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eibache
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Posted - 01/11/2009 :  07:37:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Elisabeth Lindboms father Sven Andersson Lindbom, unknown birth, died May 25 1728. He was föllbesökare = tollbesøkare? (customs inspector) and is mentioned in the citizen censuses from 1692. He was married to Jacobina Lorentsdotter Brandt, born 1678 died Febr 15 1761.
Jacobias father was Lorents Brandt, a Danish lieutenant mentioned as citizen of Strömstad July 23 1686. His birth is not known but he died Jan 19 1715. In the census1691 - 94 års he is called vice mayor.
Lorents Brandts first wife was Elisabeth Lembvig, unknown birth, died 1686, in 1687 he married Anna Jakobsdotter Wejdemans, unknown birth, died 1702, who was widow after citizen and notary public Offe Olsson.

Einar
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Kåarto
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Posted - 01/11/2009 :  10:35:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi.
Its a lady asking for information about priest and schoolmaster Andreas Wallenius and his wife Magdalena Stufvart from Mariefred, they got 5 children.
She tells:
Per Wallenius born March 1734 is my husbands ancestor.
Per Wallenius occ. "Sjøtullbesøkare" Customs Inspector, settled down in Strømstad, married and lived there for the rest of his life.

Per Wallenius was likely born in Kærnbo and grew up in Mariefred because his father Andreas was "komminister" priest in both Kærnbo and Mariefred.
(To search for Kærnbo online you need the Swedish æ)

The following information she recieved comes from "Herdaminne" so it can be trusted will.

Info. will come after a short mountain walk.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 01/11/2009 18:24:20
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PaulaPope
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Posted - 01/11/2009 :  16:55:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All absolutely fascinating- I keep adjusting my family chart! The ships too- any idea of what was being traded?
How far back can you go? You've discovered so much -it's all amazing. Paula
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Kåarto
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Posted - 01/11/2009 :  18:23:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
to the mid 1500.
Per´s parents were Andreas Wallenius d 1748 in Mariefred-Kærnbo.
1712 schoolboy in Strængnæs, Sødermanland county, 1717 student in Uppsala, March 9. 1721 Priest in Strængnes and same year Pastor and teacher in in Viby in Østgøtaland County, 1723 Chapel preacher on Næmdø (an island), 1726 "komminister" in Vansø and from 1731 komminister and educator in Mariefred.
Married to Magdalena Margareta Stuart.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 01/11/2009 20:31:55
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Kåarto
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Posted - 01/11/2009 :  20:31:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The "family tree" is numbered with letters, f (father), m (mother) ff (fathers father),mf (mothers father), fm f (fathers mother father) , fm ff (fathers mother fathers father: the mothers grandfather, male line, etc
ff
Andreas Wallenius was born to Stephanus Nicolai Walenius born ab. 1653 in Nærke, d 1707 in Lænnes, 1668 schoolboy in Strængnæs, 1676 student in Uppsala University, Priest Sept. 29. 1677 in Strængnæs, 1678 military Priest and same year vice Kominister in Øja (an island) 1680 komminister (Priest) in Øja, 1695 "Kyrkoherde" Vicar in Lænns, married to

fm
widow Ebba Samuelsdatter Hallman d 1717, married 1. to Daniel Ternbom d 1680 in Øja, komminister from 1679 in Øja

mf
Carl Stuart, Lieutenant at Sødermanlands Regiment, place of living was Herrøkna in Gryt, Nærke married to
mm
Emma (Ebba) Bagghufvud.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 02/11/2009 00:01:26
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Kåarto
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Posted - 01/11/2009 :  22:57:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
fmf
Samuel Davidis Halmann b 1663 in Hardemo in Nærke d Jan. 19. 1709 and buried in the cemetery of Gøtlunda, 1648 schoolboy in Strængnes, 1655 student in Uppsala, 1656 priest in Strængnes and same year pastor adjunct in Hardemo, 1660 komminister and 1661 Vicar in Gøtlunda.

1705 Samuel Hallman got the king´s permission to leave the priesthood office to his son David because of high age and aching feet he had problems keeping church service.

A portrait of Samuel Hallman and his wife
fm m Brita Olsdatter
hangs in Gøtlunda church, see the two round gold frames here

The rest incluiding the Herdaminne link and others will come tomorrow.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 01/11/2009 23:51:55
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Kåarto
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Posted - 02/11/2009 :  13:31:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi.
fm f
Samuel Halman was born to:
fm ff
Davidis Francisci (Strengenensis) b in Strængenes, d June 11.1659 in Hardemo, 1608 Caplan in Jæder and 1608-1609 caplan in Årdala "forsamling" congregation in Sødermanlands County, from ab. 1613 Kominister in Hardemo and Vicar from 1617.
Married 1. time to
fm fm
Helena Birgersdotter. (married 2. time to Elin Olofsdotter, widow after Vicar Nicolaus Fax in Lerbæk)

David Fransiscis was born to
fm ff f
Frans Davidsson, "Norrlandsfiakare" Fiskerman from Northern Sweden,1556 citizen of Strængenes.

fm fm
Helena Birgersdotter was born to
fm fm f
Birgerus Johanis, b in Mosjø, d Mai 29. 1627 in Hardemo, Vicar in Mosjø 1575 and 1603 Vicar in Hardemo. Retired 1607 and left the office, retired as Emiritus, to his son in law abowe, Frans Davidson.
Birgerus Johanis married unknown, his motheres family came from Hardemo from whom he owned a part in Julsta (a farm?) in Hardemo. He married 2. time as a widower to Bengta Pedersdotter.

Kåre


Edited by - Kåarto on 02/11/2009 13:43:09
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Kåarto
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Posted - 02/11/2009 :  14:03:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Both the Stuart family and the Bagghuvud family where Swedish noble families.
The familyname Stuart sounded Scottis to me and this family tree came up.

I cannot vouch for the content, it seems reliable, from this we read that (Fredrik) Carl Stuart was a member of the Scottish House of Stuart and the Lord Stuart of Ochiltree, see almost down heading :
Scots and the Swedish Navy.
Click on the family tree above and compare Anders and Hans Stuart with the information here


Most of the information is coming from a discussion page from the Swedish genealgy assosiation Anbytaforum and a copy of Heradminne from the library, see down page here. The lady who asked was Ann-Maria Hansson
Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 02/11/2009 14:48:04
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PaulaPope
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Posted - 02/11/2009 :  23:16:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for all this- am beginning to see the pathways you are following
Can you clarify:
1. Are Petter Vallenius (customs work 1688-1710) and Anders Vallenius (customs work 1713) from page 270 of the Swedish register related in to the main family line, ie Per Wallenius 1734-1775 and Andreas Wallenius the pastor & teacher who died 1748.
2. Do we know if Carl Stuart and Ebba Bagghufvud had a daughter called
Magdalena Margareta Stuvart?

Thank you for all your efforts.. Think I’ll have to learn Swedish..
Regards Paula
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Kåarto
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Posted - 03/11/2009 :  08:14:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I encouirage you to learn Swedish as well as the Scottish rolling rrrr´s.
I wish my PC had the Swedish letters Æ and Ø, it would have been much easier for me to serch for Swedish records.

Question 1:
It includes the main family line

The information is coming from the book Herdaminnel likely coming from kyrkoherde-Vicar/Priest (shortened Herda and minne (memory).

Every Swedish County has this book available in the librarys, 400-500 pages not online, its descriptions we find on the Web.

Herdaminne is a scientific person person historical refernce work that covers all priests in a County from the Middle Ages to now mentioning the full name, birth/death place and dates for the priest, parents, wife and children with occupations often including a portrait.

All information, in Swedish, about what Herdaminne covers can be found here

It includes a link to Strængnees parish (seems to be thousends of pages)

Question 2:
Magdalena Stuvart/Stuart was born to Lieutenant (Fredrik) Carl Stuart and Ebba Bagghuvud, a better overview family tree here

Back to the discusssing on Anbytaforum more than halfway down, author Margareta Bergquist, see abowe.
Hej Ann-Marie!
InformatIon about Anders Vallenius, wife and children exist on page 328 part 1 in Hagstøms Herdaminne for Strængnes "stift" parish:
married to Magdalena Stuart, daughter of Lieutenant Carl Stuart at Søderlandske Regiment and Ebba Baghuvud.

Carl Stuart was an ancestor after Andrew Stuart "The Good" 2. Lord of Ochiltree 1521-1601, descendant of Henry Stewart and Margaret Tudor.
The granddaughter Queen Mary 1. of Scotland from 1543-87 changed from Stewart to Stuart.

Kåre



Edited by - Kåarto on 03/11/2009 09:00:37
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PaulaPope
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Posted - 06/11/2009 :  01:02:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kåre -Thank you very much for all your work on this-have been back tracking the links and following how it all comes together.
Can you give me a link on to find out a bit more about Samuel Nilsson-Bahgghufvud pls? Also can you say what 'Ryttmästare' means pls?

Einar -Thanks for your info on Peter Kleen and Joen Engebretsson –just wondering if you know any more about Joen's parents/family
Sincerely Paula
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eibache
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Norway
6495 Posts

Posted - 06/11/2009 :  07:09:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
just wondering if you know any more about Joen's parents/family
- sorry, my posting on him starts with "Joen Engebretsson, unknown birth" - so that's it.

Einar
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Kåarto
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Norway
5861 Posts

Posted - 06/11/2009 :  09:27:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Paula,
an interesting family including "Bloody Mary", Queeen of Scotland.

Ryttmestera, Norwegian Rittmester was a militay officer in the cavalry, see here

I will try to look for more information about the Bagghuvud family for you, I have seen it spelled Bagghufvud (von Baggo)
If that is a suggestion or fact I don´t know right now.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 06/11/2009 12:10:04
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Kåarto
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Posted - 06/11/2009 :  10:02:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From this page, its a Canadian who have recived some documents from a Swedish cousin asking for the meaning ot the word adlad, see here.

Samuel Nilsson blev adlad Bagghufvud, nr 755.
The family is recorded in the protocols to the Swedish House og Lords as family 755

Samuel Nilsson was knighted by the king and given the name Bagghufvuvd (von Baggo).

Samuel Nilsson recieved the privilges of the nobilities because of conscientious service for the crown.

Kåre


Edited by - Kåarto on 06/11/2009 13:12:13
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Kåarto
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Posted - 06/11/2009 :  10:23:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Samuel Nilsson Bagghufvud married Sara Berling, mentioned 1683, died within 1686.

Sara´s parents was Olof Mårtensson Berling and Sara Larsdotter. Olof was hæradshøvding (Norwegian Sysselmann) in Bælinge, Frøsåkers, Åsunds and Simtuna (Simtuna was a congregation in Uppsala), see almost bottom here, author Benny Borgstrand (Bebo)

Hæradhøvding means he was the kings County commisioner.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 06/11/2009 13:12:37
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