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Rebecca Schmitt
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USA
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 Posted - 18/01/2010 : 22:27:57
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Hello, I'm inquiring about my great-grandparents; Ivar and Ingeborg Larsen. They came to the US from Norway around 1906-1910, separately. I was wondering where I can find more specific information as I cannot find these years for passengers on this website. If anyone could guide me in the right direction I'd greatly appreciate it.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 18/01/2010 : 22:56:03
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Hi Rebecca,
which city in the US did they live in? A US-census (1910, 1920 or 1930) could give an indication of their imigration year.
And if you provide some additional info about them (like approx. year of birth and possibly also from which area of Norway they came from), I'm positive you'll get some help here very soon... 
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Rebecca Schmitt
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Posted - 18/01/2010 : 23:11:01
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| They lived in Brooklyn, NY. and I'm guessing they were born around 1887-1890. I do know that they did not pass through Ellis Island. I don't know much else. Thanks. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 19/01/2010 : 01:00:30
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The best way to start a family history search is to gather all the information from the US that you can before you track back to Norway and the resources there.
The US censuses will tell you when they were each born and when they immigrated to the US. You should be able to figure out if they were married before or after they immigrated. All of those pieces of information are very very important to being able to find info in Norway.
How do you know that they didn't come through Ellis Island or the port of New York?
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wgnorway/good-queries.htm
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 19/01/2010 : 01:14:20
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You'll find a 20 yr old Ivar Larsen (born Norway) living in Queens, NY in the 1910 US census (living with family of sister and brother-in-law). He lists that he immigrated to the US in 1907 and he arrived through Ellis Island in that year.
There is more than one possible young Ivar Larsen arriving through Ellis Island in that time period. More information would be required to make a positive match.
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Rebecca Schmitt
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Posted - 19/01/2010 : 02:03:32
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| I know they didn't go through Ellis Island because I remember my grandmother telling me this. I don't believe Ivar lived in Queens, but there's a slight possibility. I know they didn't meet and marry until after they immigrated to the US. Thanks so much, you've been very helpful so far. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 19/01/2010 : 02:23:43
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In the 1920 US Census there are not many candidates. There is this one with names slightly different than the ones you gave. Can you tell me is this the correct family.
Name: Peter Ivar Larsen
[Peter Irar Larsen]
Home in 1920: Brooklyn Assembly District 18, Kings, New York
Age: 30 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Irigaboret
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1908
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 134
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Peter Ivar Larsen 30
Irigaboret Larsen 31
Ruth Larsen 2 0/12
Elsie Larsen 8/12
His occupation is listed as Lighter Captain of a Tug Co.
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Rebecca Schmitt
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Posted - 19/01/2010 : 02:32:56
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| Yes! Ruth Larsen is my grandmother! Thank you so much, this will be very helpful. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 19/01/2010 : 03:10:51
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This same Peter Ivar Larsen shows up in WWII Draft Registration living at 286 E. 42 Street, Brooklyn NY and married to Ingvord Larsen.
Name: Peter Ivar Larsen
Birth Date: 31 Jul 1889
Birth Place: Grimstad
Residence: Kings, New York
Race: White
Note that his birth place is given as Grimstad which could be Grimstad, Aust-Agder, Norway. Do you know where your grandparent Ivar was born. |
Edited by - AntonH on 19/01/2010 03:12:17 |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 19/01/2010 : 07:47:45
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Peter Ivar Larsen from Grimstad you found Anton was a deck boy when he emigrated from Kristiansand on the Thingvalla Line Sept. 27. 1907, dest was only stated as USA, see here.
He was bap. Petter Ivar August 18. 1889 in Grimstad, his father was shipmaster Peder Larsen who sailed in foreign trade.
The mother was Inga Marie Nielsen.
Peter Ivar had 6 siblings in 1900.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 19/01/2010 : 08:46:47
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Maybe it is of interest to know when Petter Ivars was born, it was July 31 1889, see #33.
and likewise the 1900 census.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/01/2010 : 08:56:31
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Petter Ivars mother, Inga Marie Nielsdatter was born Dec 10 1857, see #7, her parents were sailor Niels Christian Thobiasen and Nille Birgithe Pedersdatter, at Berge.
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 19/01/2010 : 13:29:13
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The man listed as Ivar Larsen in the 1910 US census (Queens NY) and as Peter Ivar Larsen in the 1920 US census (Brooklyn NY) is the same man.
In 1910 he lives with his married sister and she is a match to the sister found living in the parents household in Grimstad, Aust-Agder 1900 Norwegian census.
He arrived in the US through Ellis Island on or about 9 Oct 1907 on the ship C.F. Tietgen which had left from Christiansand, Norway. His brother-in-law and sister sailed on the same ship but were listed as already US citizens which matches with the immigration information listed for his sister in the 1910 US census (Queens NY).
The NY application for a marriage license between Ivar/Peter Ivar and his Norwegian born wife should be searched out. It should give information about at least the name of her father and probably information about where in Norway she was born. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/01/2010 : 15:31:27
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Here is a record of him but on the original manifest his name as well as a few others is crossed out with the words "not shipped" written next to the names. His is listed as a seaman and from Grimstad. There are several others travelling with him all listed from Aust-Agder addresses ie Froland and Arendal.
Name: Ivar Larsen
Arrival Date: 18 Sep 1907
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Age: 18
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Christianssand S, Norway
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Scandinavian
Ship Name: Hellig Olav
Search Ship Database: View the Hellig Olav in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
NATIVITY: Norway
His brother-in-law, Thomas Sigbjornsen directly below him also has a line through his name. |
Edited by - AntonH on 19/01/2010 16:04:35 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/01/2010 : 16:03:49
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Yes Hansen you are correct on the arrival date and ship. Here is the Ancestry.com record on his arrival in New York. The spelling of his name by the ships recorder made it a little difficult to find but he is again with his brother-in-law. As you can see the spelling of his name was not the only error.
Name: Ivar Lassen
Arrival Date: 9 Oct 1907
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Age: 18
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Christianssand, Norway
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Scandinavian
Ship Name: C F Tietgen
Search Ship Database: Search the C F Tietgen in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
NATIVITY: Worcestershire
Line: 23
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_1011
Birth Location: Worcestershire
Birth Location Other: greenstad
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Rebecca Schmitt
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Posted - 19/01/2010 : 18:21:28
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| Yes, I do remember my Grandmother telling me that Peter and his wife were born and raised in the same village( i now remember it to be Grimstad) but did not meet and marry until they were in Ny. Wow, thanks everyone for all the useful info. There must be a mix up though with the 1920 census for my great grandmother's name because I called a relative and I'm sure it's Ingeborg, I'm almost certain of the spelling. |
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