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TLarson
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 Posted - 31/08/2008 : 00:43:31
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| I'm sorry, but if he's on the same list as Gisken I'm not sure which one he is. If he is in a different emigrant list, I don't really know how to find him because I can't read the Norwegian so I'm not sure how to navigate in the database. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 31/08/2008 : 00:52:30
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The online database of emigrants from Trondheim consists of almost 200 000 names.
John Pedersen Rotvold (19) is listed as emigrated on April 26th, 1869, 11 years before his sister Gisken.
Could this be him in census-1880 for Gordon, Todd, Minnesota?
With reference to the census Page Number, this must be a neighbouring house to where this "Jisken Pettersen (26)" was found.
From the 1900 United States Federal Census:
Anne Peterson 46 (Widowed, born Sep 1853)
Michael Peterson 23 (born Jan 1877)
Ingeborg Peterson 21 (born Feb 1879)
Johan Peterson 19 (born Apr 1881)
Martin Peterson 17 (born Feb 1883)
Johana Peterson 15 (born Jan 1885)
Marit Peterson 12 (born 1888)
Thomas Peterson 9 (born Nov 1890)
Julia Peterson 8 (born Apr 1892)
Residence in 1900: Osakis Village, Gordon, Todd, Minnesota
Jan Peter |
Edited by - jwiborg on 31/08/2008 01:50:35 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 31/08/2008 : 02:08:09
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See also this LDS record.
Submitter.
Gisken is missing...
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TLarson
Senior member
USA
205 Posts |
Posted - 04/09/2008 : 23:06:50
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I am trying to figure out who Donald L Rodvold's parents were. He was born January 15, 1934 and died Death: 12 Sep 2005. On the social security death index it doesn't give his parents names and I'm trying to figure out if he's related to me through the Rodvolds listed above.
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 05/09/2008 : 05:33:07
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Hi,
Don't know if this will help or not... From www.genealogy.com:
"I have barely begun my research but with the gracious assistance of Jean Skar in Oslo, Norway, great progress has been made.
We have gone back ten generations in Hardaland (Voss, Norway), discovering the first occupant of a farm place known as Hernaes.
His name was Anders Monsson. He was born about 1610. He was a
farmer whose parents miraculously survived the Plague. As the nation began to repopulate, the offspring moved further into the hinterland, recovering the farms abandoned by earlier owners and victims of the Black Death. So Ander Monsson and wife (unknown) hada son they named Ole Andersson and so on and so on.
My name is Don Rodvold. Henry Hernes was my mother's father. I live in Minneapolis, MN. I was born in 1934. I continue my research to learn more of my mother's maternal side. "
Google found this.
Jackie M. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 05/09/2008 : 23:28:18
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Henry L. Herness would be Donald's maternal grandfather.
Henry L. Herness
Birth: 11 JUN 1870, Eagle Lake Twp, Otter Tail, Minnesota
Death: 26 JAN 1958
Parents: Lars Haldorsen Herness & Martha Holo
Spouse 1:
Emily Nelson
Birth: 17 OCT 1879, Eagle Lake Twp, Otter Tail, Minnesota
Marriage: 25 JAN 1902, Otter Tail, Minnesota
Death: 08 SEP 1905
Spouse 2:
Johanna Christine Acilson Nelson
Birth: 12 JAN 1890, Iowa
Marriage: 03 NOV 1909, Fergus Falls, Otter Tail, Minnesota
Death: 27 AUG 1953
Lars Haldorsen Hernęs
Birth: 03 FEB 1833, Evanger, Voss, Hordaland
Marriage: About 1868, Eau Clair, Chippewa, Wisconsin
Parents: Haldor Larsen Hernęs & Gunhild Olsdatter, Hernęs in Evanger, Voss, Hordaland
Marithe Christensen Hole ("Martha Holo")
Birth: 19 DEC 1843
Christening: 28 JAN 1844, Voss, Hordaland
Marriage: About 1868, Eau Clair, Chippewa, Wisconsin
Death: 27 MAR 1930
Parents: Christen Olsen & Inga Olsdr
Marthe Chrestensdatter Hole (1) emigrated with parents and brother to America on May 7th, 1844.
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Edited by - jwiborg on 06/09/2008 00:53:35 |
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TLarson
Senior member
USA
205 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2008 : 02:15:37
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| Can it be found who Henry's children were so then I could maybe figure out who Donald's mother was? |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2008 : 02:45:31
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Hi,
No sooner said, than done:
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=70610&id=I08932
Just in case this address doesn't work, search for Henry Herness at:
www.rootsweb.com
and the database with Henry's family will come up in world connect. Since I'm coming late to this topic, yes, this family is the same as the family you found in the Hanks ND cemetery mentioned in your earlier post. You wrote "Manus" for the father's name but the database has it as "Magnus." Is this a relative?
Good Luck
Jackie M.
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TLarson
Senior member
USA
205 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2008 : 03:35:22
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| I am slightly confused because in the family information above the only child of Henry that married a Rodvold had just one child that was born in 1943 NOT 1934 and his name was Dennis NOT Donald... Not sure what to think about this! Any help or insight would be appreciated! Thank you! |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2008 : 04:22:54
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So have you determined if you are related to them? It seems pretty useless to ask these people to research all of this for you if you don't know if they are relatives. Is it just curiousity about Donald or actually have any possible use to your own family history research?
Did you make or even attempt contact with the woman who posted the family trees on WorldConnect for the Henry Herness and Rodvold families? The name and email address is listed there.
You can do your own navigation in the Digitalarkivet databases. Study this helpful article which will tell you how.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/DigitalArchives.html
Other good basic instruction -
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/articles.html |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2008 : 04:27:39
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Hi,
Most family history databases are a "work in process." Just because Donald doesnot appear on the list of children doesn't mean that he doesn't belong there but more likely the database holder is in the process of "perfecting" their information and this family may or may not be one of a critical importantance to the database holder. As it is there are several other details not correct or questionable, too.
Your first question was if anyone knew who the parents of Donald Rodvold b 1934 were. You were directed to send a letter to SS to get a copy of Donald's application which is one source of this information. You could also see if there is a Minnesota death certificate for him & spend the ___ bucks for that.
Then you rephrased the question to find the name of which girl child of Henry Herness may have married which Rodvold. And in the database that answer is given as Gladys Herness & Selmar Rodvold. What is the likelihood that there is another father Rodvold and mother Herness couple with connections to Todd county Minnesota ? I'm guessing not very likely! And in the database their marriage date is given as 1929, it seems like a long dry spell from 1929 to 1943 with no babies!
The son Dennis died in Cass county, N.D. (I know that because he appears in the online index of North Dakota deaths)so my next opportunity I will check and see if there is a local obit for him. Now all this fussing has made me curious and I'll be at a spot convenient for me to check for the information soon. If you remember your SSDI information about your target Donald Rodvold it said that his SSN was issued in North Dakota meaning he was living in North Dakota in his early adulthood, which makes a connection to these folks ever more likely. This is how you can build a circumstantial case until you get definitive proof. In the meantime you certainly may harvest all information you can get for free, until you know for sure that the family is ruled in or out.
You can contact the database holder by email and ask her directly what her interest is and maybe she has more information than divulged in that upload of her database. There is also at least one other person with a database on these Rodvolds at rootsweb--it appears the connector for this person is the brother Melvin -of Selmer who is the father of Dennis Rodvold. So you may want to contact that person as well.
A research project for people with a particular surname is a legitimate line of search, especially after people have adopted the practice of an inherited surname. Whether or not you are actually related to this group doesn't matter unless that is what really floats your boat. Responding to requests for assistance in this forum is totally voluntary and the fun of that is what floats my boat!
You see a symbiotic relationship!
Hilsen,
Jackie M. |
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TLarson
Senior member
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205 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2008 : 07:30:08
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| I just went to the Star Tribune website to see if Don's obituary was listed anywhere and lo and behold SUCCESS! His parents were Selmer and Gladys and his brother Dennis preceded him in death. Everything found so far matches! |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2008 : 08:04:20
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Hi,
Eureka!
Okay so what's your goal now?
If you really want to find if these Rodvolds are relatives of Gisken Pedersdatter Rotvald in this database at Rootsweb it lists Magnus as coming from Stordalen Norway and his father is listed as Syver J. Rodvold born in Jan 1834 probably Stordalen. Are these people of interest?
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=farnskime&id=I10496
Good Luck!
Jackie M.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 06/09/2008 : 11:06:34
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Magnus mother Mali (Rodvold) was Mali Pedersdatter born Febr 24 1836, see #60
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