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eibache
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 Posted - 18/03/2010 : 16:14:24
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| For "Drammen", look in Bragernes and Strømsø/Strømsgodset, Buskerud. See the 1875 census. |
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Edited by - eibache on 18/03/2010 16:17:10 |
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eibache
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Posted - 18/03/2010 : 16:25:08
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Anyone who can help decipher these - I would greatly appreciate.
#5 second column - "Ungk. Murersvend Thorvald Kjølseth og Jomf Marie Secilie Arnesen ægtewiede den 25 Juni 1865"
#5 is Cecilie Marie's record - this is actually the marriage record, Thorvald was 34 years old born in Odalen and his father was lieutenant Kjølseth.
Marie Secilie was 21 years old born in Fredrikstad and her father was carpenter Arnesen.
#16 is Johan's record - Ungk Snedkersvend Johan Fredrik Arnesen Jomfr Emilie Olava Fossum, married Oct 26 he was 26 years and his father was Snedker Johannes Arnesen, she was 23 years and her father was bagermester Ole Fossum.
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davidlasch
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eibache
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Posted - 18/03/2010 : 21:46:15
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Christen Arnesen Hjulmager og Hustru Anna Maria Jonasdatter i Waterland, deres datter Karen Kirstine (fød den 17 Dec 1805)
Bapt. was Jan 3 1806.
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davidlasch
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Posted - 18/03/2010 : 21:54:02
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| Thank you. What does Waterland mean? |
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vivi
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davidlasch
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Posted - 19/03/2010 : 13:51:31
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| Thank you. This would seem to be them. Boston and Worchester are both in Massachusetts so this would make sense. |
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davidlasch
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vivi
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Posted - 19/03/2010 : 15:29:59
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Hi
The word under Carl Ludvig is Snedkersvend (= joiner journeyman) and the word under mother's name is Borchs leiegaard ( leiegaard is an apartment house and Borch is the name of the owner.) |
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davidlasch
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Posted - 19/03/2010 : 15:58:23
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| Thank you. I hope to get the hang of the script so I can try to translate on my own without having to rely on everyone for help :) |
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davidlasch
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Posted - 24/03/2010 : 20:43:37
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Originally posted by vivi
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Originally posted by davidlasch
How should I go about trying to verify that Christen Arnesen and Ane Maria Jonasdatter are the parents of my Johannes Arnesen? I do not see a marriage recored for them or a birth record for Johannes. Thrilled to find out this info just don't want to dig in the wrong places of course. And the script is getting harder to read the older it gets :) not that i can really read it just pick out name (if I am lucky!)
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The godparents of children is often a great source to find relatives.
When Carl Ludvig is baptized April 5, 1836 you find Frederik Arnesen - hjulmager (wheelwright) as a godparent. He is also godparent when Johan Fredrik is baptized Des 26, 1839 and when Cecilie Marie is baptized May 27, 1844. The Johannes I found in Christiania had a brother Frederik (and a Carl Frederik). And their father was a wheelwright.
Among Cecilie Marie's godparents you also find: Pige (unmarried girl) Karen Arnesen. The Johannes I found also had a sister Karen.
Did Johannes and Kari have other children?
Carl Frederik Arnesen also lived in Fredrikstad in the 1865 census:
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=9&filnamn=f60103&gardpostnr=22&personpostnr=448&merk=448#ovre
I feel sure we found the family of "your" Johannes, but it is still just a theory!
Do you know when and /or where Johannes and Kari died? There might be usefull information in the church-book when the are burried.
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I am still trying to locate the death records for Johannes Arnesen and Kari Syversdatter. They are living in Fredrikstad in the 1875 census. Fredrikstad records stop about 1879 when the parish split. I have tried looking thru Ostre Fredrikstad and Vestre Fredrikstad but do not find a record of their deaths. Any suggestions on how to narrow down the search or where to look? Thanks - I was hoping I could hunt them down on my own :( |
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davidlasch
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Posted - 24/03/2010 : 20:55:34
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| Just remembered that Einar told me Glemmen was part of Fredrikstad also - so going to look there now. |
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davidlasch
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Posted - 24/03/2010 : 21:31:35
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| No luck finding them in Glemmen either..... |
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davidlasch
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Posted - 25/03/2010 : 14:32:05
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http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=39&filnamn=f00301&gardpostnr=4698#nedre
in the 1900 census their son Ludvig Arnesen is living in Kristiania with his wife Andrine and 2 children. Maybe if I search that parish I might find some records for Johannes and Kari. How do I figure out from the address what parish to look in?
Census year: 1900
Municipality: Kristiania
Municipality number: 0301
Street name: Calmeyergade 15
Street number:
City district:
House owner:
Number of flats: 8 |
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eibache
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Posted - 25/03/2010 : 16:32:25
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Calmeyersgaten will be in Jacob parish (after 1875)
Before 1875 Oslo Domkirke / Vår Frelsers menighet. |
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Edited by - eibache on 25/03/2010 16:39:18 |
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Kari Syversen
