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Nettierud
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 Posted - 07/11/2010 : 17:47:54
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Amazing, you have a gift truly. I scanned those same records last evening and only found the passenger list. My parents and grandparents are gone now but my elderly aunt and uncle still are alive and I have been passing on the family tree findings. Mysteries about their grandparents that they have always wanted to know are finally getting solved.
Would it be too much to ask if you can point me in the right direction for Christine's husband Peter Olson Sjol? Facts that I do know are that he immigrated in 1882 when he was 22. My aunt said his parents were Ole and Cecile but we don't know what area he came from or anything else.
With much gratitude,
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 07/11/2010 : 21:10:34
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Hi.
When I first saw the name Sjol I thought it was the Norwegian Sjøl farms from Sande but I could not find any Peter Olsen Sjøl in Sande.
Family Search has Peter Olsen Sjol born in Gudbrandsdalen Jan. 2. 1860 to Ole Sjol and Secile.
Search in Family Search, use *Last Name Sjol and Norway.
Perhaps a shot in the dark so pleace take this information with a "pinch of salt", but the dato of Peters birth and the name of the parents correspond.
1860
Bragernes parish in Drammen, born Jan 2. 1860 christend April 22;
Peter Ludvig Olsen, parents;
Ole Johnsen and Sidsil Pedersdatter, see #33
Family Search tells that Peter Olsen Sjol was born in Gudbrandsdalen Jan. 2. 1860.
I have bachelor and soldier Ole Johnsen Kollebostuen and maid Sidsel Pedersdatter Høvre married 1849 in Øyer in Gudbrandsdalen, see #20
Question; where or what is the origin of the Sjol name?
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 07/11/2010 : 23:35:39
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One Peter Olsen emigrated through Oslo March 16 1882 bound for Grand T. D.T. His home town was in Hoff, Solør where farms exist under the name Skjøl (Sjol).
More searching needed to confirm that this is "Peter Olson Sjol".
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Nettierud
Medium member
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Posted - 07/11/2010 : 23:39:49
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Kaarto- I think that is him because I knew of his middle name being Ludvig from family papers. Thank- you!
I don't know why he decided to change his name to Sjol. My aunt said that he went by Olson until his second son was born and then he changed it to Sjol. If I uncover anything else during my search, I'll repost. I have to go and read the parish records now. Thank-you again,
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Nettierud
Medium member
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Posted - 08/11/2010 : 00:55:03
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Originally posted by eibache
One Peter Olsen emigrated through Oslo March 16 1882 bound for Grand T. D.T. His home town was in Hoff, Solør where farms exist under the name Skjøl (Sjol).
More searching needed to confirm that this is "Peter Olson Sjol".
Hmm. Maybe he worked on one of those farms before emigrating. He did live in the Dakota Territory for awhile so Grand Forks would have been a fit. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 08/11/2010 : 06:38:49
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The LDS record show Peter Sjol died Febr 23 1950 in Mcintosh, Polk, Minnesota. Could this be right?
Ole Johnsen was born Sept 9 1825, see #132. His parents were John Johnsen and Lisbet Haldorsdatter, Kolleboe.
Lisbet Haldosdatter was born Nov 14 1792, see 3rd record in second column. Her parents were Haldo and Lisbet Lunke. The family in 1801.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 08/11/2010 : 10:33:23
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Hi Nettie.
Then Peter had a middle name Ludvig !!!
The possibility that there are two Peter Ludvig Olsen born Jan. 2.1860 to Ole and Sidsil in Norway, that possbility is equal to zero.
If the parents got namesakes who married in Øyer 1849 I do not know at this time.
Most of the Norwegian emigrants kept the farm name as family name, others changed to something they liked or had a meaning for them.
Peter Olsen changed to Peter Sjol after he settled in the US.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 08/11/2010 : 10:44:50
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Hi.
More Peter Sjol information;
Memorial Day 2010
Froen Lutheran Cemetery, Polk County, Christine, Clara, Peter O and Ingvald Sjol, see first chapter and about 2 inch. from bottom, here
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Nettierud
Medium member
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Posted - 08/11/2010 : 15:33:20
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Thank-you.
The cemetary I know like the back of my hand. Every year as children we went with my Grandparents to Froen church on Memorial Day to pay respects and bring flowers.
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Originally posted by Kåarto
Hi.
More Peter Sjol information;
Memorial Day 2010
Froen Lutheran Cemetery, Polk County, Christine, Clara, Peter O and Ingvald Sjol, see first chapter and about 2 inch. from bottom, here
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Nettierud
Medium member
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Posted - 08/11/2010 : 15:37:24
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Yes that is right. I think that almost all of the children lived to be in their 90's or like my grandmother who reached 101.
What is the secret that allows you to read those records so clearly? I can barely make out the given names much less the farm.
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Originally posted by eibache
The LDS record show Peter Sjol died Febr 23 1950 in Mcintosh, Polk, Minnesota. Could this be right?
Ole Johnsen was born Sept 9 1825, see #132. His parents were John Johnsen and Lisbet Haldorsdatter, Kolleboe.
Lisbet Haldosdatter was born Nov 14 1792, see 3rd record in second column. Her parents were Haldo and Lisbet Lunke. The family in 1801.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 08/11/2010 : 17:50:59
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Hi, I assumed you knew the cemetery.
Its much easier to read names than expected, no hocus pocus, all you need is some practice, after you have repeted the records some times you will learn and understand.
It was Peter Ludvigs parents that married in Øyer 1849, Ole Jonsen Kollebu and Sicil Pedersdatter left Øyer July 3. 1857 with two daughters, Lisbeth age 8. and Karen age 5 (b.Jan. 4. 1853), dest Drammen, see top left page #123-126
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Nettierud
Medium member
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Posted - 08/11/2010 : 18:09:09
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I was just coming back to ask if it was possible they were linked and how to track them. I'm anxious to read the record- it still gives me a thrill to see those handwritten entries. What a treasure Norway has preserved.
Thank-you.
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Originally posted by Kåarto
Hi, I assumed you knew the cemetery.
Its much easier to read names than expected, no hocus pocus, all you need is some practice, after you have repeted the records some times you will learn and understand.
It was Peter Ludvigs parents that married in Øyer 1849, Ole Jonsen Kollebu and Sicil Pedersdatter left Øyer July 3. 1857 with two daughters, Lisbeth age 8. and Karen age 5 (b.Jan. 4. 1853), dest Drammen, see top left page #123-126
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 08/11/2010 : 18:13:38
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Cisil Pedersdatter was born on farm Høvre Sept. 30, bap. Oct. 15. 1815, see 5. section, 3 and 4 line under hedline Baptiza:
Øyer, see here
In 4. section is the date of the baptism. 15de Octbr (Oct 15)
5. Section;
Item (same day as above) Peder og (and) Karie Høvrens født (born) d: 30 Sept: b: (barn-child) Zidsel
Peder Høvren was Peder Olsen Høvren and Karie was Kari Christensdatter.
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Nettierud
Medium member
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Posted - 08/11/2010 : 19:42:41
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With your help I can see it now. Thanks
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Originally posted by Kåarto
Cisil Pedersdatter was born on farm Høvre Sept. 30, bap. Oct. 15. 1815, see 5. section, 3 and 4 line under hedline Baptiza:
Øyer, see here
In 4. section is the date of the baptism. 15de Octbr (Oct 15)
5. Section;
Item (same day as above) Peder og (and) Karie Høvrens født (born) d: 30 Sept: b: (barn-child) Zidsel
Peder Høvren was Peder Olsen Høvren and Karie was Kari Christensdatter.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 08/11/2010 : 22:47:28
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Peder Olsen, Høvren and Karie Christensdatter, Houg were married April 12 1799, see 3rd couple.
In the 1801 census you find Peder Olsens parents, (599) Ole Pedersen and (600) Aase Samueldatter.
Peder Olsen was baptized Dec 16 1770, see bottom record.
Kari Christensdatter was born April 1 1781, see bottom record, parents Christen and Anne Raabel.
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Christine Sundby, Nordby or Christoffersdatter
