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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
 Posted - 11/10/2010 : 16:47:43
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Jackie,For the US Census I did not search under the name but left the name blank and used birth year plus or minus 2and born in Norway and year of immigration 1881. That usually turns up less than 100 names which I then scan to see if there are any names that begin with B that might fit.
The Iowa State Census are not so easy. There is no birth year or immigration year line in the search box so all you can do is search by place of birth ie Norway and sex ie female. Also the 1885 Iowa Census does not include all of the counties, for example no Clinton County. Even so a search turns up over 3500 names. Too large to scan easily so you must use some eliminator such as Bri* to bring it down to a reasonable number. Then you turn up about four or five names. This list does give ages so you can then eliminate names that way. The Iowa State Census gives a lot of information if you can reasonably find the person you are seeking. You can also search the Iowas State Census Collection 1836-1925 on Ancestry.com. But in this case we really do not know enough about Brita to bring the number of people down to a number where further searching is possible. For example in this case searching under no name and born 1860 plus or minus 2 and Norway and female gives 3451 ladies in Iowa. Putting in the county Clinton gives 35 ladies but only one that begins with B a Belle. Further examination of Belle rules her out.
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Edited by - AntonH on 11/10/2010 22:34:28 |
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Magnar Hjelmeland
Medium member
Norway
96 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2010 : 22:50:20
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Hi to all, I am sorry that I got others to put so much strength working on my favorite Brita. I could not resist my wishes to see if she got a better life in the US.
Her mother Brita Nilsdtr. was also born out of wedlock and was also insane from childhood. Magnar. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2010 : 02:24:27
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| Don't be sorry Magnar, it is always worth giving it a try to see if by chance someone can stumble upon a reference to your Brita that leads to a solution of what happened to her life. We have seen many examples on this forum where searching the data bases does turn up, sometimes quite unexpectantly the right person. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2010 : 03:56:40
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Sometimes when we put our strengths and passions into a search, even a futile search, we learn much about our own capabilities and we learn about each other. I will keep your Brita in my memories and if I ever stumble across her or a likely suspect I will endeavor to notify you.
Just for your notes - many of the early arrivals among the specific Kvinnherad families I have previously mentioned first appear to have emigrated to Clinton Co. Iowa, then to Benton Co. Iowa and my own family lines continued on to Humboldt Co. Iowa or were later arrivals joining the others already there.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2010 : 17:00:29
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Hi,
I'm sure the 1885 search was thorough, there is also the 1895 Iowa census, and the 1925 Iowa census which even asks for parent's names in which Brita's mother's name might turn up and/or her potential children naming her. But Iowa is only a place to start and if the friendship or association is close enough and if it can be determined that she was there. Lots of ifs.
What sort of records could a young single woman show up in in the 1880s? Newspapers, baptismals, church membership lists, censuses. Not all are easily accessible.
Did she have any cousins, aunts or uncles who might have come to America and where did they go to settle? Enlarging the base sometimes helps, it's much easier to find a family than one lone person.
At least in the US Federal Census of 1900, provided Brita kept a fairly similar name and hadn't died, gives birth month and year and perhaps she could be found in that record. Or produce a list of potentials which could be further honed down with dogged research.
Well, Good Luck.
Jackie M.
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Magnar Hjelmeland
Medium member
Norway
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Posted - 12/10/2010 : 21:38:50
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Hi, and thank you. Yes there are a lots of qustions and answer at list to people have taken with them to their grave
To made Brita's mother pregnant was a crime, she was insane. It could be a possibility that her father had migrated before.
As far as I am able to see, Brita's mother had a half brother, Jens Larson born 19. september 1823. Do't know anything of his wereabouts. Martha, aur Brita's foster mother died 1880.
To Hopkins, Martha was married to Gjert Pederson, a brother of your Alis. Magnar. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2010 : 22:50:55
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Well here is a Jens Larsen from the 1880 US Census. What stands out about him is his birth year and that he lives in Worth County, Iowa.
Name: Jens Larsen
Home in 1880: Silver Lake, Worth, Iowa
Age: 58
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Birthplace: Nor
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse's name: Jese Larsen
Father's birthplace: Nor
Mother's birthplace: Nor
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Farmer
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Household Members: Name Age
Jens Larsen 58
Jese Larsen 50
Lars Larsen 21
Bjoren Larsen 19
Ole Larsen 16
Mari Larsen 12
Gurine Larsen 10
Tollen Larsen 6
Jens Larsen 5
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2010 : 23:11:57
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Hi,
Sorry but this Jens Larson is actually an ørjans and came from Hallingdal. His tombstone dates are 4 Aug 1822 and he died 17 May 1898.
Hilsen,
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 13/10/2010 : 00:13:11
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| Magnar, Thanks for the brief note about Gjert Pedersen and his wife, Marta. Oh don't we wish these people had left old letters and stories behind for us!! The only thing I have is one old grey and dim photo of Alis Pedersdatter when she was in her mid-90's -- completely blind and close to death. For years the family always claimed that she lived to be 100 years old -- but my later research proved that she didn't quite live that long. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 13/10/2010 : 00:27:28
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She travelled with a next door lady Ingeborg Johnsdtr. Ingeborg lived at Grand Moud, Clinton Co. Iowa. and she is buried in the Kvinherred Cemetery, Calamus. No further what happened to Brita. Magnar
Magnar, can you share with us all that you know about Ingeborg. What was her birth year and what was her married name. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 13/10/2010 : 01:08:27
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The ship Algeria list one Jorgabreg Johnsdotter, b. 1829.
Could she be this one?
The tombstone on Ingeborg Erickson, buried at the Kvindherred Cemetery in Olive Township, Clinton County, Iowa
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 13/10/2010 : 04:03:50
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Well after some searching the only person I turned up in the 1900 US Census that closely resembles the Ingeborg is this one. The birth year is off by ten years but she is the closest. She is living in Orange Township whcih is next to Olive Township where she is buried. If one can believe the marriage year she was married before she arrived in the US.
Name: Irzabah Erickson
[Irzabaty Erickson]
Home in 1900: Orange, Clinton, Iowa
Age: 40
Birth Date: Sep 1839
Birthplace: Norway
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1882
Relationship to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Mother: number of living children: 0
Mother: How many children: 0
Spouse's name: Chris Erickson
Marriage Year: 1880
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 20
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Chris Erickson 50
Irzabah Erickson 40
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Magnar Hjelmeland
Medium member
Norway
96 Posts |
Posted - 13/10/2010 : 13:18:21
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Hi, and thank you all, Yes you right Lyndal, it is the right Ingeborg you found in the 1900 census. Have info from other sources that she married Christian Christanson Omvig, see that he had taken his mother's patronymic name, Aagot Eriksdtr.
He migrated in 1880 and appear in 1880 census for ill, he lived with a brother and used Christian Christianson I think, also he came back home and died here in 1903.
So Ingeborg, she said in the census that she have had no children. This not true, she had a child Anna Larsdtr. b. 30. July 1858. She grew up with her grandparents Hans Olson and wife Anna, the child Anna went with them to US. 1866.
Child Anna's father was Lars Hanson b. 1835, US. 1861.
Mother Ingeborg was born 1. september 1829.
Have pic. of all the gravstone in the Kvinnherad Cemetery.
Do think they are on iternet too.
Magnar.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 13/10/2010 : 19:29:36
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Originally posted by Magnar Hjelmeland
Have pic. of all the gravstone in the Kvinnherad Cemetery.
Do think they are on iternet too.
Magnar.
I think so too. Maybe even in this forum.
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Magnar Hjelmeland
Medium member
Norway
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Posted - 14/10/2010 : 20:37:30
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Hopkins, as we have been out on deep water I am so free to ask if you have any knowledge about this family.
A sister Anna of your Knud Olson and husband Hemming Ostenson and 7 children migrated in 1861. I did find Hemming Ostenson partisipated at a congregation meeting at Calamus, Clinton just after Christmas 1861. Have made several attempt to find out more about this family.
The parents were born 1812. Children Christi was b. 22. July 1840, Ragnhild b. 3. December 1845, Hemming b. 17. September 1848, Anna b, 10. May 1852, Kari 8 years 1861, Anna b. 6. March 1855, Osten b. 24. July 1859.
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Know this is almost impossible.
