Espe.
Best men: Halvor Olsen Espe and Peder Hendrichsen Sexe, centre right page.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 04/08/2008 23:28:10
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Hopkins
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Posted - 04/08/2008 :  22:33:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The spellings being used in these most recent postings are a bit strange to me, I'm quite curious about the source of the spellings.
The wedding couple WAS Vigleik Sekse and Kristi Halldorsdatter Espe. The persons who drowned were "Marita Urheim 69 år, Marita Meland 77 år, Synneve Måkestad 47 år, Jakob Tokheim 17 år, Margit Måge 17 år og Tore Brandstveit 16 år."
The story is found starting on page 549, Volume 1 of "Odda, Ullensvang og Kinsarvik i gamal og ny tid", 8 volumes by Olav Kolltveit
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jilliankloster
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Posted - 04/08/2008 :  22:56:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the spellings I got for the names where from Yngve Nedrebø from the archives
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Hopkins
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Posted - 05/08/2008 :  00:04:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Which archives?
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jilliankloster
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Posted - 05/08/2008 :  00:09:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I contacted this one Statsarkivet Bergen as it was for records from Hordaland

Edited by - jilliankloster on 05/08/2008 00:10:01
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