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MAJA520S
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 Posted - 21/07/2010 : 22:25:32
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Hi, I am looking for information Eric Knudson Vormeland born abt Nov 1838 in Hjelmeland, Stavanger, Norway married to Britta Askelsdatter.
They have 13 children born in Norway. They all came to LaSalle Co., Illinois in the USA at different dates
Thank-you Jodie
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eibache
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Posted - 21/07/2010 : 23:03:47
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| Do you have some names on the children and/or when they were born? |
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 21/07/2010 : 23:17:37
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Hi, Thank-you for replying, The Childrens names are
Newt b: 07 Mar 1861,
Oscar b: 06 Jun 1863
Joseph b: Mar 1866
John B: 1868
Bertha b: Apr 1870
Tillie b: Abt. 1874
Otto b: 06 Jun 1874
Edward b: 24 Apr 1876
Benjamin b: Aug 1878
Andrew b: 04 Dec 1880
Anna b: 02 Mar 1883
Ole b: 1886
Hannah b: Feb 1886
All born in I assume Hjelmeland, Stavanger, Norway |
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hasto
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Posted - 22/07/2010 : 00:17:23
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Erik Knudsen in Hjelmeland in 1865 census
Knud = Newt, and Askel = Oscar. |
Harald S Storaker
4586 Korshamn, Norge |
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hasto
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Posted - 22/07/2010 : 01:00:38
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His father, Knud Østensen, in 1865 census
Anna Larsdatter was Knud's second wife 1844 marriage. The mother of Erik was Anna Nilsdatter 1840 marriage
Some Mormon has Knud Østensen in records, born 1814. Parents marriage 1803
Erik's grandfather, Østein Bjednesen, in 1801 census Suldal |
Harald S Storaker
4586 Korshamn, Norge |
Edited by - hasto on 22/07/2010 22:31:32 |
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 22/07/2010 : 01:34:59
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Hi, I wanted to add that I have found a name of Britta Askelsdatter as mother to the above children. I am hoping to be able to find some Parish Records for this family as well as any other info
I am confused with the last posting of Knuds mother's marriage. I will look at the again.
Thank-you so much |
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 22/07/2010 : 16:41:20
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Hi,
I figured the above out. I was tired!!!!!!! lol
The mother of Erik was Anna Nilsdatter 1840 marriage stated above. Can we confirm Erik's birthdate? I have that he would be born Nov 1838, Before his parents marriage.
Thanks, Jodie |
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eibache
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Posted - 22/07/2010 : 18:08:36
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The baptismal record for Britta Askelsdatter (Britha Askildsdatter) is #38, she was born April 17 1841.
Her parents were Askild Torgersen and Britha Osmundsdatter, Ulledalen.
Erik Knudsen and Britta Askildsdatter were married Nov 23 1860, see #25.
Soldier Askild Torgersen (24 years) and Brita Osmundsdatter (30 years), both Hjorteland were married Oct 30 1829, see #8.
June 23 1842 Askild married his second wife, Eldrid Johnsdatter, see #15.
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Edited by - eibache on 22/07/2010 19:06:05 |
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hasto
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Posted - 22/07/2010 : 18:21:46
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I have corrected the confusing error in my last posting.
You should be able to find church records of baptisms, weddings and confirmations back to 1780. They are all scanned and online, Erik Knudsen and his children were born in Hjelmeland parish, some before that in Suldal parish. It looks like those parishes are not covered by Familysearch, so there is no easy searching, you have to look through the scanned books.
It is interesting to me to see the changing of the names. I have checked up some of them, and made a list: 1 original church record - 2 modern Norwegian - 3 and the Americanized version
Knud 7 March 1861 (nr 26) - Knut - Newt
Askild 6 June 1863 (nr 51) - Askild - Oscar
Johan 28 March 1866 (21) - Johan - Joseph
Johannes 18 Jan 1868 (14) - Johannes - Johan
Confirmation
Bertha I did not find
Thorber 8 May 1872 (29) - Torborg - Tillie Confirmation
Aad 6 June 1874 (44) - Odd - Otto
Edvard - Edvard - Edward
Berdines 15 Aug 1878 (39) - Bertinius - Benjamin
Andreas 4 Dec 1880 - Andreas - Andrew
Anna Kristine - Anna Kristine - Anna
Ole I did not find
Bertha Johanna 19 Feb 1886 - Berta Johanna - Hannah
Marriage 23 Nov 1860
Britha born 17 April 1841 on Ulladalen in Suldal parish. Parents: Askild Torgersen and Britha Osmundsdatter Ulladalen
Online map showing Maribu, Jelsa (Knud Torbjørnsen), Ulladalen, Suldal (Britha), Ramnsfjell, Hjelmeland (1860-1870) and Vormeland (1870-?) Try hybrid option. Click on Kartsøk to get rid of left square. Try zoom. |
Harald S Storaker
4586 Korshamn, Norge |
Edited by - hasto on 22/07/2010 22:23:30 |
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eibache
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Posted - 22/07/2010 : 19:53:05
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Britta Askildsdatters sister Ingeborg was born Jan 28 1838, see #35.
Brittas brother Torger was born June 23 1835, see #22.
Brittas half brother John was born Sept 29 1842, see #47.
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hasto
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Posted - 22/07/2010 : 22:03:45
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I have made a mistake about Erik's parents. In 1865 census it was a note that Erik was lodging by his father. And I assumed that had to be the Knud Østensen I found neighbouring in the census listing. But the farm name is Ravnslien, and the right parents are Knud Torbjørnsen and Torbor Larsdatter Ravnslien
Erik was born 28 Oct 1839 in Hjelmeland parish. His parents were married.
Confirmation 1856
Knud Torbjørnsen, born on Mariboe, Jelsa, baptism 14 May 1802
Torbjørn Pedersen (31) and Gunla Jensdatter (36) in 1801 census |
Harald S Storaker
4586 Korshamn, Norge |
Edited by - hasto on 22/07/2010 22:46:23 |
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 25/07/2010 : 05:17:30
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Hi Harald
I am going through the info you helped me with and putting it in my family file.
I need some help with translation. In the 1865 Census of Knud Torbjørnsen and Torbor Larsdatter Ravnslien can you tell me who the child Torbor Andersdatter 6 yrsold is?
Then in Knud Torbjørnsen, born on Mariboe, Jelsa, baptism 14 May 1802. I think it's the 2nd one on the Right side of page. I can't seem to read it. Can you please tell me what it says?
Thank-you everyone for your help! Your all great!
Jodie
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eibache
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Posted - 25/07/2010 : 08:39:49
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Torbor Andresdatter is Knud and Torbors "datterdatter" (their daughters daughter) the baptismal record is #50 - she was born out of wedlock June 30 1860. Her mother (Knud and Torbors daughter) was Ingri Knudsdatter and the father was Anders Johnsen.
Knuds baptismal record reads "En Dreng kaldet Knud. Faderen Torbiørn Pedersen Mariboe, Moderen Gonnele Jensd. Fadderne Solvei Osen, Britha Helgeland, Henrich Aas, Ingvald Mariboe, Christen Tveit." - A boy called Knud. The father Torbiørn Pedersen, Mariboe, the mother Gonnele Jensdatter. The godparents ------.
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Edited by - eibache on 25/07/2010 08:48:27 |
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 25/07/2010 : 14:36:41
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Hi again, Can you help me understand correctly the translation of the Headings of the 1801 Telling
Amt --- would = County?
Prestegjeld -- would = Parish?
Sokn -- would = ?
Gard/hus -- would = Farm?
Thank-you eibache, for your help!
In the recent postings it has brought up a couple more questions.
1.) I wonder what happed to Ingri Knudsdatter that her child was living with the Grandparents?
2.) Askild Torgersen. What happened to the 1st wife Britha Osmundsdatter Ulladalen? When the 2nd wife gave birth to John Askildson 29 Sep 1842. The were only married 23 Jun 1842 3 months before his birth. I wonder if Britha died? or they divorced?
Thanks, Jodie |
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hasto
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Posted - 25/07/2010 : 22:26:22
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A "gard" in Hjelmeland was much smaller than a farm in US. Conditions and traditions were very different. Still we translate it like that, "gard" = farm. "Hus" = house. Amt (today fylke) = county, A "sogn" has one church. One pastor might serve more churches = 1 prestegjeld.
It was not unusual that a child born out of wedlock was raised by the grandparents.
Britha Osmundsdatter died 18 April 1841 nr 14 |
Harald S Storaker
4586 Korshamn, Norge |
Edited by - hasto on 25/07/2010 22:28:43 |
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 26/07/2010 : 02:23:48
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Wow! Thank-you,
It appears the 1st wife died 1 day after giving Birth to Daughter Britha |
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