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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 06/09/2008 : 11:32:34
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Magnus mother Mali (Rodvold) was Mali Pedersdatter born Febr 24 1836, see #60
The parents in 1865
Emigration records from 1881, see family
Magnus was born at Staaløien farm in Stordalen school district Dec 9 1870, not at Nov 1870 as written in RootsWeb, see #49
Magnus father Syvert J. Rodvold was according to the 1865 census born in Strinden, he was most likely #8
his father being Jon Sivertsen, therby "Syvert = Sivert J."
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Edited by - eibache on 06/09/2008 11:47:00 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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TLarson
Senior member
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Posted - 06/09/2008 : 16:34:04
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| I guess my goal(s) are as follows. To find out how these Rodvolds are related to Gisken and the Don Rodvold family. Also some "new" Rodvolds I found out that my great-great uncle married a Rodvold and her name was Annie Born April 2, 1923 and Died December 19, 1947. She died in Washington state. I have another Rodvold to add to this list but am not sure on the first name so I will add it when I figure that out. |
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TLarson
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Posted - 06/09/2008 : 20:58:28
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See also this LDS record.
Submitter.
Gisken is missing...
Jan Peter
If Gisken (Gidsken) was a child in this family (above) then she would have been married to her first cousin because her mother was a sister to her husband's father. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/09/2008 : 22:43:07
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Also this LDS record what? Missing URL?
Gisken married another Rodvold?? You initially said that Gisken Pederdatter Rotvald was your great-great-grandfather's first wife. Your great-great-grandfather was another Rodvold?
Perhaps you are confusing things with that statement. You could research Gisken's parents as found in the birth record as given on previous pages of this wandering diatribe and find any relationship to the ancestral line of this seemingly random choice of a Donald Rodvold who might turn out to have been some kind of distant cousin.
Consider also that many submitters to the LDS files only did research on their DIRECT ancestral lines - not doing any research on siblings along the way.
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TLarson
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Posted - 06/09/2008 : 22:57:10
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| The LDS record I was referring to can be viewed by going to page two and looking for the same thing posted above. Gisken didn't marry another Rodvold but a Johnson/Storoien. Her husband Peter Johnson's fathers name was John Johnson Storoien and his sister was Ingeborg. Ingeborg being the mother in the LDS record that is thought to be Gisken's parents and siblings. So Peter and Gisken would have been 1st cousins according to that. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/09/2008 : 04:32:27
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Hi,
Wandering diatribe??? Ouch!
Here are a couple of web addresses which may help your research in Washington state. The first is the Washington state Secretary of States page which has many different record groups available for searching.
http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/Search.aspx
The other is the Tacoma newspaper obit online searchable index.
http://search.tacomapubliclibrary.org/obits/defaultobits.asp
Today I looked at the obit clipping file and found that obits from Oct 1977 were missing so was unable to find Dennis Rodvold. I did find an abstract of the obit of Sarah Rodvald, which contained no really new info--she died at a Williston, N.D. hospital 15 Feb 1963, b. 23 May 1879, came to Divide in 1917, husband died in 1920 and she was buried in the Bethany Lutheran Cemetery near Hanks, N.D. no survivors mentioned. There was no obit abstract for Magnus Rodvold. There are two stories about the family in the book Divide County History 1974, Crosby, North Dakota on pages 223 &224 pretty much the same info as at the rootsweb database, the Magnus Rodvold family contained 6 boys and that Magnus and Sarah "traded" their farm in Todd county, Minnesota with Marie Lee for one in Sioux Trail Township, Divide County. 1915 Plat map has a "Marinus Lee" in Sioux Trail but no other of that surname.
Lykke til,
Jackie M. |
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TLarson
Senior member
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Posted - 10/09/2008 : 05:57:01
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| The other Rodvold I metioned above (that I didn't know the first name) is Mary Rodvold who married John Olson. I have heard that she was also called Marie or Marit so any of these names could be for the same person. I will get back to this as far as birth date. I do know it I just don't have it with me right now. I would like to know who her parents were so I can figure out how she ties into this "mess". |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 10/09/2008 : 12:01:58
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So Peter and Gisken would have been 1st cousins according to that.
No, see as follows:
Peter Johanessen Stordahl ROTVOLD, 14 Dec 1821 Meraaker, Nord Trondelag, Norway
Married: 25 Jun 1843
Ingeborg Johnsdatter STORDAL, 12 Aug 1820 Meraaker, Nord Trondelag, Norway
Children:
Sigrid Pedersdatter ROTVOLD, 5 Nov 1843 Meraaker, Nord Trondelag, Norway
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16376&idx_id=16376&uid=ny&idx_side=-207
#25
Johannes Petersen Aas ROTVOLD, 5 Nov 1843 Meraaker, Nord Trondelag, Norway
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16376&idx_id=16376&uid=ny&idx_side=-207
#24
Anne Petersdatter ROTVOLD, 20 Jan 1845 Meraaker, Nord Trondelag, Norway
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2463&idx_id=2463&uid=ny&idx_side=-8
#67 24 febr – not 20 Jan.
Johanna Petersdatter ROTVOLD, 5 May 1847 Meraaker, Nord Trondelag, Norway
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16376&idx_id=16376&uid=ny&idx_side=-38
#158
Thomas Petersen ROTVOLD, 1848 Meraaker, Nord Trondelag, Norway - No Thomas born 1848 at Rotvold, neither in the 1865 census.
John Petersen ROTVOLD, 1849 Meraaker, Nord Trondelag, Norway - No John born 1849 at Rotvold
Isken Pedersdatter ROTVOLD, 21 April 1852 Meraaker, Nord Trondelag, Norway
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16376&idx_id=16376&uid=ny&idx_side=-10
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Ole Petersen ROTVOLD, 17 Jul 1866 Meraaker, Nord Trondelag, Norway
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6620&idx_id=6620&uid=ny&idx_side=-17
#39 Peter Johannesen now married to Marit Olsdatter
Giskens mother Ingeborg Johnsdatter was born Aug 12 1820, parents John Olsen and Anne Sørensdatter Stordal
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16375&idx_id=16375&uid=ny&idx_side=-183
#212
If Gisken married John Johnsen Storøien,
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6620&idx_id=6620&uid=ny&idx_side=-26
#32 parents John Johnsen Storøien (1848) and Sigrid Johnsdatter Stordal (1850) married June 27 1869
John Johnsen Storøien (1848)
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2463&idx_id=2463&uid=ny&idx_side=-46
#41, parents John Johnsen and Marit Pedersdatter Stordal
John Johnsen Stordal
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16375&idx_id=16375&uid=ny&idx_side=-59
#127 parents John Olsen and Anne Sørensdatter Stordal |
Einar |
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TLarson
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Posted - 11/09/2008 : 03:55:53
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| Giskens mother was a sister to John Johnsen Stordal because the parents match so she would still make Peter and her 1st cousins. But she did marry John Johnsen Storoien born 1869. So I'm still not sure who Peter's wife was, but here name WAS Gidsken... |
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TLarson
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Posted - 11/09/2008 : 04:36:19
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| Disregard what I said above, I found that I have two conflicting sources. One says that Peder married Gisken and the other says that John (Peter's nephew) married Gisken. My more complete source needs to be correct because it says that John (Peder's nephew) married a Pauline Gilseth. So Peder did marry Gisken! How could there be two Giskens so similar? I will stick with Peder marrying Gisken until I find out otherwise! and my source says that Gisken was born in 1852 so she is the correct one above! But Peder and Gisken would still be 1st cousins if Giskens mother was indeed a sister to Peder's father! |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 11/09/2008 : 07:20:38
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Googling on Storøien I found:
Far; Søren Olssen Gilsåmo, f. 1740 - d. ? g.m. Kirsti Pedersdtr., f. 1747 - d. 25.07.1821
- Nybyggere på Gilsåmo, gr.nr. 47, br.nr. 21. Innflyttet fra Røros. Ved folketellinga i 1801, bosatt på Gilsåmo. De fikk 6 barn:
B.1. Ole, (1779 - 1850) g.m. Anne Johnsdtr. Kirkeby, (1794 - 20.09.1854) Bygsla Eggen, gr.nr.29, løpenr. 539, 1809. - 11 barn.
B.2. Peter, (1779 - 1834) g.m. Kirsti Andersdtr. Dalamo, (1792 - 1878) - De fikk som kjent 9 barn.
B.3. Anne, (1782 - 1856) g.m. John Olssen Storøien, (1785 - 01.04.1874) Bruker av Storøien, gr.nr.47, br.nr.16. - 4 barn.
B.4. Klara, (1786 - 1840) g.m. Hemming Halvorsen Ringen, (1783 - 11.12.1862) Bygsla Over Brende, gr.nr.23, br.nr.2, 1835. - 6 barn, samt Hemmings 2 fra første ekteskap.
B.5. Peder, (1788 - 1840) g.m. Anne Olsdtr, (1793 - ?), Selbu. Bygsla Myran, gr.nr.33, br.nr. 4, 1819. - 4 barn.
B.6. Anne, (1792 - ?) g.m. Thomas Olssen, f.?
B.3. is the parents of Ingeborg Johnsdatter born Aug 12 1820, Giskens (Jiskens) mother, the baptismal record say they were on Stordal. It might be that Storøien is a farm (or cottar place) under the bigger Stordal farm. |
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TLarson
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Posted - 12/09/2008 : 01:17:52
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Syver J. Rodvold was Magnus's father born 1834 and I'm wondering if he would have been an older brother to Gisken's father Peter who was born Dec 14, 1821. I think it's likely because Peter was also a son of Jon since he was a Peter Johnson. Likely?
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 12/09/2008 : 07:31:56
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| No, not likely, Giskens father was son of Johannes, not John. He was also born Øvre Størdalens Præstegjeld while Magnus father was from Malvik in Strinden. |
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TLarson
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Posted - 13/09/2008 : 20:05:03
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| Would the area in Meraker where most of these Rodvolds seem to be from be in the Verdal region? I am just wondering because in Verdalsboka 4 there are several Rosvold farms list and I'm wondering if I were to get this book if that might give me some more answers to when some of these people came to America etc. |
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Differences in spelling of Rodvald
