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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 05/08/2009 : 02:55:11
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Some time ago the group helped me with some information on Lars Sorenson, see 1801
Using his age from the census and estimating his birth year as1766, I was not able to find his birth record in the parish records for Bjelland, Vest-Agder for either the year 1765 or 1766. Am I looking in the wrong place or did I just miss it. |
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Lislcat
Advanced member
USA
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Posted - 05/08/2009 : 05:00:37
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I think these are a good possibility for Lars Sørensen and his brother Gunlev. Have you seen these LDS records? Do a search for the Gunlev record that I listed and there is a pedigree chart. See if it matches your records. I haven't found Lars in the Audnedal records, yet. Maybe someone else will.
Lars SØRENSEN Compact Disc #117 Pin #667646 Pedigree
Sex: M
Event(s)
Birth: 1766
Grindheim, Audnedal, Vest-Agder, Norge
Parents
Father: Søren GUNLEVSEN Disc #117 Pin #667645
Mother: Oslou PEDERSDATTER Disc #117 Pin #667681
Notes and Sources
Notes: None
Sources: Available on CD-ROM Disc# 117
Submitter
Johanne T. HERNES
Reistadlia 36 3425 Reistad
Submission Search: 3198494-0711105113630
URL:
CD-ROM: Pedigree Resource File - Compact Disc #117
CD-ROM Features: Pedigree View, Family View, Individual View, Reports, Downloadable GEDCOM files, Notes and Sources.
Order Pedigree Resource File CD-ROMS
Gunlev SØRENSEN Compact Disc #117 Pin #667640 Pedigree
Sex: M
Event(s)
Birth: 1752
Grindheim, Audnedal, Vest-Agder, Norge
Parents
Father: Søren GUNLEVSEN Disc #117 Pin #667645
Mother: Oslou PEDERSDATTER Disc #117 Pin #667681
Marriage(s)
Spouse: Susanna KNUDSDATTER Disc #117 Pin #667641
Marriage: abt 1787
Grindheim, Audnedal, Vest-Agder, Norge
Notes and Sources
Notes: None
Sources: Available on CD-ROM Disc# 117
Submitter
Johanne T. HERNES
Reistadlia 36 3425 Reistad |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/08/2009 : 07:15:12
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| I believe you have been searching in the right place. I have found the yougest children of Gunlev, but not the oldest ones and his marriage. The reason we can't find Lars is hard to explain. |
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hasto
Senior member
Norway
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Posted - 05/08/2009 : 11:59:36
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| I guess also Peder Sørensen on Vårdal is a brother. And also with him I have not foud the baptism of the three eldest children, or his birth or marriage. |
Harald S Storaker
4586 Korshamn, Norge |
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hasto
Senior member
Norway
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Posted - 06/08/2009 : 01:25:53
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Øvre Øydna belongs to Grindheim parish. I looks like the church books for Grindheim before 1792 are missing. The information found in LDS IGI I guess is from Grindheim bygdebok, or based on probate records.
The Bjelland church records (1753-1792) do not list people from Grindheim, except a few in the confirmation records. |
Harald S Storaker
4586 Korshamn, Norge |
Edited by - hasto on 06/08/2009 01:29:18 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 06/08/2009 : 03:16:54
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It might be reasonable to check the book "Grindheim", by Magnus Breilid.
The LDS Family History Library catalog lists that Grindheim parish records are included with Bjelland for years as early as 1727 but they don't discuss in any detail if any records might be "missing". |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2009 : 04:51:23
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| I have access to the Grindheim book by Magnus Breilid and most of my data comes from that book. However it is quite sparse on dates, either birth, baptismal or marriage dates. The LDS IGI listing has dates that are not found in the Grindheim book. For example under the entry for Gundlef Sørenson in the Grindheim book there is no data on his birth year.Yet the LDS has data ie birth year of 1752 not found in the Breilid book. When pursuing the parish records it does seem that the sections for the year are rather short and thus maybe missing some amount of data. |
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hasto
Senior member
Norway
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Posted - 06/08/2009 : 23:01:19
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The LDS IGI information is probably plainly calculating birth year from the age in 1801 census. The parents names Søren Gunlevsen and Oslou Pedersdatter are what I would have guessed considering the names of the grandchildren. But I guess LDS IGI base their information on some probate records.
PS Do you know the Norwegian country singer Bjøro Håland? He is a descendant of Knud Gunlevsen, b. 1790. Søren Børufsen Håland, b, 1863, was the grandfather of Bjøro Håland 1865 census |
Harald S Storaker
4586 Korshamn, Norge |
Edited by - hasto on 06/08/2009 23:07:36 |
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Lislcat
Advanced member
USA
690 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2009 : 00:16:42
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| Lyndal40, do you happen to have a Søren Jonasen, Siri Kristensdatter and their son Jonas Sørensen, b. Jan 1813, in your line? I'm just curious, since Jonas Sørensen was my 3rd great grandmother's second husband. I may have to get the Grindheim book to see if it has any info on them. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/08/2009 : 03:48:25
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I had not heard of the Norewegian country singer named Bjøro Håland. I can find Knud Gunlevsen in the Øvre Øydne section of the Grindheim book. He married Berte Olsdatter Håland and then disappears from the Øvre Øydne section. But a quick look would indicate that we both descend from Knut Ødne one of the early names associated with Øvre Øydne.
I did Google him and listened to some short sections of his songs. He sounds quite authentic and one could eaisly see him cutting a CD with Wille Nelson. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2009 : 03:58:18
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Lisicat
I am not aware of a Søren Jonasen in my family line. Also I did not see his name in the Øvre Øydne section of the Grindheim book. I have only copied two sections of the book, the section on Øvre Øydne and the section on the farm Butveit. Those are the only two sections in the Grindheim book that contain ancestral family. Does your family come from the Agder section of Norway. |
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kathyzeien
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Posted - 07/08/2009 : 04:05:59
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Hi Harold,
Not to get off topic but the singer you mentioned has performed at the Hostfest in Minot, North Dakota. The Hostfest is billed as the largest Scandinavian Festival in the United States. It is held every fall and a huge hit. |
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Lislcat
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2009 : 16:10:43
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Wanda, thanks for the link. From that link it is clear that our ancestors did inhabit much the same area in Norway, that is the Agder region and most specifically the Åmli area of Aust-Agder.
I noticed in your posting that someone had posted a picture of the Mykland Church. My gandmother Ingeborg Tellefsdatter Frigstad #15 was baptized in that church.
Small world indeed. |
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hasto
Senior member
Norway
294 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2009 : 01:44:17
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You are closer than that: Søren Jonassen married to the farm Breili, he came from Butveit, same farm as Lars Sørensen married to (to Asber Olsdatter).
Søren Jonassen Butveit, marriage 1798
Asber Olsdatter Butveit marriage 1803
Thore (Christensen) Butveit was a witness in baptism 1799
and also a witness in baptism 1804
Søren Jonassen and Asber Olsdatter were neighbours. I don't know if they were related. |
Harald S Storaker
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Lislcat
Advanced member
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690 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2009 : 07:06:06
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Takk Harald,
I was just going to post, that Søren Jonasen was from Vest-Agder. His wife was from the Mykland area, but her first husband was also from Vest-Agder. I thought that they might be related, because from what I could tell, they would of been from the same area. I just had a feeling that since both were Søren/Sørensen that they may be related, if they had lived that close.
Takk igjen, Wanda |
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Birth date for Lars Sorenson
