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jeanwatt
Starting member
Canada
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Posted - 22/04/2010 : 02:05:49
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Thank you Jan Peter and Kare for the additional information. It must have been hard to keep track of people with so many names the same and with large families. "Edvard Rud had 8 siblings, he emigrated to Canada." Who were Edward's siblings and did they emigrate too? Do we have any Vikings as ancestors? That would be kind of neat if we did.Take care and have a great day. |
Edited by - jeanwatt on 22/04/2010 02:21:21 |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 22/04/2010 : 15:56:01
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Hi, we have all viking ancestors, but to find any names are impossible. 85 % of the population in Norway are etnic Norwegians. If you meant beeing an ancestor to the viking kings its almost impossibe to find a correct line.
Internet are full of family trees going back to the old kings, almost all are false even the names are corrrect, names and families mixed together. There are some few correct lines if your ancetsors were from the nobility.
Statistic 5 % are descendants from the viking kings, meaning; 21 500 Norwegian Canadians, 232 000 Norwegian Americans and 235 000 Norwegians.
Could be Sandeboka from 1939 have information about the Rud family, I dont have access to the book, sorry. Regarding Teie; Eiker municipality has no "Bygdebok", a Bygdebok its a book or books where all the farms and who lived ther are mentioned generations back, therefore Eiker is dificult to searc, less information online.
I can make a try for you on the Rud family.
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Edited by - Kċarto on 22/04/2010 18:46:15 |
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jeanwatt
Starting member
Canada
26 Posts |
Posted - 23/04/2010 : 07:13:37
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Thanks for your help, Kare. I actually never thought of Viking kings but just Vikings in general so I am glad that we have ties to the Vikings even though it is impossible to sort out family lines. I am amazed you found out as much as you did about my family. I doubt if it would help me to get the book your mentioned as I cannot read Norwegian and lost what few spoken words I knew as a kid. Unfortunately when my dad went to school he was only allowed to speak English so lost a lot of Norwegian as he grew up. However, I will check my library and see if they can get me a copy in English. I appreciate all the help you and others have given me. |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 23/04/2010 : 13:56:13
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Hi. 6 of Edvards siblings are as follows, all born on Sĝndre Rud: - Anette Nicoline b. August 14. bap. Oct. 14. 1866, #39 - Martin b. Feb. 16. bap. Mai 17. 1869 (Norways national day) #19 - Martine b. Sept. 2. bap Nov. 29. 1874 #37 - Peter Emil b. Feb. 27. bap. June 6. 1880 #17 - Jenny Marie b. July 1. bap. Oct. 14. 1883 #34 - Mathilde b. June 16. bap. Sept. 12. 1886 #28
Sande 1900. Martine, Jenny and Mathilde lived on Sĝndre Ruud with the parents. Martin was a lease holder on Heimdal, your Edvard worked for Martin. Usually first born son was named after his fathers father Amund, cant´t find any Amund Pedersen Ruud.
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Edited by - Kċarto on 24/04/2010 14:07:05 |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 23/04/2010 : 14:10:00
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Peter Emil Pedersen Rud emigrated with his brother Edvard 1904.
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jeanwatt
Starting member
Canada
26 Posts |
Posted - 24/04/2010 : 00:52:12
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Kare, thanks so much for the information. I will start the historical part of my book and put your site url in as a reference. How long in months does a forum topic stay up? Take care. |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 24/04/2010 : 10:20:47
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You are welcome. A book needs correct records, I will bring up the records for you in my posting above.
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 24/04/2010 : 12:25:11
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Jean, You can use "Forum Search" to find again a topic which has slipped from the "front page". See the link Forum Search at upper right area of this web page. |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 24/04/2010 : 14:25:05
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A couriosty sinece your topic started with the names Sande and Jarlsberg.
The churchbook for Sande "prĉstegjeld" Parish, right page, from Jan.1.1878- Nov.1888 mention both Sande and Nordre (Northern)Jarlsberg on the front.
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Edited by - Kċarto on 24/04/2010 14:27:30 |
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jeanwatt
Starting member
Canada
26 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2010 : 02:30:03
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Thank you Hopkins for telling me how to find my forum if I need it again which I probably will as it takes time to make a book. Thank you again Kare for your help. I have some very old pictures and unfortunately most of them do not have names on the back or if a name it is in Norwegian, which of course does not help me...I tried using an online scanner for the words but get gibberish. If I scanned the photos would there be any way to match them to photos in Norway? I have one photo that sort of looks like my grandfather Edvard Pedersen Ruud as a young man, but the lady for sure is not my grandmother Margrethe Karoline Johansen Sjĝl; but she might be my grandmother's sister Otilie who Edward married before he married Margrethe. On the back of the photo printed on to the photo back with some picture of coins it says -Prisbelonnet Kristiania 1883, Filial, Stockholm, Kungsgatan 26, Gabrielsen, Drammen, Christiania, Elektrisk Atelier, Graendsen 8, Maartmanns Atelier, Torvgaden 5B, Torvgadens Atelier, Torvgaden 17, ...the words above are printed on the back in quite large print and then very small in the right corner it says B. Krause Radebent Dresden and in pencil handwriting the number 1567. On the front it say E. Grabrielsen, Drammen in type under the picture. I am thinking that E. Gabrielsen is the photographer and the city might be Drammen. Could you translate the words on the back of the photo for me, please or is this just the address for the photographer? Are there any records showing that Edvard and Otilie lived in the city or town of Drammen? Or Margrethe? My aunt remembers my grandmother talking about Drammen. Or is Drammen the closest city? Thanks. Jean |
Edited by - jeanwatt on 25/04/2010 02:38:56 |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2010 : 11:12:26
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Hi Jean
There ar many adresses here, as foreign Stockholm Sweden and Dresden Germany. Gaden means street. Atelier is a fhoto studio Grendsen 8 a street nr. in Oslo Repeat from above:
.....Prisbelĝnnet; Award winning Kristiania (Oslo) 1883, subsidiary, Stockholm, Kungsgatan 23 (Kings Street 26), Gabrielsen, Drammen, Christiania Elektriske Atelier, Grendsen 8, Maartmanns Atelier Torvgaden 5B, Torvgadens Atelier, Torvgaden 17.
B Krause Radebent Dresden is a German (Equipment supplier?)
Seems like the photo was taken in Drammen, E. (Emanuel) Gabrielsen mentioned as a "Kabinettfotograf" fhotographer in Hamar, Bergen/Fredrikstad, Drammen and Oslo, he also worked in Sweden and bought Martmanns Atelier before 1905, he probably started his business in Drammen about 1900, could be it was Martmann that was awarded.
Drammen town is about 25 Miles north from Sande, Buskerud County, same distance as from Fiskum in Eiker to Sande, ca.18 Miles from Fiskum and Drammen. If Edvard and Otilie lived in Drammen is difficult to answere, any information is in the archives, not online, perhaps if someone find this topic has the answere or where to look.
Digitalarkivet worked on the idle yeasterday, looked after if any of Edvarfs siblings married, perhaps better luck today.
Fiskum is interesting, only 8 miles from where I live.
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2010 : 12:29:23
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The Rud´s kept contact with Fiskum in Eiker. Jan 11. 1908 Jenny Marie Pedersdatter Rud married farmer Hans Martinsen Brĉkke (Brekke) from Fiskum, Column 10 tells Jennys brother farmer Martin Pedersen Rud was her best man, see #1
They probably settled down on Fiskum, search for it later today, time to do some outdoor work on the lawn
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Edited by - Kċarto on 25/04/2010 12:56:25 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2010 : 15:25:18
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The distance from Rud in Sande to Bragernes church is 11,5 miles. |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2010 : 17:32:26
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Jenny Marie Pedersdatter Rud and Hans Martinsen Brĉkke got a son on Brĉkke in Fiskum Feb. 4. 1911, bap. Erik Asbjĝrn April 16, see #3.
Martin Pedersen Rud and Marthine Pedersdatter Rud was two of the godparents, the two others were cousins from Flesberg (Flesseberg), Adolf Kċre and Olaf Karsten.
In my former 1900 posting on Flesseberg I assumed that Adolf K. and Olaf K. was an abbreviation for Karlsen, it was an abbrev. for middlename Kċre and Karsten.
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Edited by - Kċarto on 26/04/2010 14:52:13 |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2010 : 17:48:48
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A daughter Elsa Marie b. on Brĉkke Feb. 16. bapt in Fiskum June 6. 1913, no godparents from Ruud, see lower part #5
Harry Gjermund b. on Brĉkke April 14. bap. in Fiskum July 4. 1915, Mathilde P.and Martin P. Ruud were godparents with cousin Olaf Kċre Flesseberg, see #3
Erling b. Mai. 5. bap. Oct. 27. 1918, see #12
Rolf 1920, b. Oct. 27., see #1
Torleif June 15. 1923, Adolf (Karsten) Flesseberg was a godfather, see #10.
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Edited by - Kċarto on 26/04/2010 20:41:49 |
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