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luciahansen
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 Posted - 24/10/2008 : 22:47:39
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I am trying to find more information about my great grandfather, Olaus Larsson Austad, as he was recorded in the 1865 census. He was born in 1856 near Hylla or Rora, North Trondelag county. He emmigrated to the US in 1882, and soon married Martha Kjerstan Hellem, who emmigrated w/him and came from the same area. I have no information about which ship they arrived on. They settled in Enderlin, Ransom Co., North Dakota.
I'd very much appreciate any information!
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Lucia L. Hansen |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 24/10/2008 : 23:59:51
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Emigrated: Nord-Trøndelag
Emigrant_Norwegian_Name: Olaus Austad
American_Name: Olaus "Ole" Austad
Emigration_Date: March 1, 1881
Emigrated_to: Jackson, MN
Birthdate_Place: (Hylla) Rora Austad Olson farm
Father_Name: Lars Oppem Austad
Mother_Name: Ragnhild Austad
Spouse_Name: Martha Kjersten Austad
Marriage_Date_and_Place: 1882 Jackson, MN
Submitter_Descendant: Janet Austad Parks
Phonenumber and email to the submitter can be found here
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Edited by - jwiborg on 25/10/2008 00:17:25 |
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luciahansen
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Posted - 25/10/2008 : 01:28:48
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I am SO impressed by your speedy reply!!!! Thank you very much!
I had heard that Olaus had emmigrated first to Jackson, MN., then on to Enderlin, however, now with the emmigration date, I would guess that I could now research to see what ship he was on.
Also would like to research marriage proof, which I'll do next.
Finally, I would like to know more about my great grandmother, Martha Kjersten Austad (Hellem). I would guess that she is from the same area (near Hylla or Rora). I struggle to understand church records in Norwegian w/my Norwwegian/English dictionary - hard work.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 25/10/2008 : 01:44:01
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Kjersten Hellem (22) from Inderøy, Nord-Trøndelag, left Trondheim harbour on April 20th 1881. Destination was Windom, Minnesota.
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Edited by - jwiborg on 25/10/2008 11:23:26 |
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luciahansen
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Posted - 25/10/2008 : 05:07:01
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Again, I thank you! How on Earth do you find the information so very effortlessly?!!!!
I have found an e-mail from a 3rd cousin, living in Rora, that Kjersten Hellem Austad was the cousin of Olaus Austad, the daughter of Lars' brother Peder Martin, who also had a farm on Rora. At least two of her siblings also emmigrated to America. Lars and Peder Martin were supposedly born in Verdal. There were 10 siblings; the youngest one (born 1830) was named Olaus, so apparently my great grandfather was named afterhis uncle. Their father died the year my Olaus was born, and that made a big problem for the family. It is said that they gathered in the farmyard, forming a circle, holding hands, promising always to take care of each other.
Would you have resources to validate this?
I plan to visit Norway next summer to meet my distant relatives and see the "home place" - photograph the farm, cemetaries, etc. It's wonderful to have these connections!
Many many thanks for your information!
Lucia H. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 25/10/2008 : 10:57:22
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quote:
Originally posted by luciahansen
Would you have resources to validate this?
Lucia H.
Hi,
I can't confirm that they were holding hands on the courtyard, but I can confirm that Olaus & "Martha Kjerstan" (Kirsten Martha) are first cousins.
Children of Ole Pedersen Oppem & Gollaug Haldorsdr, Oppem farm in Vuku, Verdal, Nord-Trøndelag:
Birit, born 04 Apr 1812, conf 28 Sep 1828, married 08 Sep 1842, dead 04 Jul 1872
Kirstine, born 26 Dec 1813, conf 28 Sep 1830, married 11 Jul 1851, widowed 21 Dec 1886
Peder, born 28 Nov 1815,
Ole, born 10 Sep 1817, conf 13 Oct 1833. Soldier
Lars, born 10 Sep 1819, conf 1836. Soldier
Martha, born 27 Sep 1821.
Halvor, born 04 Jan 1826, conf 03 Oct 1841. Soldier
Anne, born 12 Sep 1827, conf 15 oct 1843, married 06 Apr 1848
Olaus, born 15 Jun 1830, conf 28 Sep 45, married 11 Jul 1861
All children born on Oppem farm in Vuku, Verdal, Nord-Trøndelag.
Peder born 28 Nov 1815 is the father of Martha Kjerstan Hellem.
Lars born 10 Sep 1819 is the father of Olaus Larsson Austad.
Ole Pedersen Oppem, born 1781, dead 30 Nov 1829.
Gulllaug Haldorsdr Oppem, born 1789, dead 25 Dec 1877.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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4961 Posts |
Posted - 25/10/2008 : 11:01:58
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Olaus at age 8 at Austad mellom farm in census-1865.
Mother is Ragnhild Olsdatter (49)
Siblings of Olaus:
Sivert Larsson (17)
Serine Larsdatter (15)
Ole Larsson (13)
Karl G. Larsson (6)
Here is Martha Kjerstan Hellem in census-1875 for Haldum farm in Inderøy. Her christening name is Kirsten Martha Pedersdatter. she is born in Vuku, Verdal, by parents Peder Olsen & Martha Nielsdatter.
Children of Peder Olsen & Martha Nielsdatter, Hjelden farm in Vuku, Verdal, Nord Trøndelag
Kirsten Martha, born 29 Jul 1858, Conf 11 Oct 1874
Peder Martin, born 06 Dec 1863
Jan Peter
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eibache
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Posted - 25/10/2008 : 13:20:42
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Olaus (Ole) Larsen was born March 10 1858, his parents were then on Austad, see #54
when he was confirmed they were also on Austad, see #40
Olaus oldest brother Sivert was born out of wedlock, see #9
the parents, Lars Olsen and Ragnhild Olsdatter, married Oct 27 1850, see #7
Ragnhild Olsdatter was born Febr 29 1817, see #2
her parents were Ole Sivertsen and Martha Sivertsdatter, they married Nov 22 1810, see 3rd couple in left column on right hand page
here
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 25/10/2008 : 14:17:57
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If it is of interest to see the baptismal record for Kirsten Martha it is #50
Kjersten Martha - parents being Peder Olsen Vestre Hjelde and Martha Andrea Nielsdatter.
Kjersten, her parents and siblings in 1865
Martha Andrea Nielsdatter was born Jan 29 1816, see #8
her parents were corporal Niels Andorsen and Elisabeth Hansdatter Hellem.
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luciahansen
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Posted - 25/10/2008 : 15:39:21
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THANK YOU both for ALL the information! It's Christmas time! I'll digest all this and see if I can come up w/more questions! Again, thank you!
Lucia |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2008 : 14:58:13
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Ole Pedersen Qvelløe born Sept 11 1782 baptized Sept 22 and Gollaug Haldoesdatter Steene sør born Nov 24 1789 baptized Nov 29 was engaged June 23 1811 and married July 5 1811.
Ole Pedersens parents were
Peder Olsen (1745) Nedre Faarn and Bereth Joensdatter (born Jan 25 1755, baptized Febr 2) Schrove were engaged April 25 1779 and married July 1 1779 - they were living at Qvelløe
He had the following siblings
Gunnild born Jan 21 1781 bapt Jan 28
Joen b. July 1 1784 bapt July 11
Gurue born July 14 1787 bapt July 22
Peder born June 26 1793 bapt June 30
Lars born Sept 28 1795 bapt Oct 4
Ole born Dec 18 1799 bapt Dec 26
Golloug Haldoesdatters parents were
Haldoe Rasmusen Oppem (born Dec 5 1749 baptized Dec 24 - his father was Rasmus Green) and Kierstie Olsdatter Sør Steene (born March 29 1754 baptized April 1 - her father was Corporal Ole Sør-Steene) married Dec 16 1779. (Haldoe and Kierstie were "beslægtet i 2nd ledd" – 1st cousins)
Gollougs siblings were
(Anne born Jan 15 1776 her mother was Marith Iversdatter Østgaard)
Birit born Jan 21 1780 baptized Jan 30
Kierstie born Sept 27 1782 baptized Oct 6 died Sept 11 1808
Lisbeth born Dec 23 1783 baptized Jan 8 1784 married twice, 2nd time July 14 1820
Marthe born Nov 11 1792 baptized Nov 25
Lise born Aug 2 1798 baptized Aug 12 died Febr 9 1886
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luciahansen
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Posted - 28/10/2008 : 21:41:09
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Dear Einar
I'm still working out all the connections between families - I also have third cousins living in Norway who have given me some information. Fitting it all together has been time-consuming. Thanks so very much for the new information! It has suddenly "opened a door" in my understanding!
Lucia |
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luciahansen
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Posted - 07/11/2008 : 21:04:19
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OK.... I'm back again.... w/many questions.
First, if it's not TOO much trouble, I'm having difficult time decifering the documents. I can recognize several names, but many, especially the witnesses, I cannot. I understand knowing everyone in an entry can be of great help in understanding relationships. Could anyone go back to these records and spell out those names?
Next, in eibache's 28/10 reply, Gollaug Haldoesdatter also has the name "Steene Sør" attached (this is from relatives in Norway - what would that mean?
Next, the family came from a farm named "Austad". Going to the website "rorsia.com", I've found old photographs of buildings there. My Great Grandfather, Olaus Austad was from "Austad Mellem or Mellom"; however I've also found photographs of "Austad Vestre", "Austad Nordre", "Austad Søndre", and "Austad Under As" - I assume that it was once a very large farm which got subdivided as families grew??? I also have a photograph entitled "Austgarden" - is this the entire complex???
Next, Kjersten Hellem left Trondheim harbor on April 20, 1881. Destination was Windom, MN. Her brothers came too - were they on the same ship? Brothers Anton Pedersen and Peter Martin Pedersen. Also a sister, Grethe (Gertrude) Pedersdatter. Were they on the same ship, just listed on another page? On Kjersten's page, there is a "Olaus O. Aarstad" - is this my Olaus, just w/a misspelled name?
Finally, the ship's destination was Windom, MN. However, I haven't figured out what their initial port may have been. Did they arrive, perhaps in New York, and then travel overland?
Too many questions for one entry, I'm sure. I would appreciate any insight anyone may have!
Thank you thank you!!!
Lucia
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/11/2008 : 22:16:38
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From brief review you could expect that Austad, Qvelløe, Nedre Faarn, Oppem, Østgaard and Steene Sør/Sør-Steene are names of farms where these persons were born, resided and/or had family history.
Good information about Norwegian naming practices and patterns can be studied:
Ancestors from Norway articles
Those Norwegian names...
Other good study:
Tips for Digitalarkivet
A Norwegian emigrant with a destination of Minnesota in the early 1880s could well have taken passage to Quebec instead of New York or other east coast US ports. |
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eibache
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Posted - 07/11/2008 : 23:33:25
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Steene is the farm name, "sør" = south means the southern Steene farm, most likely it was earlier just one farm Steene.
For Austad you have seen smilar names "Austad Mellem or Mellom" means Austad in the middle, "Austad Vestre" is Austad western, "Austad Nordre" is Austad northern, "Austad Søndre" is Austad southern, and "Austad Under As" is most likely Austad under Ås.
With this map
you can find Austad, nordre Austad, søre and Austad, midtre = mellom.
"Austgarden" = Aust Garden, meaning the Eastern Farm.
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eibache
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Posted - 08/11/2008 : 07:59:01
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Her brothers came too - were they on the same ship? Brothers Anton Pedersen and Peter Martin Pedersen.
Don't know their age but they could be
Anton P.
Peter M.
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Olaus Larsson Austad
