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Anne Brit Benum
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 Posted - 08/07/2009 : 20:22:01
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The above-mentioned is the illegitimate daughter of my grandmother's aunt Barbro Eriksdaughter. This Ragnhild came as a surprise - we have looked for Ragnhild Iversdaughter Einang, who was Barbro's legitimate daughter.
What I have found out about the illegitimate daughter, is that she was born in Røn, Vestre Slidre, Oppland, on January 12, 1865. Her father is mentioned as a Halvor Knutsen. Ragnhild was baptized in Slidre January 29, 1865, and her confirmation took place in the same county on May 23, 1880. She left Norway via Oslo/Kristiania on the Angelo on April 18, 1888, 23 years old. The ship was set for New York.
I do not know what happened to Ragnhild Halvorsdaughter Einang. Did she arrive in New York? Is it possible to trace her after that?
Yours sincerely,
Anne Benum
in Oslo
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 08/07/2009 : 20:49:58
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The following record is found in acestry.com. The transcriber read the name and age his way as you can see, but a carefull reading of the name in the original looks to me to be Ragnhild H Einang age 23.
Kajinald H Einang
Arrival Date: 4 May 1888
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Age: 33
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Place of Origin: Norway
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Norwegian
Ship Name: Gallia
Search Ship Database: View the Gallia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York
Line: 44
Microfilm Serial: M237
Microfilm Roll: M237_518
List Number: 558
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
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Anne Brit Benum
Senior member
Norway
260 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2009 : 21:26:37
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Fine! Because the transcriber is 10 years ahead of the original dates if his version is right - because, as I said in my entry, she was born in January 1865 and was 23 when she left Oslo.
Thank you. That was a step further on about her.
Hilsen Anne |
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
1100 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2009 : 01:53:20
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This seems to be her:
1900 census, Galesburg, Trail County, North Dakota
Ragnhild Kvam, born Jan. 1865, immigrated 1891
Married 8 years, no children
Husband is Mathias Kvam, born Norway June 1866, farmer, immigrated 1878
1910 census, Galesburg
Mathias Kvam, farmer, immigrated 1879, farmer
Ragnild, immigrated 1890, no children
1920 census, Galesburg
Matt Kovam, born Norway, immigrated 1879
Ragna, wife, 52, born Norway
William, son, 22, born North Dakota (no mention of him in prior census), he may have been a nephew, there was a Hans Kvam in Galesburg at the same time.
Myrtle, 11, adopted, born Colorado
North Dakota Online Death Index (just google it)
Ragnild Kvam, died July 18, 1826, Trail County
Born January 12, 1865
Matt Kvam is included in the book “Footsteps across the Prairie on page 260:
http://files.usgwarchives.net/nd/traill/history/galesbrg.txt
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 09/07/2009 : 04:32:18
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Here is the 1900 US Census Record that Jo Anne found.
Ragnhild Kuam
[Ragnhild Knam]
Home in 1900: Galesburg, Traill, North Dakota
Age: 34
Birth Date: Jan 1865
Birthplace: Norway
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1891
Relationship to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Mother: number of living children: 0
Mother: How many children: 0
Spouse's Name: Mathias
Marriage Year: 1892
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 8
Residence : Norman & Galesburg Townships, Traill, North Dakota
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 09/07/2009 : 04:45:14
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Here she is in the 1910 US Census. William is listed as a boarder.
Name: Ragnild Kvam
Age in 1910: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Spouse's Name: Mathias
Home in 1910: Galesburg, Traill, North Dakota
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Female
Year of Immigration: 1890
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mathias Kvam 43
Ragnild Kvam 44
William Kvam 12
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 09/07/2009 : 04:58:27
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Jo Ann's candidate is the best fit for the 1900 US Census. A search under Ragnhild, born in Norway 1865 +/- 2 years and immigraed in 1889 +/- 2 years turns up only four persons.
Ragnhild O Fone Less Boston Ward 23, Suffolk, Massachusetts Dec 1865 Norway White Wife
View Record
Ragnhild Kuam Mathias Galesburg, Traill, North Dakota Jan 1865 Norway White Wife
View Record
Ragnhild Sandba? Ken G?F* Lillehoff, Ramsey, North Dakota Dec 1863 Norway White Wife
View Record
Raguhild Stockstad
[Ragnhild Stockstad] Andrew Sherman, Sargent, North Dakota May 1867 Norway White Wife
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 09/07/2009 : 05:50:09
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Hi,
Here is the marriage of Ragnhild and Matthias Kvam from the traill county marriages on usgenweb.com
Kvam, Mathias O. Bakken, Ragnild Jorgensen 13 Dec 1890 book 1, page 31
ND death index online:
STOCKSTAD, RAGNILD 07/24/1949 Sargent FEMALE 82 Years 05/06/1867 North Dakota Sargent
If Ragnhild can't be found as Ragnild, Rose is sometimes substituted.
Hilsen,
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Anne Brit Benum
Senior member
Norway
260 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2009 : 08:20:28
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Gosh - so many Ragnhilds! Thank you. I am just wondering: The Ragnhild Kvam who is mentioned several times in your answers: She left Norway in April 1888 - the emigrant-protocols are clear on that. How come her immigration-date is given as later - can she have given this information herself?
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 09/07/2009 : 16:49:27
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Anne, yes she or someone in that household would have given the date to the census taker. So she or another person could have given incorrect information or the census taker could have writtten it down incorrectly. Or the information could be correct and none of the many Ragnhilds we have located are your Ragnhild. It would appear form the information that Jackie has provided in her post that Ragnhild Kvam is probably not your Ragnhild since it appears that her maiden name is Jorgensen not Halvorsdatter or Halvorsen or Einang as we would expect it to be.
Again as for Kari Nilsdatter we are trying out each of the possible Ragnhilds hoping to find one where all of the data fits what you know about Ragnhild. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 09/07/2009 : 16:55:29
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| A search using the spelling Ragnild and the same search parameters as used above for 1900 US Census does not turn up any good candidates. Three people turn up but none born in 1865. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 09/07/2009 : 16:57:33
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| A search using the spelling Rose and the same search parameters as used above for the 1900 US Census does not turn up any good candidates. Two people turn up but none born in 1865. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 09/07/2009 : 17:31:37
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Hi Anne,
In days gone by, the census taker would visit each home and write the responses to the questions on the schedules. Since her (transcribed)marriage record shows her marriage date as 1890, if that record is correct, then she must have been there in Traill county by 1890, regardless of the dates for immigration in the 1900 census as 1891. People's memories can be faulty, the census taker's hearing can be faulty, and the census taker could have written incorrectly etc. Lots of reasons for a census record to be only a version of the truth.
On the other side a transcribed record (like the marriage record) has several opportunities to go wrong as well. The original record may have been written in such a way as to defy interpretation, then the "collector" of the data may have recorded the data incorrectly or in a way which defied interpretation; or the the typist who put the e file together could have made a typo. Lots of ways for a transcribed record to be incorrect.
Ragnhild is a name which could be spelled many different ways. I've seen Ragna, Ragnild, Rogneil, Raneil, Raynel and then the name could have been transformed into a close English version like Rose or some such. On the marriage record her name was given as Ragnild Jorgenson Bakken. Is there any reason to think your Ragnhild might have carried her name like that?
And even though she came to US in 1888 or so, she might very well have been dead by the time of 1900 census. That record is a convenient one to begin with, since it covers the nation.
Lykke til
Jackie M.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 09/07/2009 : 17:58:42
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Hi,
And maybe she never left New York. No age given for her...
From the Itallian Genealogical Group's database:
Halvorsen Ragnhild Jul 29 1900 4715 Kings H416
She married William Holcomb.
Hilsen,
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Anne Brit Benum
Senior member
Norway
260 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2009 : 18:07:07
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You are all so kind helping me with so much information. I think that a few of the dates are correct, but her father's name was definitely Halvor. Jackie: you could be right about her never leaving New York. Do you think it would be possible to trace eventual descendants from the marriage you mention?
Mange hilsener fra
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 09/07/2009 : 20:45:34
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Here is Ragnhild Holcomb in the 1910 US Census, while the date of immigration looks good at 1889, the birth year based on the age of 38 of 1872 is quite a bit off.
: Ragnhild M Holcombe
[Ragnhild M Holcomb]
Age in 1910: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Spouse's Name: William F
Home in 1910: Brooklyn Ward 22, Kings, New York
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Female
Year of Immigration: 1889
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William F Holcombe 41
Ragnhild M Holcombe 38
Henry Holcombe 18
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