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Don L
Junior member
New Zealand
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 Posted - 30/08/2008 : 01:16:53
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I had been searching for the ancestry of Olava Olsen, my maternal great grandmother. I have recently found that her name was Frederica Olava Olsen born approximately 1862 c/- Bertie Christensen, Gjettemyrs, Weien, Christiana. In New Zealand she was always known as Olava
She emigrated to New Zealand on board the Arethusa from London on 1879-09-03 arriving in NZ on 1879-12-07. aged 17 and described as a Domestic Servant.
I am interested in researching her ancestry. Can anyone kindly help?
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 30/08/2008 : 12:04:34
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Here she is with parents and 4 siblings in census-1865 for Christiania (Oslo), Norway:
Ole Christensen, 48, born in Hedmark county
Berthe Marie Jacobsdatter, 36, born in Gjerdrum, Akershus county
Hans Olsen, 12, born in Christiania
Karen Olsdatter, 10, born in Christiania
Marie Olsdatter, 7, born in Christiania
Fredrikke Olave Olsdatter, 5, born in Christiania
Caroline Olsdatter, 2, born in Christiania
Her parents are Ole Christensen & Berthe Marie Jacobsdatter
Berthe Marie Jacobsdatter looks to have remarried between 1866 and and 1870, because in 1875 she is married to Kristian Kristiansen.
Here is Fredrikke Olava with parents and 4 siblings in census-1875 for Christiania (Oslo), Norway:
Kristian Kristiansen, b 1828 in Kristiania
Birte Marie Jakobsen, b 1827 in Gjerdrum, Akershus county
Fredrikke Olava Olsen, b 1862 in Kristiania
Karoline Olsen, b 1864 in Kristiania
Amalie Kristiansen, b 1870 in Kristiania
Dorthea Kristiansen, b 1874 in Kristiania
Address: Gedemyrsveien 7, Kristiania
Gjettemyrs, Weien, Christiana = Gjettemyrsveien, Christiania (Oslo)... old spelling: Gedemyrsveien
Bertie Christensen = her mother Berthe Marie Jacobsdatter
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 30/08/2008 : 14:32:57
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The first child of Birthe Marie and Kristian, Amalie Christine was born at Dalsbergstien 88 Dec 20 1869, which was before they married. See #37
Fredrikke Olava was born July 30 1861 and baptized Dec 26, see #249
the parents were then living at Bisletværket, most likely the same adress as for the 1865 census.
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Edited by - eibache on 30/08/2008 14:45:37 |
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Don L
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 03/09/2008 : 22:59:17
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Hello Jan Peter, many many thanks for that most valuable information. I have forwarded this on to various family members who are ancesters of Olava's
Once again, many many thanks
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Don L
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 04/09/2008 : 05:15:49
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Hi eibache and Jan Peter,
Thanks for your help but I wonder if
can you trace Fredrikke Olava's family back any further?
Here's hoping...
Regards
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 04/09/2008 : 06:43:43
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Fredrikke Olaves sister Karen was born April 8 and baptized Karen Christine on May 25 1856, see #121
The father was working on a brickyard - Bisletværket.
Her brother Hans was born Jan 31 1854 and baptized Hans Jacob, see top record
the family was then living in Hausmansgaden. In a note it says that belonged to another pish - Vår Frelsers Menighet, the baptism is also recorded there, see
top record
- the birth date is here given as Jan 21!
When Caroline was born, see #42
they were still living at Bislet.
Fredrikke Olaves father Ole Christensen 47 years old died June 6 1867, see #101
No marriage record or birth records for her parents found so far. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 04/09/2008 : 22:20:49
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This might be her:
Berthe Maria Jacobsdatter
Christening: 28 MAR 1830 Gjerdrum, Akershus, Norway
Parents: Jacob Hermandsen & Marthe Guldbrandsdatter
Source: Akershus county, Gjerdrum, Parish register copy nr. I 1 (1816-1837), Birth and baptism records 1830, page 286-287.
No 9, right page
Hedmark is quite a big county, and there was a lot of "Ole Christensen" born there around 1820, so it will be hard to locate his origin without any more clues.
A marriage record would be essential, because that should reveal his fathers name and possibly township or the farm where he grew up.
Did you check the marriage records around 1850-1854 for Aker, Oslo, Einar?
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Don L
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 05/09/2008 : 00:11:33
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Hello Jan Peter,
Thanks for that information - it's most useful.
As far as a marriage certificate is concerned, I am unsure how to locate such a document, not being able to read the Norwegian language and not knowing where to look. Based her in New Zealand, there are limited facilities for finding such documents.
Any suggestions?
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/09/2008 : 00:33:52
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The marriage certificate should be found at the The National Archives of Norway (Riksarkivet, http://www.arkivverket.no/english/about.html), which have online scanned databases of allmost all church books in Norway, dating back several hundred years.
One problem though, is that the images are not indexed, so you can't do a search, you'll have to know where to look...
You can do a guess though... 
1. Ole Christensen is born around 1818-1820 in Hedmark county
2. Berthe Marie Jacobsdatter looks to be born in 1830 in Gjerdrum, Akershus county.
3. Their first son Hans was born Jan 31 1854 and christened in Aker church, Oslo.
4. Their first daughter Karen was also christened in Aker church (1856).
So did they also marry there?
The online records for Oslo can be viewed here.
It's possibly they married in Aker church, Oslo, around 1850-1854, so it could be of great value to scan through those images. But it could also be another church, depending where they lived in at the time of the marriage. A possibility could be Gjerdrum, Akershus county, where the bride was born, or somewhere else in Oslo.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/09/2008 : 09:08:42
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Yes Jan Peter, I did search both marriage and birth records to some extent but did not find any.
Now that you have found Berthe Marias birth and seing the note "meddelt flytting til Aker 10/11 45", we may have better luck, - Berthe Maria Jacobsdatter confirmed in Aker April 19 1846, see #48
Berthe Marias father Jacob Hermandsen in 1801
his mother Berte Erichsdatter was a widow. She was Berthe Marias grandfather Herman Hansens second wife, the mother of Jacob, but not Gulbjør - her mother was Kirsti Erichsdatter.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/09/2008 : 14:13:40
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Hi Jan Peter and Einar.
I have also been looking into the same records, Oslo and Gjerdrum, but no luck so fare.
Also the LDS records don´t give any answeres, it seems like they married between 1850-54.
Hedmark are consisting of 30 municipalities.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/09/2008 : 14:47:51
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Got them,
they married in Old Aker Church on June 1. 1851, Ole Christensen was born in Løiten next to Hamar town in Hedmark, Jan. 1. christened Jan. 27. 1822, his confirmation was on Oct. 9. 1834 in Løten church, top page #95
You found the right Berthe Marie Jacobsdatter in Gjerdrum Jan Peter
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/09/2008 : 15:36:44
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Løten church Jan. 27.1822
Ole born Jan. 1 to Christen Olsen and Inger Hansdr Røne #12
Godparents: Anders Jonsen Lille Fønseth, Hans Knudsen Røne (Stabberud), Paul Christensen Røne, Inger Jonsdr. ibid (Røne)
In the Ministerial church book 1814-32 the Godfather Hans Knudsen Røne is named Hans Knudsen Stabberud.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 05/09/2008 : 15:54:53
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Well done Kaare, one snag though, they did not marry june 1, that was the third lysning, as I see it they were married Sept 14 1851. The marriage record is #111
Looks like we are a litlle different on the birth date of Ole as well, I see it as Jan 7, see third to the last record on the left hand page here
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 05/09/2008 : 15:56:35
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Løten church
Røne
You are right Einar, Cop: Sept. 14.
Kåre |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/09/2008 : 17:44:23
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Christen Olsen and Inger Hansdatter married March 29 1816, see #7
Christen Olsen came from vestre lille Tindstad and was 22 years old, Inger Hansdatter was 25 years old and came from Røne.
In 1801 Inger was on Stabrud with her parents and siblings, see here
Ole was with his parents on Engelaug vestre in 1801
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Einar |
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Frederica (Olava )Olsen
