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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 18/03/2009 : 07:58:52
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Yes, she traveled alone. And I would guess she already knew someone in Chicago, since she intended to go there.
A small correction; The ship from Stavanger was not headed for Glasgow, since that city is on the west coast of the UK. She probably landed in Hull, or possibly Newcastle or Edinburgh.
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Eivind Olmhus
New on board
Norway
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Posted - 27/04/2009 : 19:53:31
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Hello! I'm Eivind Olmhus, 16 years from Norway.
I was just for fun searching for Olmhus with google when i found this topic. and want to correct and maybe try to help you, if i can.
I live at Olmhus, and as i write, i'm sitting in the white house to the right at Olmhus farm.
There is not two Olmhus farms, and i've never heard anything about it. At the Picture Olmhus is the third farm to the right of the river. The two nearest is South and North Øyhus.
The valley is not called Begnadalen. But Hølera! Papers and TV do write Begnadalen though, which is south of Hølera. Or in some situations Bagn, which is North of us. Hedalen is vest of Begnadalen again.
I do not know alot about my ancestors, but we do got a bygdebok. Something like Villagebook in English. About whole Sør-Aurdal. So ask, and i can try to find something out there.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 27/04/2009 : 20:37:22
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Hallo Eivind. So Olmhus is the third farm and you lives in the white house, it´s a small world. Then I was wrong when I told Ray it was one of the two farms in front. Both the 1865 and the 1900 census (Folketellinger) had three Olmhus farms. It looks like a nice place to live close to the river.
How old is the Stabbur, likley it was build when Ray´s ancestors lived there.
Click on Ray´s name in page 1 and send him a message, I garantee he will be delighted to hear from you.
It was nice to hear from you.
Kåre
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Eivind Olmhus
New on board
Norway
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Posted - 27/04/2009 : 20:47:56
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Hi Kårto! Already sent him a mail
The stabbur is most likely built in 1833 which is painted over the door.
Yes it is really nice to live here! Where are you from exactly?
About the 3 farms, maybe it was "husmannsplasser"? I haven't heard anything about. |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 27/04/2009 : 21:07:42
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Guess you are right about the two other farms beeing sub farms " Husmannsplasser" named Olmhushagen and Olmhussveen, the 4. farm Olmhus mentioned in the 1865 census was most likley a "Kårhus" for the old people.
I live in Kongsberg, I have been driving threw Begnadalen many years ago, a nice place. Say hello to Ray from us in Norway Heritage.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2009 : 01:55:13
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It appears as if the name of the ship carrying Andreas Syversen to the US was "The City of New York". The Shipmaster was named Joseph Jackson Halcron. As was stated above the ship arrived on June 12 , 1868. |
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Ray Syverson
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 28/04/2009 : 01:58:43
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WOW! This forum is great! Eivind, It is exicting to hear from you. I got your email and will be contacting you very soon. I hope you don't mind me bothering you with questions.
The Øyhus farm does have some significance to my family history. I think it was that an ancestor named Herman Syversen(or Sigurdsen or Siffuersen or ? ) came to Olmhus from Luster in Sogn in the late 1600s. He worked at Olmhus for Ola Ivarsen Olmhus for awhile and then moved over to Øyhus farm. I'm pretty sure that Herman married the sister of Ola Ivarsen's wife Marit Engebretsdtr Bøen, this sister's name being Kari Engebretsdtr Bøen. Herman then moved to Bøen farm and became Herman Syversen Bøen. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2009 : 02:24:57
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Norway Heritage Website shows a Andreas Syversen age 29 departing Aadalen Val to Chicago on May 15,1868. Passenger number 300.
http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_list.asp?jo=2146
This ship is the S/S Pacific
Are these two actualy references to the same person describing two legs of his trip. First on the S/S Pacific and then on the "City of New York" |
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Ray Syverson
Junior member
USA
31 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2009 : 05:00:39
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Kåre, Thank you for putting Eivind in contact with me. And lyndal40, I have seen the Andreas Syversen from Aadelen and checked into him. The time that he came over would work out ,however it turned out that he must be a different person.He was in the 1865 census in Aadelen ,was born there, and living with his mother. My Andreas was born in Land and his mother had died in 1851. I think the Andreas on the SS Pacific and on the City of New York are the same man, but not my guy. Thanks Ray |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2009 : 09:06:08
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Ray, its a small world. I am glad Eivind Olmhus pointed out the correct farm. It was Baard Jensen age 70 and wife Kari Olsdr age 50 who owned the "2." Olmhus farm, they were former owners so we can assume they kept a part of Olmus for their own use as long as they lived, a contract secured them "Føderaad", free supplies for the rest of the life.
The church records for Nordre Land around 1860 seems ta have vanished. It shall be a Ministerial book nr 7. 1847-59 including Torpa (not found online)
Most emigratnts from Land settled down in Rock Prairie Wis, Wiota Wis, West Paint Creek Iowa, Zumbrota Minn, Norway Lake Minn, Richland Co. Wis, Trempeleau Co. Wis, Bode Iowa and Hillsboro N.D. Source, copy from: "Boka om Land" Perhaps Andreas came to one of this settlements first?
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j-klem
New on board
USA
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Posted - 28/04/2009 : 18:37:52
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quote: Originally posted by Ray Syverson
Thank you eibache for those records. I had seen the one for Ingebor's birth but not the others. I made copies. Kåre, thank you so much for the picture of the farms. I can't read the desciption so I'll ask you if the picture is facing south or north. I think Olmhus is the west side of the river.I didn't know there were two farms. The 69 year old Ole is Syver Olsen's father,b.1732. The old goat is on his third wife,and a young one at that. The other Ole Olsen there( age 42 I think),is a brother of Syver. Syver's mother was Karin Syversdatter Bøen. I have been able to trace the Syver in my name back through her famiy to a Syver/Siver/Siffuer Ørjesen Søvde/Saude from Luster in Sogn,born in 1623. Ray Syverson
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Nørdre Klemmetsrud of Hedalen, 1820-1882 |
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j-klem
New on board
USA
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Posted - 28/04/2009 : 19:02:09
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I am a descentant of Syver Ørjesen Søvde from Luster in Sogn, born in 1623.
The "Before Klemmetsrud" page on my website shows how I connect through the Bøen family of Reinli.
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Nørdre Klemmetsrud of Hedalen, 1820-1882 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2009 : 19:30:20
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I am not sure about which way is north or west Ray. Click on the photo twize to expand it.
From the bridge in front it´s farm nr 3. Eivind Olmhus was sitting in the 2. white painted house to the right when he replayed here. The red painted house, a log cabin, to the right, is the Stabbur from 1833 that was mentioned, the date 1833 is most liklely carved above the entrance or in the gable, sometimes including the carpenters signature. The Stabbur was where the owners kept the smoked, salted or dried meat or fish, flour, furn and clothes, almost everything of value.
The foundation of the Stabbur is always made of big stones, the firts logs had a special construction including poles so mouses and rats couldn´t enter the building, the stairs was placed about on foot from the door. It was strictly forbidden to place any tools, poles etc. to the wall (could make a entrance for the pests)
It was actually one farm, but the contract "Føderaad" secured the parents free suplies as long as they lived. Since this was counted as two farms in the 1865 census some land likley followed the contract so they could supply themselves. I have seen contracts like that several times, the seller made the conditions of the purcase. When they were gone this was the owner´s property.
Kåre
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2009 : 20:06:46
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John, I thought I was answering Ray, sorry for the mistake.
The Klemmentsrud History is a beautiful, informative website I will look better into. Thanks.
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Ray Syverson
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 29/04/2009 : 14:06:53
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Kåre, Thanks for the explanation of the Stabbur building.The photo was shot from upstream of the river, so faces somewhat southeast. I am in contact with John my new cousin. Thanks, Ray |
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