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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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 Posted - 29/05/2009 : 07:48:52
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Here is Dina in census-1900.
See topics Hansen & Grotterod
the parents of this Dina are listed as Hans Hansen and Samueline Hansen (Samueline Margrethe Pedersen as the mother of Alvilde born 1876) - what is the proof that the two Dinas are one and the same?
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Edited by - eibache on 29/05/2009 07:50:57 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 29/05/2009 : 08:15:30
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Originally posted by eibache
quote:
Here is Dina in census-1900.
See topics Hansen & Grotterod
the parents of this Dina are listed as Hans Hansen and Samueline Hansen (Samueline Margrethe Pedersen as the mother of Alvilde born 1876) - what is the proof that the two Dinas are one and the same?
There is no proof of that, but Jens Hansen who lives in the same household is a brother of Jørg Henry. Initially I added a comment about a different mother listed, but I must have accidentally removed that comment.
I thought maybe that Ottelie was dead and that Hans had re-married. But then Dina says in the 1912 emigration that her mother lives in Drammen...
So I later added a comment if their parents was divorced...
The 1900-cenus could be a different Dina, but it sure looks like her. After all, it is the right one that died in Oct 1974 in Marquette, MI.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 29/05/2009 : 10:44:38
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I do not think Dina Hansen = Dina Johanne Hansen,
Dina Johanne #56 and Jørg Henry #73 have the same parents, father Hans Olaf Hansen is #126 born 1853.
Dina Hansens parents Hans Hansen and Samueline Margrethe Pedersen were married Dec 5 1873, see #48 The father Hans Hansen was born Febr 2 1850.
Baptismal record for Dina Hansen not found so far.
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Alan King
Medium member
Australia
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Posted - 30/05/2009 : 08:55:15
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To all who have helped and are still helping,
My wife is "over the moon" at all the info that has been posted. 1st of all Dina Johanne Hansen b. 15 Oct 1890 Tonsberg & Bapt 2 Nov 1890 Notteroy is the sister to Jorg Henry & (Andreas) Barth (Thom) , parents did divorce, father died at sea & mother did remarry in 1899, (earlier postings) both boys were fostered out to the farm "Lofterod & Skjerve Nedre" in the 1900 census. Dina was with the family Hans Hansen & Samueline Margrethe. On going to America she does name Jens as her brother and on her marriage to Ernest Sorenson she names Peter Hansen as her father & Mary Hansen as her mother. Having been brought up with this family she may not have known any better. There were plenty of letters between her brother Barth and his daughter Joan & her family over the years. My wife also has cards and a photo of Dina. Dina had 2 children Marion & Carl. Family believe Carl died young after an operation do not know any thing about Marion. Wife's aunt has been no help although we believe she may know.
Letters are now being written to names supplied and hopefully correspondence will continue,
Once again on behalf of my wife and myself a big THANK YOU.
Anton a special thanks for he phone call made.
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Alan King
Medium member
Australia
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Posted - 09/06/2009 : 09:06:33
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Hi to all,
Great News, we have heard back from Doris Nygren's youngest daughter, Julie. She has given us some info and another mystery which we hope she will enlarge on. Jorg & Barth had a half sister Ingebord, (she had a daughter Astrid who married a Bekke and had at least one son Bernt) either from Hans 1st marriage to Clara Kristensen or Otilie's 2nd marriage to Sigurd Hansen or some other possibility we are yet to find out. As soon as we know we will update.
Once again thanks to all for your help especially to Anton for that phone call.
Alan & Jillian. |
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Alan King
Medium member
Australia
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Posted - 21/06/2009 : 05:04:05
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Hi to all,
Have had contact with cousins in America and Norway. They do not have a lot of information on the past.
Believe I may have found Ingeborg's birth. Ingeborg Marie Viktoria born 21 June 1889, Notteroy, mother Otilie Hansen Olafsen, father Kristen Sorensen. The information runs into the gutter of the page. Would someone be kind enough to give me all the details. Also I cannot find her on the 1900 census. If this is the daughter mentioned and Dina is born after this 15th October 1890, Mother Otilie & Father Hans, it raises another question when did Otilie & Hans divorce. Once again any help appreciated.
Alan & Jillian
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 21/06/2009 : 07:32:43
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Ingeborg Marie Viktorias parents
"Kone Othilie Hansen f. Olafsen
Ung Kontorbet. (Batchelor Clerk) Kristen Sørensen fra Melsomvig i Stokke |
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Alan King
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Posted - 21/06/2009 : 10:43:39
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Einar,
Thanks for the quick response. We will now know where to look.
Alan |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 21/06/2009 : 11:22:21
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When Dina arrived New York in 1912, she list her closest relative as "Mother: Mrs O. Olavsen, Drammen"
 
Jan Peter
ps: I could not find the listing of her marriage, so I'll put it up here:
Hans Olaf Hanssen, born 07 OCT 1851. His father: Jens Jorgen Hanssen
Otilie Olafsen, born 27 NOV 1865. Her father: Andreas Edvard Olafsen
Marriage: 08 FEB 1885, Tønsberg, Vestfold |
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Alan King
Medium member
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Posted - 21/06/2009 : 12:12:50
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Jan,
Thanks for your input. Is there any way we can find the year of divorce for Hans & Otilie? Any one who can help would be appreciated.
One other question with Ingeborg's birth was she listed as out of wedlock? Have a dictionary but cannot find the word.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 21/06/2009 : 13:01:04
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Yes, she is listed as born out of wedlock. (listed as uægte)
Mother is listed as "married woman", father is listed as "bachelor".
Not sure where (or if) divorce records can be found.
Jan Peter |
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Alan King
Medium member
Australia
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Posted - 22/06/2009 : 03:53:23
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Once again thanks. Being intouch with relations in Norway, we believe they may have old letters that may help with further research. Ingeborg married an Anders Smerud, do not know where at the moment. Astrid 95 years & Kjell 86 years are 2 of their children still alive.
Will keep in touch with any more info that may help others.
Alan. |
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Alan King
Medium member
Australia
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Posted - 27/06/2009 : 10:17:25
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Trying to help fill in the background of Ingeborg for her relatives. Cannot find the birth or any other information on her father Kristen Sorensen. Any leads appreciated.
Alan. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 27/06/2009 : 11:04:21
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Have not found any lead to Melsomvig in Stokke, Vestfold, but could it be this one?
Kristen Anton Karlsen
Born: 01 Mar 1864
Chr: 28 Mar 1864, Nøtterøy, Vestfold
Parents: Karl Sørensen Ormelet & Helene Sørensdr
Source: Vestfold county, Nøtterøy, Parish register (official) nr. I 6 (1852-1864), Birth and baptism records 1864, page 188.
Census-1865 Census-1900
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Alan King
Medium member
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Posted - 27/06/2009 : 11:26:54
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Jan,
Could be, we have no other information other than whats on Ingeborg's birth.
Alan. |
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Jorg (Georg) Hansen
