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KimConnerSchmitt
Junior member
USA
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 Posted - 08/05/2009 : 17:03:10
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I found my ancestors on the list which tells thier first stop was Hull. Then last was Chicago Illinios. I'm trying to find what was their connecting ship that brought them to the states. Their Departure was from Christianaon May22,1868. Their family was Niels Olsen,Hellene Hansdatter Olsen,Mauritz ,Ovidia,and Nora. If anybody can help me hear that would be great. Thanks Kim |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2009 : 19:04:58
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Hi,
your folks arrived New York on June 8th, 1868, sailing from Liverpool.
Indexed names at Ancestry.com:
Helene Ohlsen
Maurty Ohlsen
Ovida Ohlsen
Nora Ohlsen
Niels could be indexed as either Petre Ohlsen or Wilheim Ohlsen...
Not sure of the name of the ship...
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Edited by - jwiborg on 08/05/2009 19:05:35 |
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
1100 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2009 : 19:28:30
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The ship was the City of Boston operated by the Inman Line:
http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_shiplist.asp?co=inman
Their travel would have been more comfortable, not like the early sailing ships. They were listed as being on the Main Deck.
There are also other pictures of the City of Boston on Norway Heritage. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2009 : 04:58:00
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The passenger list is
Wilhelm Ohlsen 30
Helene Ohlsen 28
Maurty Ohlsen 4
Ovida Ohlsen 5
Henreitta 0
Nora 1 |
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KimConnerSchmitt
Junior member
USA
66 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2009 : 16:07:29
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Thanks to everyone who helped with the research on the Olsen family. I do find it intresting that Niels changed his name during the vogage to Wilhem and then back to
Niels when he was in Minneasota. Kim |
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
1100 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2009 : 19:50:08
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Have you found his birth record, his middle name may have been Wilhelm or it just could have just been a mistake made by the person making up the Custom Lists. There would be no reason for him to change his name just for a voyage.
These passenger lists were done to present to customs at the first port of entry, there were 899 passengers on this voyage, a 1% error ratio would be an incorrect listing of 9 passengers. I am sure no one at the time could have imagined how people use them now.  |
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KimConnerSchmitt
Junior member
USA
66 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2009 : 20:27:05
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Hi,
Ithought it might be a type error too. But also heard sometimes when people made it to the states they change their names. And at the time he might of changed it. His birth record only recorded as Niels Olsen. No mention of a middle name. Thanks Jo Anne !!
Kim |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2009 : 23:07:25
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Does the original manifest really say Wilhelm Ohlsen?
Or is this an error made by the transcriber?
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2009 : 02:49:38
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| The orginal manifest as veiwed using Ancestry.com to access it shows his name as Whilheim Ohlsen. The manifest is 17 pages long and he and his family are on page 9. It is ceertainly possible that the person making up this original manifest got his name wrong but it is truly listed as Wilheim.. The rest of the family is correct but there is also a child named Hennrietta that is shown in the manifest age 0 that is not mentioned anywhere in this posting. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2009 : 03:17:12
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Searching the Ancestry.com under Immigration using Ohlsen and 1868 as the search fields turns up the following people for June 8, 1868.
Petre Swedish born abt 1829
Wilheim Norwegian born abt 1830
Lustren Swedish born abt 1832
Helene Norwegian born abt 1840
Maurty Norwegian born abt 1861
Ovida Norwegian born abt 1863
Henreitta Norwegian born abt 1865
Nora Norwegian born abt 1867
Pehr Swedish born abt 1867
This differs slightly in that I intrepreted the age of Henrietta in the orginal manifest as 0 but the transcriber read it as 3 which probably makes more sense.
Clicking on each individual name shows two families the Swedish one on page 12 consisting of Petre, wife Lustre and son Pehr.
And the Norwegian one on page 9 of Wilheim, Helene and above children. |
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KimConnerSchmitt
Junior member
USA
66 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2009 : 15:09:31
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I forgot to mention Henriette!! The Olsen family looks ok accept for wilheim. But the ages are slightly off. Niels should be 38 and Hellene should be 28, Mauritz the oldest, then Ovidia, ,Henrietta,and Nora the baby. Nora was bornj ust before they left Elverum and baptised May16,1868 then a week later they lefy christiania for america.
What is the Norwiegan Name for WILHIEM? Could it be Niels? |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2009 : 15:31:05
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The indexed age for Niels (Wilheim) is about right ie 38, the age I gave off of the original manifest as 30 could be 38. I am trying to decipher the handwriting of whomever wrote the orginal manifest and what looked like 30 to me, could just as easily be 38. Just as the 3 for Henreitta looke like a 0 when I first read it, the 30 that I read could be a 38.
I would doubt that Niels and Wilhelm are the same name, a more likely explanation is that the person making out the manifest got the name wrong or mixed up with another passenger. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2009 : 15:43:47
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| Have you looked at the image of the manifest on Ancestry.com. If not do you have access to Ancestry.com through some library etc. If you do I can easily direct you to the easiest area to search to find the orginal manifest. If not Ancestry.com does allow me to share the image with another person. I can do that if you are interested in seeing the orginal document and have not already seen it. |
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KimConnerSchmitt
Junior member
USA
66 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2009 : 16:30:07
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| Yes I would be Intersted in the original document on Ancestory. com That would be great.!! I don't usuually get to the library but once a month down at the Iowa histirical center. They have the Library version verses the home version. So either way would be greatand would help me out a lot. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2009 : 18:32:05
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OK, what you need to do is to put an e-mail address into your profile so that when I click on your name there is something in the contact information. Click on my name lyndal40 and you will see a contact e-mail. While I have never had a problem with junk mail or spam at that address it is always a good idea to use an e-mail address you do not care about such as g-mail or yahoo. I ran a trial this morning and sent a copy of the image to myself at my yahoo e-mail address and it worked quite well.
When you have established an e-mail address in your profile, post that you have done that and I will forward a copy of the image, I can also do the first page which has the ship information. |
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KimConnerSchmitt
Junior member
USA
66 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2009 : 19:10:25
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| I will use my home Email address at htis time. Everything is set. Thanks KIM |
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S/S Argo 1 Connection 1868
