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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
 Posted - 31/08/2008 : 05:25:36
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On the IGI database of the LDS website Synneva Sjursdatter is listed 6 times - with 3 entirely different spellings of her name. The sources listed indicate that they were given that information by individuals who are probably descendants and members of that church. Several of the submissions to the IGI were likely to have been copied from each other and that gives even stronger indication that you can't know which person actually did original research in the primary records.
Yes, you can find various spellings even in the primary church records.
Yes, you CAN still view the original record on microfilm or within the scanned records of the Digitalarkivet online. That source just wasn't listed by those who made the submissions to the IGI. What exact source they used for their "research" is not indicated.
I believe in actually reviewing the primary records myself and I encourage you to also. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 31/08/2008 : 08:35:41
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Here are some records for Synniva Siursdatter:
Death see next to the last record on the left hand page here
"druknet d. 17 juni begr(aven) d 23 juni, she was 47 years less 1 month and 4 days - was born July 21 1741 then?
Syneva daughter of Sivert Aamundsen Ringøen and Hylleborre Aamundsdatter was born July 22 and baptized July 24 1741, see #15
This is from Kinsarvik Parish.
The date for marriage in LDS April 17 is actuay the engagement, see top of right hand page here
the marriage date was June 29, see 5th couple from top on the right hand page here
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Edited by - eibache on 31/08/2008 08:39:53 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 02/09/2008 : 00:36:46
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Hi Jillian,
its been a long and fine weekend, I had to mow the lawn and do some maintenance work on my cabin.
I have been thinking of John Olsens song, it´s not easy ot make a just translation of the inner thoughts and words to a man in great grief and sorrow in his heart using figurative words and expressions from the bible to make it rhyme.
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So therfore O human being
be careful
and joy yourself in trembling
There is no reason
for an accident
it can also happen to you
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In this example we can see
clearly with our own eyes
this frightening accident
0! What inner image our minds recieved
when we viewed this warning
in the year 1788
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For the wedding party
a glorious crowd was gathered
invited by a rich and powerful
wedding couple,
and because of that they had
prepared an abundance
in everything you could require
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On their day of honour
they traveled to the church
among other wedding guests
travelling together with them,
with joy and shots
they set for Ullensvang
to marry
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When they from the church sailed home
among the other wedding guests
and had sailed some of the distance
the accident happend:
The marksman/shooter fired a shot
sparks and fire hit a lot of gunpowder
and the boat exploded
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In such a condition they went home
where the wedding was held,
the dead was left behind
for others to take care of.
Earlier amusing game and joy was heard
now their cheeks were pale
and all the pleasure was gone
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But God who has determined our time
and counted our days
you had not forgotten those
who had to taste the death
although we might presume
that all of them who drowned
were Gods devoted souls
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O! The great lords mercy
and goodness without comparison
you called for thos who were prepared
to came into you´re kingdom;
but the unprepared you spared
as eternity remember
where the unprepared will be punished
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The survivors
who escaped from the deadly accident
Alas, we price our dear lord
for his proven mercy
He pulled you out of the distress of death
he want no sinners death
but everybody´s own improvement to exist
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God can predict everything
that shall happened in the world
he even give permission
when people are sinning
and their sin punish them
but God is not the cause
to fall and damage
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God has given you the freedom
to do what you want
but to abuse this freedom was the reason
for this pitiful accident
The powder that wrecked the boat
was the reason for the need.
How can we explain that.
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One could learn
from this accident
to convert in time
if God so quickly wanted to take away,
you shall not leave unredy
and let your soul end in eternal pain
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Our lifetime is like a shadow
that quickly disappears
and daily changes
in our lifetime appears.
Today we stand like a rose
but when we shall leave this world
we are like a falling flower
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So watch up for the safe
and dangerous sin and slumber
always be sober, awake and prepared;
if the death should arrive soon.
We will not know the place and time
Those who are prepared
will get a blessed ending
Kåre
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 02/09/2008 : 11:13:56
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If we return to the picture Brudeferden i Hardanger, The bridal party in Hardanger, you will see the wedding couple sitting back in the boat, the shooter and guests.
The bride wear a Brudekrone The brides crown in 1788 was likley fairly simulare to this one.
This crowns was handed down from family to family in generations as inheritance and it would not surprice me if the crown used in the 1788 wedding could still exist in this family or is kept in a museum.
This tradition is still kept in some weddings
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jilliankloster
Junior member
USA
47 Posts |
Posted - 02/09/2008 : 23:34:32
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eibache thank you so much for finding synnova's info :)
omg thank you so much Kåre for taking the time to translate this for me
I have found Lars Throndsen Kinsarvik with some help from dischat :)
Jon was his great uncle I still have to find Lars daughter Marta Kinsarvik
Lars Kinsarvik see # 1
here is the marriage for Lars father and mother
see #34
the 1865 census for the family
1865 census
Lars's son Lars born november 8 1892
number 18
Trond Larsen Death
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 03/09/2008 : 07:23:21
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The famous "Træskjærer" Wood carver Lars Kinsarvik married to Kristi Arnesdatter got 8 children born before 1900, Kirsti Arnesdatter and Lars got 5 children.
Trond was a painter, Johannes was a building carpenter and his daughter Martha was a student in Bergen at the draw school
It looks like Lars 2. time.married Amalia Andrine Kjærland (Johanna Amalia Andrea Johannesdatter) on Oct. 11. 1869 in Sund parish in Hordaland.
Martha (Marita) was christened April 18. in Kinsarvik she is listed as her mother, see #5, Trond, the painter, was christened July 3., born June 9. 1870.
Widower Lars kinsarvik married 3. time to Kristi Arnesdatter Skeie from Vikør on June 6. 1890 see top page #3
More information about Lars Kinsarvik, volume 2 and 5 II, Bygdebok from Ullensvang, Odda and Kinsarvik
Lars Kinsarvik was represented at the Paris World Fair exhibition in 1900.
Only 7 persons with last name Kinsarvik lives in Norway today, source Wikipedia.
More persons looking for Lars Kinsarvik, click here
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Edited by - Kåarto on 03/09/2008 08:55:18 |
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jilliankloster
Junior member
USA
47 Posts |
Posted - 01/10/2008 : 19:57:04
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I haven't posted up in awhile I have been trying to locate info on Endre Iversen Ellingbø b 1716 in Kattevol died 1783 Austreim
as I am trying to confirm if he is my 13th great grandfather by the names I have in my tree the connection it would seem that he is but i just would like to double check to be sure
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 01/10/2008 : 23:49:55
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A new line of family inquiry should actually be a new topic/thread. This one has no obvious relationship to the areas of Norway discussed earlier.
You'll probably have do research in Vang area of Oppland for that particular family line.
Of course, to prove your relationship you might have to find verification of almost 13 generations. |
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jilliankloster
Junior member
USA
47 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2008 : 00:47:21
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I know that there is a relationship with Ellingbo to my 3rd great grandfather Lars Rolandsen Kloster that is why i posted it in here but what connection that is I am not to sure I posted up a new topic all the info is in this new topic
http://www.norwayheritage.com/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3942
I have all the names but i am not to sure if the dates are correct |
Edited by - jilliankloster on 02/10/2008 00:48:21 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 03/10/2008 : 10:54:23
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I wonder why we didn´t find the wedding record for Roland Rolandsen and Inger Johnsdatter earlier even the date was given, either it was overlooked or the records are updatet.
They married In the Kloster church on April 9. 1833.
Bachelor Roland Rolandsen from Nordland Huusmand (cottager) under Utstein Kloster, age 29 1/2 and Maid Inger Johnsdatter Kjærland under Granvin parish, age 30
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jilliankloster
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 16/12/2008 : 00:19:09
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Hiya guys~
Sorry I hadnt posted I had been in contact with a gentleman who is connected to this line named Jim Ellingboe I received a whole lot of information from him in regards to my family line which is really really interesting and very helpful to me
Roland Rolandsen NORDLAND, He moved to Domkirken sokn, Bergen, in the spring of 1826, in military service. In Bergen, he became a
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John R Kloster b. Feb 1860 Norway
