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dwssnell
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 Posted - 12/08/2009 : 08:43:47
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| Is there any more information on the ship Bjorgvin, May 25 1850-July 15, 1850? #11 just says "Britte" age 26. I am looking for a Britha Knudsdatter (Brunborg), age 26, that would have possibly left Voss that year. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 12/08/2009 : 09:22:56
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Britha did leave Voss April 23 1850, see #195 on right page - #194 is her husband, both from Skutle.
she was born Jan 22 1824, see #18 her parents were Knud Olsen Brunborg and Kari Larsdatter.
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Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 13/08/2009 10:21:30 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 12/08/2009 : 15:27:19
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The electronic 'spreadsheet' for that passenger list on this website probably lists all the information that was available on the original since that is the accepted practice for transcribing old records. The transcriber has given the source they used at the top of the page, and that appears to have been a microfilm of the US National Archives. The same original passenger list for that ship's arrival in New York would be available on FHL US/CAN Film #0175446 which you can order at any LDS Family History Center if you wish to double check that all information was correctly duplicated and included.
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Borge
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Posted - 12/08/2009 : 16:17:25
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| Being the transcriber of that list I can confirm what Hopkins have stated, there was no other information available on the passenger list for this person. I have a paper copy of the list and have double checked. The link eibache posted does not lead to the right page, but I checked the migration list from the parish, and it shows her leaving for North America. It is often helpful to look for other people departing from the same parish at the same time, to see if any of them correspond with the other people listed in the passenger list, as they often traveled in groups. |
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dwssnell
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Posted - 12/08/2009 : 17:58:23
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| Thank you so much to each of you for your replies. That helps me immensely!! She was my great-grandmother,and she married Hans Hansen (Bolstad) in 1862 in Spring Prairie. My grandfather, their son John Hanson took the name Mestad as an adult and he had four daughters, the youngest my mother. I also have not found Hans Hansen's immigration, but he was on the 1860 census in Leeds, Columbia County, Wisconsin. He and Britha moved to Emmet County, Iowa where my grandfather was born in 1865. |
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dwssnell
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Posted - 12/08/2009 : 23:18:45
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| I see by the ship's list that the Bark Hermes left Lillesand on April 23, 1850 and arrived New York May 26, but no passenger list. Do the Utteflytte date and the ship's departure date usually coincide, or is there a lag. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 12/08/2009 : 23:40:49
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| Ancestry.com has a passenger list for the Hermes arriving on May 29, 1850. There were 126 passengers. Are you looking for a specific name. |
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Hopkins
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Posted - 13/08/2009 : 03:11:25
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What you spell as the 'Utteflytte' date is the date of leaving the home parish as recorded by the parish scribe (priest or klokker) - there should be some lag to account for travel to the port of departure.
utflyttede - moving from an area(moving out)
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dwssnell
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Posted - 13/08/2009 : 04:10:55
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Thanks again all. Yes, I did check the Hermes passenger list on Ancestry but I did not find Britha Knudsdatter. However, I did just find her on the transcribed Voss Utflyttede List with index, 1837-1864. On that list she is still #195 in 1850, and the name is given as "Bridta Knudsdatter, age 26, farm Skutle." If this is the same person she no longer lived at Brunborg in 1850.
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eibache
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Posted - 13/08/2009 : 06:53:08
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She was probably working as a servant on one of the 10 Skutle farms when she decided to emigrate. |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 13/08/2009 : 09:21:28
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Brita Knudsdatter Skutle age 25 married Niels Johannesen age 22 on June 26. 1849 #50
Emigration Voss April 23. 1850, Niels and Bridta, she is marked with a *, could mean she was born on another farm, see here
Did she married Hans Bolstad as a widow in 1862?
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eibache
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Posted - 13/08/2009 : 10:53:55
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Brithas first husband Niels Johannesen, Istad were confirmed Oct 9 1842, see #49 his parents were Johannes Nielsen and Hanna Kielsdatter. Niels was born April 11 1827 and baptized in Steigen parish in Nordland April 20, see .
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dwssnell
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Posted - 13/08/2009 : 20:30:27
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This is the confusing part. Britha Knudsdatter married Hans Hansen from Bolstad in 1862 in Leeds, Columbia, Wisconsin. Her parents were Knud Addsen and Kari Larsdatter of Voss.
However, she did have a son when she married Hans Hansen, and his name was Christopher. His birth was July 24, 1859, in Columbia, CO to maiden Britha Aadsdatter and bachelor John Christopersen. This was my grandfather's older half-brother Chris who changed his name to Hanson.
One genealogist at Vesterheim thought that the two Britha's are the same person and the name was recorded wrong for the birth. Another genealogist disputed that, saying that it was probably two different Britha's, possibly related, and that Britha Knudsdatter took the child to raise. None of this was ever confirmed.
But the Britha Knudsdatter Skutle is obviously not the right person if she was married in Norway. |
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eibache
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Posted - 13/08/2009 : 21:58:13
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This thread started with quote:
I am looking for a Britha Knudsdatter (Brunborg), age 26, that would have possibly left Voss that year.
My first posting confirmed that a Britha Knudsdatter did leave Voss in 1850 with the intention to emigrate to Amerika.
The listed farm name Brunborg was one piece of evidence that Britha was born to the parents Knud Olsen and Kari Larsdatter. When you say the parents were Knud Aadsen and Kari Larsdatter I take it as Aadsen was the americanized last name Olsen.
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His birth was July 24, 1859, in Columbia, CO to maiden Britha Aadsdatter and bachelor John Christopersen.
if this Britha was norwegian and norwegian name practice was followed, her father would have been an Aad (possibly Odd in norwegian) - this would then mean that there were two Brithas and it would be doubtful if Chris was the real halfbrother of your grandfather.
It is more than likely that Britha, who was married to Niels Johannesen just before they left Voss, is the one you are looking for. You should do some more checking of the time between Brithas arrival in USA and the marriage to Hans Hansen Bolstad. (This is a time span of 12 years!) |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 13/08/2009 : 22:31:05
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Norwegian naming can be confusing.
Einar,
Brita you found born on Brunborg 1824 born to Knud Olsen Brunborg and Kari Larsdatter is correct, her fathers name was wrongspelled Knud Olsen instead of Knud Aadsen.
Knud Aadsen Brunborg married Kari Larsdatter Nĉsheim in Evanger June 28. 1818 #14
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Kċarto
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Posted - 14/08/2009 : 09:22:19
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We can assume Brita Knudsadtter Skutle was wrong person.
I cant find Brita Knudsdatter Brunborg´s confirmation record, it should have about 1839 or later.
No emigration record for Brita is found in Voss.
Perhaps the family settled down in another parish.
I have an interseting migration here, we know wrongspellings exist.
Knud Oddsen was born on Brunborg 1791, he married Kari Larsdatter Nĉsheim 1818, Brita was born 1824.
Most likely Knud´s 5 years older brother brother Berge inherit Brunborg.
Knud Larsen Brunborg age 39 and Kari Larsdatter age 46 left Voss 1828 with 4 children, recorded June 16.1830.
Difficult to understad to what parish they went, right page #3-4
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Edited by - Kċarto on 14/08/2009 13:28:13 |
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Britte on the Bjorgvin, 1850
