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Nettierud
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87 Posts |
 Posted - 05/11/2010 : 19:14:52
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I'm have trouble finding the parents of my great grandmother Christine. She was born in Norway in 1868 and emigrated to Minnesota in 1888 where she married Peter Olson Sjol. I found her maiden name listed on the death records of some of her children. Some list it as Sundby, some say Nordby and one says Christephersen. Peter was born in 1860 and emigrated in 1882-
If anyone can be any help I would greatly appreciate it. |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 06/11/2010 : 00:52:47
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Hi,
I have some information which I can not confirm, Christines date of birth don´t correspond with yours:
Christine Sjol born Sunby born Feb. 23. 1850, died Oct. 30. 1924 married 1888 to Peter Olsen Sjol b. Jan. 2. 1860 d. Feb. 23. 1850 in Minnesota, 10 children.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/11/2010 : 01:08:23
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Hi,
Here is Christina Sjol found in Minn. Historical Death index online:
SJOL, CHRISTINA
Date of Birth: na
Place of Birth: na
Mother Maiden Name: na
certid# 1923-MN-011694
Date of Death: 31 Oct 1923
County of Death: POLK
And apparently one of the children in the Minnesota Birth Index online:
Sjol, Clara Josephine
Date of Birth: 11 Sep 1910
Mother Maiden Name: Christopherson
certid# 1910-19911
County of Birth: Polk
If the birthyear of 1850 is correct we have to believe that a woman 60 years of age gave birth in 1910....
Hilsen,
Jackie M.
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Edited by - jkmarler on 06/11/2010 01:16:07 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 06/11/2010 : 01:12:19
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The complete Minnesota death certificate if sent for might have additional information.
1900 the family was in North Dakota. 1910 and 1920 in Polk Co., Minnesota. Church records of congregations they belonged to might also have information about her origins. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 06/11/2010 : 02:34:46
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Hi,
Yes getting her actual death certificate may net parent's names even though mother's maiden name for Christina is not included in the online index.
The variations on the name mentioned are not necessarily mutually exclusive. In Norway, Christina would have been a Christophersdatter if her father was named Christopher. And the family could have lived at Sunby for a time and at Norby for a time and adopted the either farm name upon coming to America, or adapted their patronymic names, either after Christina's father or after her father's father's name.
These are from www.newslibrary.com...
Grand Forks Herald (ND) - February 17, 1994
OBITUARIES SENA RUD
Sena Rud. 101, Fosston, died Tuesday, Feb. 15, 1994, in Midway Care Center, Fosston, where she had lived since 1984.Sena Christine Sjol was born Nov. 25, 1892, in LaMoure County, N.D., the daughter of Sidney and Christina (Sunby) Sjol. She attended school near Fosston, graduated from nursing school in Fergus Falls, Minn., and graduated in 1918 from nursing school at St. Luke's Hospital, Chicago. She worked at Fosston Hospital and Midway Care Center. She married Gustay Rud...
Grand Forks Herald (ND) - November 23, 1999
ANNA RUD
Anna Rud, 101, Clearbrook, died Sunday, Nov. 21, 1999, in the Good Samaritan Center, Clearbrook, where she had lived for the past two years.Anna Mathilde Sjol was born Oct. 5, 1898, the daughter of Peter and Christine (Norby) Sjol, in LaMoure County, N.D. She moved to Fosston with her family. She attended school in Fosston, and normal training in McIntosh, Minn. She married Christ Rud on May 17, 1919. They lived and farmed in the Fosston area until 1931, when they moved to Clearbrook....
Grand Forks Herald (ND) - January 10, 1989
OBITUARIES EDWIN SJOL
Edwin Sjol, 92, Fosston, died Friday, Jan. 6, 1989, in Fosston Municipal Nursing Home.Services will be at 2 p.m. today in Hope Lutheran Church, Fosston. Visitation will be there one hour before services. Arrangements are with Hoialmen Funeral Home, Fosston.Edwin Sjol was born Aug. 20, 1896, in Fort Ransom, N.D., the son of Peter and Christine Sjol. He grew up in Fosston. He married Clara Torgerson in 1925 in Fisher, Minn. He worked on the Great Northern Railway in Crookston,...
Some of the variation may also be the result of bad typos, or the informant not having accurate information to begin with. In particular the one in which the father is identified as "Sidney" also identifies her husband's name as "Gustay" which could be an unusual rendering of Gustav or Gustaf.
How was her name rendered on their marriage record?
Hilsen,
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Nettierud
Medium member
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87 Posts |
Posted - 06/11/2010 : 03:13:14
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Yes, I don't believe the birthdate of 1850 is correct- everything else there corresponds though. I looked into ordering a copy of the death certificate online but they require the parents names and since I don't know them I didn't continue. I also haven't found any marriage record. If you have suggestions on how to obtain those I thank you. I'm not sure where they got married, the oldest son lists being born in Minnesota on the censuses and the next oldest in North Dakota.
Sena's obituary has got her son's names confused with her father.
Thank you so much for taking the time to look those up.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 06/11/2010 : 03:32:49
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Hi,
What's the oldest son's name?
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 06/11/2010 : 07:51:37
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Result of findings so far:
Christine, Sundby (b May 1868, d Oct 1923) and Peter Olsen, Sjol (marriage appr 1889)
Children:
Olaf
Ingvald
Sena C (b Nov. 25, 1892, in LaMoure County, N.D)
Edwin (b Aug. 20, 1896, in Fort Ransom, N.D.)
Anna (b Oct. 5, 1898)
Lilly
Gibert
Tilda
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 06/11/2010 : 09:54:31
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Married Jan. 1. 1888, no info on where, sorry.
Christina Sundby born 1850 is probably a wrongspelling.
Of the children I have;
- Olaf Feb. 22. 1890 d. Nov. 2. 1933
- Ingeral (Ingvald) March 25. 1891, d. March 28. 1973
- Sena Aug. 20. 1893, d. Feb. 15. 1994
- Anna Sept. 25. 1894. d. April 31. 1895
- Edwin Aug. 20. 1896, d. Jan. 6. 1989
- Anna Oct. 5. 1898, d. ??
- Lillie Block b Sjol Oct. 16. 1900 d. Feb. 20. 1994
- Clara Sept. 17. 1902. d. April 23. 1909
- Gilbert April 25. 1905, d. Nov. 9. 1989
- Tilla Tverberg born Sjol, Mai. 19. 1908, d. April 18. 2005 in Duluth, Minnesota
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Edited by - Kċarto on 06/11/2010 11:23:25 |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 06/11/2010 : 10:29:32
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Hi.
Most of my info comes from this Foldesi-Tverberg family tree in Norwegian, you has to sign in, it´s free, (be a member) to get full acess to the family tree.
To get acess to the Surnames (Etternavn), alphabetical, click on Personer, up to the left.
If you are interested assistance to learn how you will get here.
Good luck.
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Edited by - Kċarto on 06/11/2010 10:58:25 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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3351 Posts |
Posted - 06/11/2010 : 13:08:55
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I've never been asked to submit the parents names when I've ordered an uncertified Minnesota death certificate. Are you starting from the online index to those records? http://people.mnhs.org/dci/Search.cfm?bhcp=1
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Nettierud
Medium member
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Posted - 06/11/2010 : 14:53:21
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Hopkins- thanks for that link, I was accessing some other on-line place that I found through a search engine. This morning I ordered both Christine and Pete's certificates. The marriage certificate is only available in 15 counties in the state and I don't think they ever lived in the ones listed. But maybe the death certificates will provide me with what I need.
Kaarto: What can I say but a heartfelt thanks. You have found things in six hours what I have not been able to find in six months. I am going right on to that family tree site and signing up. Thank you for the offer to assist, I may have to take you up on it.
To everyone else providing input- thank you all! |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 06/11/2010 : 16:08:23
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I believe I found her.
Pige Kristine Ingebretsdatter, Sundby moved out of Bjĝrke in Nannestad in April 1888, destination Amerika, see #2 under 1888.
Kristine was born May 19 1867, see #63, her parents were Ingebreth Larsen and Kari Christoffersdatter.
She was confirmated Oct 1881, see 7th record, she was then living at Sundby. (I read the birth place as Sundgaard.)
Kristines parents were married April 3 1867, see #5, Ingebret was 29 years old and his father was Lars Olsen, Sundbyeie and Kari was 26 years old, her father was Christoffer Gulliksen.
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Edited by - eibache on 07/11/2010 10:51:39 |
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Nettierud
Medium member
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87 Posts |
Posted - 06/11/2010 : 18:43:25
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| Eibache- I am so very grateful. That is her. You are awesome! |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/11/2010 : 23:13:35
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Engebreth (= Ingebreth) Larsen was born Oct 11 1837, see #1212, his parents were Lars Olsen, Sundbye and Eli Christoffersdatter.
Kari Christoffersdatter was born Dec 27 1839, see #1320, her parents were Christoffer Gullichsen and Anna Ingebretsdatter, Volloug.
Christopher Gullichsen came from Schiĉrven in Jevnaker to Hombledalen farm, he was 27 1/2 years old, see
#39.
Christopher (Chrestoffer Gullechsen) his parents and siblings in 1801.
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Edited by - eibache on 07/11/2010 11:01:28 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/11/2010 : 06:00:39
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| Christine left Oslo April 20 1888 on Angelo and bound for Chicago, see 106646. |
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Christine Sundby, Nordby or Christoffersdatter
