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Robyn Hand
Junior member
Australia
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 Posted - 03/05/2012 : 07:34:44
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Hi guys well after you gave me the boys names and the stories that have been floating around the family I have spent the whole day reasearching and I HAVE FOUND THEM ALL YA all the boys are buried in Rookwood Cemetry in Sydney I can't believe it I have been looking at them all this time I just needed a name I found out that Ole Theodore Hansen Married in Melbourne to Mary L Nicolls in 1879 they had Eliza Catrina Hansen 1880 Melbourne and then nothing so I looked on the NSW BDM (online) and there they where they had another 8 children I have their dates of birth and the marriages of the children one in particular hit me the name of the lady that Claude Married was Rosa Woolcott I was shocked because that is the middle name of the last baby that Carl and Isabella had Bethia Francis Woolcott Hansen, Isabella died giving birth to her and the story is that she was bought up by a relative and I thought it was Fanny that did that, Fanny is Isabella sister, I now know it was Ole Theodor's son WOW this story has convinced me I have the right man after that I went to find Ole's death I looked in the Rookwood Cem. online and there he was D 2.12.1923 and his wife Mary Louisa Hansen D 19.12.1936 and in the same grave was Peter Bernard Hansen D 12.3.1930 at the home of Peace Marrickville its the same place that Karl Hansen D 4.6.1927 Home of Peace Marickville
I have more to ad I have to go wil put all I have found on line soon Catcha Later Robyn
Here is another candidate for one of the brothers, Ole Theodore. Interesting that he arrived in 1870 as well.
New South Wales, Australia, Certificates of Naturalization, 1849-1903
Name: Ole Theodor Hansen
Date of Naturalization: 1 Oct 1887
Date of Arrival: 1870
BirthLocation: Christiannia in Norway
Birth Year: abt 1845
Age: 42
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 03/05/2012 : 08:27:39
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wow! 
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Robyn Hand
Junior member
Australia
35 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2012 : 11:09:01
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This is great it has to be our Peter Bernard I have found him living in Sydney I can't find a marriage I wonder if he had a wife in every Port. Know to find the other two Carl and Ole Theodor
Thank you another link in the change
Robyn
Regarding your question about the brothers, Ancestry.com has records of a Peter Hansen working as a sailor on ships traveling from various ports to Sidney. Here is one of about 10 records for the same man.
New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922
Name: Peter Hansen
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Age: 26
Port of Departure: Levuka, Fiji
Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date: 25 May 1883
Vessel Name: Cintra
Origin Location: Norwegian
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Robyn Hand
Junior member
Australia
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Posted - 03/05/2012 : 11:11:25
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I have found a Naturalization for Peter B Hansen as well but none for Carl Thank you Robyn
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Here is another candidate for one of the brothers, Ole Theodore. Interesting that he arrived in 1870 as well.
New South Wales, Australia, Certificates of Naturalization, 1849-1903
Name: Ole Theodor Hansen
Date of Naturalization: 1 Oct 1887
Date of Arrival: 1870
BirthLocation: Christiannia in Norway
Birth Year: abt 1845
Age: 42
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Robyn Hand
Junior member
Australia
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Posted - 03/05/2012 : 11:26:47
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Thank for this I do not have Ancestry.com it is to expensive. So Peter was a sailor you said about 10 trips you can see does it tell you what was his Rank his father Hans is on Carl marriage as Mariner. Is the other boys on board a ship.
Thank you for this
Regards Robyn
Regarding your question about the brothers, Ancestry.com has records of a Peter Hansen working as a sailor on ships traveling from various ports to Sydney. Here is one of about 10 records for the same man.
New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922
Name: Peter Hansen
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Age: 26
Port of Departure: Levuka, Fiji
Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date: 25 May 1883
Vessel Name: Cintra
Origin Location: Norwegian
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Robyn Hand
Junior member
Australia
35 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2012 : 12:10:24
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YES this is her Dianne Bates I was talking to her years ago when I was just starting to look and the computer died do you know what has happened to her I have enough to make a comtact with all this and what I have on the Hansen.
She was looking for Edward Hansen but which State of Australia I can't remember? she had a Hans & Martha Olsen I think.
Thanks heaps Robyn
Is this the topic you were looking for?
I have found something today to confirm Ole Hansen was a Smith too great job finding that what type of Smith?.
One Dianne Bates is looking for an Edward Hanson, born about 1848 in Moss, County Ostfold, Norway.
Not sure where she got the city Moss from, but it looks like this could be Ole Theodor, born 1845?
Ole Theodor Hansen emigrates from Oslo on April 29th, 1870.
But... and there are maybe too many but's here:
He is not a sailor, but a smith.
He is 22, but should have been 25 in 1870
His residence is Nĉs, Romerike... Not Oslo (Kristiania)
He is going to Chicago, America. (He could have continued to Australia later though, when he found out that his brothers went to Australia)
lyndal40: This Peter Hansen is a good clue!
Jan Peter
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 03/05/2012 : 14:01:24
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I have not seen any sign of Carl's father Hans Thoresen being a mariner.
1844: Wedding record. I think Hans Thoresen is listed as a soldier of some kind...
1850: Christening record for Carl Frederik; Father Hans Thoresen is listed as "National soldier"
1865: Census. Hans Thoresen is listed as lumper (wharf worker)
1875: Census. Hans Thoresen is listed as "worker" (labourer)
Regarding Ole Theodor Hansen's emigration, it just say "smed" ("smith"). I guess that's mean he was a blacksmith.
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Robyn Hand
Junior member
Australia
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Posted - 03/05/2012 : 14:42:25
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I have the marriage certificate of Carl and Isabella and the father is a Mariner thats what it looks like. I would like to send you the cerificate so you can read it your self but it never works when I try to include it if you would like to see it tell me how to do it or I will sent my e-mail address
Robyn
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Originally posted by jwiborg
I have not seen any sign of Carl's father Hans Thoresen being a mariner.
1844: Wedding record. I think Hans Thoresen is listed as a soldier of some kind...
1850: Christening record for Carl Frederik; Father Hans Thoresen is listed as "National soldier"
1865: Census. Hans Thoresen is listed as lumper (wharf worker)
1875: Census. Hans Thoresen is listed as "worker" (labourer)
Regarding Ole Theodor Hansen's emigration, it just say "smed" ("smith"). I guess that's mean he was a blacksmith.
Jan Peter
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 03/05/2012 : 16:51:34
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In the records I have looked at for Peter Hansen he is listed as AB, which I think is short for able seaman ie one with some years of experience.
New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922
Name: Peter Hansen
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Age: 23
Port of Departure: Melbourne
Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date: 2 Jun 1879
Vessel Name: Kembla
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 03/05/2012 : 21:22:59
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Add. info from Oslo.
From he married 1844 to 1852 National soldier nr 13. Hans Thoresen was a gunner in 2. Battery at Akershus Fortress
As members of "Garnisonsmenigheten" The Garrison congregation, and all the christian ceremonies for this family was taken place in "Slottskirken" Castle Church
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Robyn Hand
Junior member
Australia
35 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2012 : 04:51:00
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That is very intersting at least we have a date when he was here considering Carl was married on the 2th July 1881 he was 30yrs old and she was 21 yrs in Sydney I have found in the newspapers that he was here around in 1880's I did find in the newspapers that Ole Theodor Hansen was on board the ship Weston that left Melbourne1875 as AB and arrived in Sydney 3 days later so I now know that the 3 brothers were in Sydney around Carl's marriage 1881 we have dates to look for Carl arriving between1875-1879 thank you this story is getting intreging I could end up writing a book about "The Tree Norwegian Boys" Thanks
Robyn
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Originally posted by lyndal40
In the records I have looked at for Peter Hansen he is listed as AB, which I think is short for able seaman ie one with some years of experience.
New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922
Name: Peter Hansen
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Age: 23
Port of Departure: Melbourne
Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date: 2 Jun 1879
Vessel Name: Kembla
Origin Location: Norwegian
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Robyn Hand
Junior member
Australia
35 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2012 : 05:34:21
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My goodness this is a surprise what a beautiful beautiful Castle and the history about it and my 2xgg Grand father worked there and the children Christened there too I can't wait to tell my relies what you have found I would love to visit Oslo and see every thing it all looks so fantastic and the history.
I wonder why Carl's marriage cetificate states he was a mariner then Please tell me what does "Garnisonsmenigheten" mean Garrison what?
thank you Robyn
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Originally posted by Kċarto
Add. info from Oslo.
From he married 1844 to 1852 National soldier nr 13. Hans Thoresen was a gunner in 2. Battery at Akershus Fortress
As members of "Garnisonsmenigheten" The Garrison congregation, and all the christian ceremonies for this family was taken place in "Slottskirken" Castle Church
Kċre
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Robyn Hand
Junior member
Australia
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Posted - 04/05/2012 : 05:39:49
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This is what I have found with help feom you all on Ole (Oli) Theodore Hansen
Ole Theodor Hansen
B 7.6.1845 Oslo Norway
Christening 13.7.1845 Garnison Menighet, Oslo Akershus Norway
Naturalized 1.10.1887 Reg. No 10 Page 178
Occupation Blacksmith Smith
Census 1903 living 12 Glouester St The Rocks
D 2.12.1923 (16655) Canterbury. Hans T & Martha C
Burried Rookwood age 78 yrs Grave 869-870 Sect 7 Row 20 Anglican
M 1879 Melbourne (3949)
Mary Louisa Nicolls
B 1855
D 19.12.1936 81 yrs Marrickville (22891) father Thomas Frederick Nicholls no mother mentioned
Burried Rookwood age 81 yrs Grave 869-870 Sect 7 Row 20 Anglican
Census 1903 living 2 Argyle St The Rocks
Children
Eliza Catrina Hansen
B 1880 S,bridge Vic
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Bernhard Frederick Hansen M Amy Ruth Walton Children
B 1882 Sydney 1903 B Herbert James D 1980?
D 1973 Sydney D 1958 Sydney
Hilda Louisa Hansen
B 1884 Sydney
D 1886 Glebe
Theodor H M Hansen
B 1886 Sydney
D 1911 Sydney
Alice Josephine Mary Hansen
B 1886 Sydney
D 1979?
Dagmar M Hansen
B 1889 Sydney
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Percy N Hansen M Jessie M Mackenzie
B 1892 Sydney 1920 B
D Sydney
Harold C Hansen
Claude H T Hansen M Rosa B Woolcott
B 1894 Sydney 1916 B
D Petersham
Arthur T Hansen M Clara L Dakin
B 1898 Sydney 1924 B
D Chatswood
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Robyn Hand
Junior member
Australia
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Posted - 04/05/2012 : 05:42:03
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and this is all I have on Petter Bernard Hansen
Petter Bernhard Hansen
Birth: 08 Nov 1857
Christening: 10 Jan 1858, Garnison Menighet, Oslo, Akershus, Norway
D 12.3.1930 (2131) Home of Peace Marrickville Sydney parents Hans & Martha
Burried Rookwood age 72 yrs Grave 869-870 Sect 7 Row 20 Anglican
Occupation Sailor A.B.
No Marriage is found NSW
Naturalized 3.7.1894 Reg No 12 Page 238
Not on the 1903 Census
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Robyn Hand
Junior member
Australia
35 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2012 : 06:27:38
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This is what I have on Carl F Hansen
Carl (Karl Charles) Frederik Hansen Parents Hans Thoresen and Merte Cathrine Olsdr/Olsen
B 8.1.1850 Akershus Oslo, Norway
Christ: 9.6.1850 Garnison Menighet, Oslo, Akershus, Norway
D 4.6.1927 (6547) Home of Peace Nursing Home Marrickville NSW
Burried Rookwood Sydney NSW Sect 10. Row 8 grave 1312
Occupation Farmer
M 20.7.1881 Sydney NSW
Isabella Graham Parents William Graham & Esther Lowry
B 12.4.1859 Momeen Donegal Ireland
Bap: 27.5.1859 St Johnson Church Momeen Donegal Ireland
D 25.1.1893 (13003) Riverstone NSW Parents Ester & John
Burr: St Matthews Windsor NSW
Children
William Henry Hanson This is my great Grand Father rhhand@hotmail.com
B. 20th May 1882 Redfern. NSW
D 27th February 1972 Lord Howe Island NSW
No Marriage
Amy Conwell Child Ellen Rose Conwell B. 14th July 1902 Glebe D 9.3.1978 Sydney
B 1885 Redfern (10713)
D 20.2.1975 Sydney
Frances H Hanson
B. 1883 Sydney NSW
D Sydney
Married 1903 Sydney
Robert Anderson
Children
Isabella B 1904 Syd.
Gladys I B 1908 Syd.
Robert W B 1911 Syd
Dorothy M B 1916 Syd.
Mary F B 1918 Syd
Isabella K Hansen
B 1886 Sydney NSW
D 25th October 1968 Lord Howe Island NSW
Married 1900 Lord Howe Island
John M Thompson
B 1878 LHI
D 8th January 1962 LHI
Children
Phillip M B 1900 LHI.
Daisy Frances B 1903 LHI.
Gladys R B 1905 LHI.
Hilda B? LHI.
Elesie B 1910 LHI.
John B? LHI.
John B 1920 LHI.
Charles Bernard Hansen
B. 1887 Sydney. NSW
D. 1889 Sydney NSW
Charles Bernard Hanson
B. 28th August 1889 Riverstone
D. 3rd December 1918 Villers-Bretonneux France Killed in Action Pte Hansen C B 5593 20th Bn Australian Inf . X11.BB.5.AWM 145 Roll of Honour
Married 1911 Sydney
Alice Unitt
Children
Doris M B 1912 Syd
Alice F B 1914 Syd
Charles B B 1916 Syd
Mathew Hansen
B 6th August 1891 No Record Windsor Gazette (Newspaper)
D 8th August 1891 Riverstone NSW
Bethia Francis Woolcott Hansen
B. 1893 Riverstone. NSW
D?
Married 1921 Sydney
Edward Yule
Child
Bethia Joan Yule
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