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vivi
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 Posted - 30/05/2010 : 23:58:10
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Hi
Mathias Christoffersen born Des. 14, 1846 in Ramnes, Norway was my grgrgrandmother's brother. (Surname also spelled Christophersen or Kristoffersen, Kristophersen.)
He left Norway May 1, 1872 and was going to "Minoca" according to this:
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=1&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=24631&merk=24631#ovre
(I guess this must be Minocqua in Oneida, Wisconsin.)
I'm not able to find anything about him in US. Did he get married? Children? In censuses?
All I know is that he still lived in "Amerika" when his mother died Nov. 30, 1903 in Norway.
His parents were Christopher Hansen and Maren Sophie Andersdatter.
He might also have used the name of the farm he was born at: Bjune, as surname.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 31/05/2010 : 17:07:14
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In spite of the spelling I think this is Mathias Christoffersen travelling to America. Looking at the orginal manifest I think the last name actually is a slightly garbeled version of Christoffersen.
Name: M Christopherso
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Date of Arrival: 25 Jun 1872
Vessel: Ragnhild
Search Ship Database: View the 'Ragnhild' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec
Port of Departure: Bergen, Norway
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 31/05/2010 : 17:17:40
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Adding to the above posting, I found M Christoperso by looking at the orginal manifest of the ship Ragnhild. I found the Ragnhild by searching for Jan Andersen age 25 and family who are listed directly below Mathias in the link you posted. Travelling on the Ragnhild are Jan Andersen age 25, wife Katherine age 29 , children Johann and Nils. This gives me some degree of certaintity that my above posting is your Mathias. Here is the information on Jan Anderson found in Ancestry.com
Name: Jan Anderson
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Date of Arrival: 25 Jun 1872
Vessel: Ragnhild
Search Ship Database: View the 'Ragnhild' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec
Port of Departure: Bergen, Norway
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vivi
Senior member
Norway
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Posted - 31/05/2010 : 17:52:25
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Thank you!
Yes, this must be him. Christophersen (-son) was one of the spellingvariations used.
The ship which sailed from Christiania May 1, 1872 came to Quebec June 19 according to this:
http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_ship.asp?sh=ragnh
I guess it took some days before all the "paperwork" was done.
Do you have more information about him?
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AntonH
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Posted - 31/05/2010 : 18:24:13
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| No, I am not having much luck using the US Cenus on Ancestry.com. Can you tell me how you know that he was still living in the US in 1903 when his mother died. |
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vivi
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Norway
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Posted - 31/05/2010 : 19:38:32
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I have read something called Dødsfallmeldingen (report of the death) when his mother dies 1903 in Sandefjord.
It lists her surviving children and there it is written Mathias Christophersen - Amerika. Nothing more about him. |
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Edited by - vivi on 31/05/2010 19:39:23 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 02/06/2010 : 00:41:01
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Here is one candidate, however there are some issues. Number one is his immigration year is 1868 not 1872. His birth year is given as 1848 here in 1900 US Census but is given as 1849 in 1880 US Census. In the 1880 US Census he also only has the initial M no first name. But I am not having much luck finding a person fitting your Matihias. From the 1900 US Census.
Name: M Christopherson
Home in 1900: Norway, Humboldt, Iowa
Age: 51
Birth Date: Sep 1848
Birthplace: Norway
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1868
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Spouse's name: Martha
Marriage Year: 1878
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 22
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
M Christopherson 51
Martha Christopherson 48
Cornelious Christopherson 21
Olga Christopherson 16
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AntonH
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Posted - 02/06/2010 : 01:02:41
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A little more digging, does turn up his first name. It is unfortunately Martin not Mathias. From the Iowa State Census Records on Ancestry.com.
Name: Martin Christopherson
Birth Year: abt 1850
Birth Place: Norway
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Census Date: 1885
Residence State: Iowa
Residence County: Monona
Locality: Onawa
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vivi
Senior member
Norway
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Posted - 02/06/2010 : 09:27:10
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Thank you for still searching after him!
Do you think the name Mathias would have been used in US or would he have change to something else?
Was Minoqua a place (city?) where people settled in the 1870's or just worked for a while and then moved on?
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AntonH
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Posted - 02/06/2010 : 15:19:26
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Mathias is a name that is not uncommon in the United States and could have been used by him, or he could have changed it to something shorter such as Mat.
You can read abouit Minocqua here in Wikipedia.
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vivi
Senior member
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Posted - 02/06/2010 : 16:54:10
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Thank you.
In one of the links it tells that Minocqua was a "logging town" in the late 1800's. Maybe that is why he came there?
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AntonH
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Posted - 03/06/2010 : 00:00:30
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Looking at the 1880 US Census for Lincoln County, WI, Oneida County was not established until 1885 using the criteria of born in Norway from 1844 to 1848 turns up only five candidates. Three brothers named Hanson and George Baker and Andrew Johnson. Not good candidates for your Mathias.
Searching the 1900 US Census for Oneida Couinty, WI with the criteria of born in Norway from 1844 to 1848, male and migration year 1872 +/- 1 turns up only one person Ludvig Matzfeld. Making the search wider turns up only eleven men but none close to your Mathias.
Thus the census records are not showing him living in that area of Wisconsin in 1880 or 1900. Is there another part of the United States he may have gone to.
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vivi
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Posted - 03/06/2010 : 00:25:35
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Sorry, I have no idea.
Name-changes can be a really challenge. I know some changed to their father's surname when they came to US.
Then we (you) are looking for Mathias Hansen.
As far as I know none of his siblings emigrated.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 03/06/2010 : 04:45:15
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When we consider Mathias Hansen we do come up with one interesting candidate. Here is a Mathias Hansen in 1880 US Census. However he is living in Rock County which is on the south side of Wisconsin, quite far from Oneida County. Also his birth year is a little off.
Name: Mathias Hansen
Home in 1880: Newark, Rock, Wisconsin
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Birthplace: Nor
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse's name: Randine
Father's birthplace: Nor
Mother's birthplace: Nor
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Farmer
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Household Members: Name Age
Mathias Hansen 30
Randine Hansen 38
Antoin Hansen 5
Thea Hansen 3
Hilda R. Hansen 4M
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AntonH
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Posted - 03/06/2010 : 04:47:29
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Here is the same person in the 1900 US Census. Note the immigration year is 1872 and marriage year is also 1872. Again the birth year is 1850.
Name: Mathias Hanson
[Mathia Hanson]
Home in 1900: Newark, Rock, Wisconsin
Age: 50
Birth Date: Apr 1850
Birthplace: Norway
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1872
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Spouse's name: Randine
Marriage Year: 1872
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 28
Household Members: Name Age
Mathias Hanson 50
Randine Hanson 58
Anton Hanson 25
Thea Hanson 23
Hilda Hanson 20
Bertha Hanson 14
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