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Dale Edman
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 03/09/2009 : 21:07:27
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I am new to this forum, but not new to genealogy. I have just started my search again in Norway for my great-grandparents and their ancestors.
This is a task that I have brought to a dead end many times over the past 15 years, but my recent efforts have been good.
I have been able to identify my ancestors with the help of the Digitized Church records and Census' that are in the Norway Digital Archives.
My search has now stopped at my great-great-grandfather Osmund Olsen Abesland b:1802 and his wife, Anne Jorgensdr. b: 18 Oct 1807 in Bjelland, Vest-Agder. They were married 13 Jun 1826 in Bjelland as well.
I have searched the records for Evje, Evje/Evje, Evje og Hornnes, and Evje/Vegusdal digitized records for Osmund's birth, but have had no luck. As always I search 1 year prior and 1 year after just in case the records that i collect are incorrect.
One of their sons, Nils Osmundson was born in Hodne Sogn, which I assume is Hodne sub-parish and not necessarily the Hodne farm, but I cannot pinpoint the location of Hodne other than the Hodne gard.
Another son, my great-grandfather, was born 15 Sept 1850 and christened 13 Oct 1850 in Evje, Aust-Agder.
So, based on naming conventions, it looked like the families originated from the southern part of Aust-Agder in the Hodne and Abusland areas of Evje og Hornnes, but I am having difficulty finding Osmund Olsen Abusland in the records.
Am I incorrect in my placement of these families or is this just one of those that did not get entered. Or, am I missing the correct parish?
Any thoughts or tips concerning this area in the early 1800's would be appreciated. Also, an info on the Abesland (Abusland) area would also be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Dale Edman Prior Lake, Minnesota USA |
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hasto
Senior member
Norway
294 Posts |
Posted - 03/09/2009 : 23:52:38
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His father Ole Osmundsen (28) and grandfather Osmund Olsen (54) on Abusland in 1801 census Abusland is west in Hornnes parish, close to the border of Bjelland in Vest-Agder map Marriage 20. Oct 1801 Hornnes church book Ole Osmundsen Abusdal and Anne Torgrimsdatter Tvedt Anne Torgrimsdatter (17) on Tveit, Hornnes in 1801 census
Confirmation 1818 nr 17 Osmund Olsen Abusland, born Aug 1803 Introduced (after a childbirth) 1803 Hornnes church book Ole Abusland's wife |
Harald S Storaker 4586 Korshamn, Norge |
Edited by - hasto on 04/09/2009 00:24:42 |
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Dale Edman
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 04/09/2009 : 00:25:27
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Thanks for the information. I greatly appreciate it.
I had forgotten about the 1801 census being available. Thanks for reminding me. It will come in handy for other research.
I had a copy Hornnes Churchbook image already but was not sure I was reading it correctly. Thanks for validating the information for me.
I have spent the afternoon trying to locate the Hodne farm. I see there is a site for the current Hodne gard online, but they do now show their exact location. I continue to search.
Thanks again Harald for your help. I really appreciate it. |
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hasto
Senior member
Norway
294 Posts |
Posted - 04/09/2009 : 00:38:29
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Nils nr 42 was born 4 Jun 1838 on Abusland. Abusland is a farm in Hornnes sogn in Evje prestegjeld. I guess Hodne sogn is a misspelling of Hornnes sogn. Where is the Hodne information from? |
Harald S Storaker 4586 Korshamn, Norge |
Edited by - hasto on 04/09/2009 00:42:00 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 04/09/2009 : 00:50:25
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Dale,
Another source for you is the Hornnes bygdebok. There is a copy at the University of Minnesota, Wilson Library, which is on the West Bank Campus. It is titled Hornnes by Olav O. Uleberg Filed under 948.12 H784 Ul2 v.1. n. In this book you will find Abusland - gardsnr. 31. On page 617, you will find VIII a. I. Åsmund Olson Abusland born 1803 married to Anne Jørgensdtr. Follows is a brief description of the children and a few other facts. More importantly the previous pages give the ancestry of Åsmund Olson Abusland.
A quick glance gives the line back to Ola Åsmundson Kalland Abusland born 1711 son of Åsmund Olson Abusland Kalland and Ingeborg Stiansdtr. It gets a little complicated at that point and I have not taken the time to push back further but you should be able to take the line back further with either this farm or the other farms in the bygdebok.
A complication is that the bygdebok only shows the following children. Anna 1827 Asborg 1830 Ola 1833 d 1834 Ola 1835 Mari 1841 d 1841 Mari 1842
It appears that Åsmund then sold the farm in 1843 and perhaps moved to another farm. It will take some digging to follow Åsmund from this point.
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hasto
Senior member
Norway
294 Posts |
Posted - 04/09/2009 : 01:03:04
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Kalland (= Kaddan) is 1 km east of Abusdal. |
Harald S Storaker 4586 Korshamn, Norge |
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Dale Edman
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 04/09/2009 : 01:08:41
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I looked back in my notes, and it appears the Hodne Sogne in fact came from a record I found in the LDS collection. It probably is a poor translation as you suggest.
I will continue on the path of Abusland gard and its history.
Thanks again Harald.
quote: Originally posted by hasto
Nils nr 42 was born 4 Jun 1838 on Abusland. Abusland is a farm in Hornnes sogn in Evje prestegjeld. I guess Hodne sogn is a misspelling of Hornnes sogn. Where is the Hodne information from?
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Dale Edman
Starting member
USA
22 Posts |
Posted - 04/09/2009 : 01:10:59
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quote: Originally posted by lyndal40
Dale,
Another source for you is the Hornnes bygdebok. There is a copy at the University of Minnesota, Wilson Library, which is on the West Bank Campus. It is titled Hornnes by Olav O. Uleberg Filed under 948.12 H784 Ul2 v.1. n. In this book you will find Abusland - gardsnr. 31. On page 617, you will find VIII a. I. Åsmund Olson Abusland born 1803 married to Anne Jørgensdtr. Follows is a brief description of the children and a few other facts. More importantly the previous pages give the ancestry of Åsmund Olson Abusland.
A quick glance gives the line back to Ola Åsmundson Kalland Abusland born 1711 son of Åsmund Olson Abusland Kalland and Ingeborg Stiansdtr. It gets a little complicated at that point and I have not taken the time to push back further but you should be able to take the line back further with either this farm or the other farms in the bygdebok.
A complication is that the bygdebok only shows the following children. Anna 1827 Asborg 1830 Ola 1833 d 1834 Ola 1835 Mari 1841 d 1841 Mari 1842
It appears that Åsmund then sold the farm in 1843 and perhaps moved to another farm. It will take some digging to follow Åsmund from this point.
THANKS for the information. I have never visited this library, even though I live about 20 miles from it.
Do they allow copying of the info or a scan? Scans would be much better but most only allow copying. I will ahve to look at their website and get familiar with it.
Thansk for the info. |
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Dale Edman
Starting member
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Posted - 04/09/2009 : 01:16:25
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quote: Originally posted by hasto
Nils nr 42 was born 4 Jun 1838 on Abusland. Abusland is a farm in Hornnes sogn in Evje prestegjeld. I guess Hodne sogn is a misspelling of Hornnes sogn. Where is the Hodne information from?
This is where my problems came in. I had found this page but I could not read the Abusland in the record until you told me what it says.
The info that I had from LDS was that Neils had been born at Hodne Sogn, and that is where my Hodne searches came from. AS you say, it is probably bad information.
Thanks
Dale
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 04/09/2009 : 03:13:05
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The Bygdebok on Hornnes is located on the third floor of the Wilson Library. After you find the pages of interest to you, you can take the book to the Basement where there is a copy desk. They will make copies for you for a nominal fee. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 04/09/2009 : 03:40:38
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Looking at the pages I have from the Hornnes bygdebok on the Abusland farm you should be able to trace your ancestry back to Boruf Abusland born about 1590 |
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Dale Edman
Starting member
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Posted - 04/09/2009 : 04:44:53
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quote: Originally posted by lyndal40
Looking at the pages I have from the Hornnes bygdebok on the Abusland farm you should be able to trace your ancestry back to Boruf Abusland born about 1590
WOW. That would be wonderful.
Unfortuantely I am leaving town this weekend and will be gone for 10 days. :-(
Thanks for the info that everyone has offered. I really appreciate it. |
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Genpals2003
New on board
Netherlands
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Posted - 11/09/2009 : 16:31:29
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quote: Originally posted by Dale Edman
quote: Originally posted by lyndal40
Looking at the pages I have from the Hornnes bygdebok on the Abusland farm you should be able to trace your ancestry back to Boruf Abusland born about 1590
WOW. That would be wonderful.
Unfortuantely I am leaving town this weekend and will be gone for 10 days. :-(
Thanks for the info that everyone has offered. I really appreciate it.
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Genpals2003
New on board
Netherlands
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Posted - 11/09/2009 : 16:35:52
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I've a lot of Abusland from Evje/Horness in my familytree. Take a look here: http://tveit.tribalpages.com Regards |
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Dale Edman
Starting member
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Posted - 18/09/2009 : 16:43:25
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quote: Originally posted by Genpals2003
I've a lot of Abusland from Evje/Horness in my familytree. Take a look here: http://tveit.tribalpages.com Regards
tahnks for the info. I looked at the page for a short time, but I do not see any connections. Will look more closely when I have the time.
Thanks again. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 19/09/2009 : 18:13:39
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Dale,
As you can imagine over the past few hundred years there have been quite a large number of people associated with the Abusland farm. Looking hard at the Family Tree posted by Genpals2003, you can find Ola Tomasson Abusland born 1796, married Sissil Bertosdatr. Using the Horrnes Bygdebok you can find this person and his family on p 613. His family line can be traced back to Ivan (Iffuer) Abusland born around 1590 and as stated in the bygdebok probably the brother of the above mentioned Boruf Abusland. Thus his family line and yours do intersect but all the way back to 1600 where two probable brothers have the same unknown father. |
Edited by - AntonH on 19/09/2009 18:18:05 |
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