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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 22/07/2011 : 00:29:53
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Signes father was sawmillworker Hans Christian Johannesen born 1852.
Lier 1910. Sawmillworker Kristian Johannesen born 1852 in Lier on farm Skogly in Aasiden, Lier. Kristian Johannesen was now married to Gustava Gustavsen from Sweden born 1871.
Three more persons on Skogly in 1910. Herman Kristiansen b. 1885, sawmill worker, he was Kristians son from his first marrige, married to Helene Olsen b. 1886 in Nedre Eiker municipality and a daughter Helga b. 1909 in Lier
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 22/07/2011 : 00:51:54
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Sawmillworker HansChristian Johannesen on Myhre (housing works) in Lier 1900 married to Gustava Gustavsen b. 1871 in Sweden. She was his 2. wife, Hans Christian had a son Herman b. 1885, Signe 1889 (Jan. 19.1890) and Kirsten Marie 1891 (b. July 10. 1892 on Myhre), see here
It´s correct Signe Johannesen Skogly born Jan. 19. 1890 on farm Myhre in Lier that em. August 5. 1911 from Bergen. Dest; to family in Duluth Minnesota.
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Edited by - Kċarto on 22/07/2011 08:27:30 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 22/07/2011 : 01:41:57
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quote: It´s correct Signe Johannesen Skogly born July 19. 1890 on farm Myhre in Lier that em. August 5. 1911 from Bergen. Dest; to family in Duluth Minnesota
Going back and looking more carefully at the immigration record for Signe, I can see that the fathers name is Kristian as it should be. Also the Myre reference might explain why the Mothers maiden name in the childrens Minnesota birth records is recorded as Meyer.
Although the death certificate for Signe gives her month as Jan not July, however with the correct date and year.
Name: Signe Davidson Birth Date: 19 Jan 1890 Death Date: 16 Aug 1967 Death County: Saint Louis Mother's Maiden Name: No Record
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 22/07/2011 : 02:07:21
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Here is some further information on the Martin Davidson from Virginia, Minnesota. From WWI Registration.
Name: Martin Davidson County: St Louis State: Minnesota Birth Date: 19 Jul 1876 Race: White
Also the 1930 US Census shows him obtaining citizenship in 1905 and Signe in 1911. It also shows his age at first marriage as 31 meaning he was married to Signe in 1910 or 1911 if we use Signe's data. Thus Martin must have been living in the US for some time before he returned to Norway and brought Signe back with him. |
Edited by - AntonH on 22/07/2011 02:49:30 |
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Mikklesen
Starting member
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Posted - 22/07/2011 : 03:03:06
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You folks are too good. I will miss you now for a few days due to previous plans. Save me something to do by the time I get back although the way you are going it looks like I will have nothing left to do. Congratulations. This is the same Martin Davidsen. |
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Mikklesen
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Posted - 22/07/2011 : 03:13:51
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Lyndal40, I just read your post on WW1 registration re: the age of his first marriage. Martin's first marriage was to Petra Ovidia Olsdatter, 26 Sept 1878 in Kroka, Bronnoy. They had 5 children of which I am assuming (Luilui) Tor, a writer on this string, is one of the decendants. Now I really have to go. Back in 5 days. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 22/07/2011 : 03:47:39
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Hi,
This is from www.familysearch.org 's Minnesota Death Index:
Name: Martin Davis Gender: Male Burial Date: Burial Place: Death Date: 20 Jan 1951 Death Place: Alexandria, Douglas, Minnesota, United States Age: 73 Birth Date: 1878 Birthplace: Occupation: Race: Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Signe Davidson Father's Name: Kornelius Kolbjorson Father's Birthplace: Mother's Name: Olive Korneliason Mother's Birthplace: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I09492-1 System Origin: Minnesota-EASy Source Film Number: 2139361 Reference Number: Item 1, p3770
This from www.findagrave.com: Martin Davis Birth: Jul. 19, 1876 Death: Jan. 20, 1951 Burial: Kinkead Cemetery Alexandria Douglas County Minnesota, USA Created by: Karena Couillard Record added: May 07, 2009 Find A Grave Memorial# 36824881
Do these parents' names match the records on the "right" Martin Davidsen?
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Edited by - jkmarler on 22/07/2011 04:20:08 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 22/07/2011 : 04:53:51
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Hi,
This is from the database at the Iron Range Interpretive Center, alien registrations (dating from approx. 1917-1919):
Alien Registration Record
First/Middle Name Last Name Martin Davidson County: STLOUIS City: Virginia State: MINNESOTA Age: 41 Roll #: 352 Frame #: 0612 Source:
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 22/07/2011 : 09:46:47
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quote:
Going back and looking more carefully at the immigration record for Signe, I can see that the fathers name is Kristian as it should be. Also the Myre reference might explain why the Mothers maiden name in the childrens Minnesota birth records is recorded as Meyer.
Although the death certificate for Signe gives her month as Jan not July, however with the correct date and year.
July 19. was a wrongspelling, Signe was born Jan 19. 1890.
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tuilui
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Posted - 22/07/2011 : 10:17:33
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I am still not sure we have the right Martin Davidsen/Davidson. His fathers name was David Anders Davidsen as we can see from the church record of his marriage in 1902.
There is also no questions about his arrival in Boston June 12 1912, the question is: What happened from there?
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 22/07/2011 : 10:48:35
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He was born in Korgen in Hemnes July. 19. 1877. Martin Norgren Davidsen. Parents; David Anders Davidsen and Emman Christine Larsdatter, see #11
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 22/07/2011 : 17:35:31
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From the data we have turned up on Martin Davis (Davidson) who lived in Virginia, St Louis County, Minnesota, I think he was living in Minnesota as early as 1900 and maybe as early as 1893. He then returned to Norway where he met and perhaps married Signe, returned to the US through Canada and back to Virginia, Minneota. Where he became Martin Davidson and lived out the rest of his life in Minnesota.
I also think he is a different man than is Martin Norgren Davidsen born July 19, 1877. and who travelled to Boston June 12, 1912, although we probably need to find a birth record for Martin Davis (Davidson) to really complete the proof. It just seems that one man could not have done all of the things we have a record of Martin Davis (Davidson) doing in Minnesota and back and forth to Norway in the same time frame as Martin Norgren Davidson was doing things in Norway ie getting married and then travelling to Boston.
I do admit that the birth date for Martin Davis (Davidson) of July 19, 1876 and Martin Norgren Davidson of July 19, 1877 is interesting.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 22/07/2011 : 18:44:36
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Hi,
Here is a possible from HeritageQuest in 1920 US Census. Age is indexed as 29 but truly is written in a messy way and could be something other (59, 49, 39?). He came in 1912, he was born in Norway but parents are listed as having been born in Finland. Wife Edith age 30 born Finland and a son William, a few months old. Martin's occupation is "massage" and he, Edith and William are boarding, living in New York:
Surname Given Name Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year DAVIDSON MARTIN 29 M W NORW NY NEW YORK MANHATTAN 1920
From the Italian Genealogy website here is their marriage information:
Surname Given Name Month of Marriage Dayof Marriage Year of Marriage County Certificate Number Soundex Davidson Martin Dec 14 1917 Manhattan 32574 D132
Her name is given as Edith Christiansan.
Jackie M.
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jkmarler
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/07/2011 : 04:20:13
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This is probably him in 1917, still single but with a brith date in 1891. From WWI Draft Registration Name: Martin Davidson City: Manhattan County: New York State: New York Birthplace: Norway Birth Date: 13 Jul 1891
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