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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 04/05/2012 : 10:12:03
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Hi Robyn.
A Garrison was a permanent crew in a military fortress as Akershus Fortress in Oslo.
Oslo Castle church "Slottskirken" in Akershus Fortress "Akershus Festning" was former a subparish in Christiania/Oslo and the milirtary church in Oslo until 1938.
The interior in the Castle church established in the 1500s is from 1750
An explonation of a Garrison in English here
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Edited by - Kċarto on 04/05/2012 10:19:31 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 04/05/2012 : 11:14:32
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Hans Thoresen was born Sept 26 and baptized Oct 5 1817, see record #58. He was born out of wedlock, his mother was Inge Hansdatter, Leuften and his father Thorer Nielsen, Brotnov-eie.
Parish records for Marthe Cathrine Olsdatter are not available, - Eidsvold parish records were destroyed in a fire for the periode in question.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 04/05/2012 : 11:39:33
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This info is already given.
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Robyn Hand
Junior member
Australia
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Posted - 04/05/2012 : 13:35:18
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Thank you very much I love history and anything as old as this with all of its history is fantastic and to think my fore father had something of that History is something to be very proud of. I know that I will never be able to see it with my own eyes but what you have sent me is has opened a new direction for my family tree so thank again
Robyn quote:
Originally posted by Kċarto
Hi Robyn.
A Garrison was a permanent crew in a military fortress as Akershus Fortress in Oslo.
Oslo Castle church "Slottskirken" in Akershus Fortress "Akershus Festning" was former a subparish in Christiania/Oslo and the milirtary church in Oslo until 1938.
The interior in the Castle church established in the 1500s is from 1750
An explonation of a Garrison in English here
Kċre
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Robyn Hand
Junior member
Australia
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Posted - 04/05/2012 : 13:37:21
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Its doesn't matter if its repeated I might have missed all of this information I love it thanks again
Robyn
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Originally posted by jwiborg
This info is already given.
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/05/2012 : 00:14:37
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Hans Toresen
Birth: 26 Sep 1817
Christening: 05 Oct 1817, Ullensaker, Akershus, Norway
Parents: Thorer Nielsen & Inge Hansdr
Jan Peter
Ullensaker is a municipality north of Oslo link
Ullensaker has several churches today, in 1817 the only church was Hovin church from 1695, link
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/05/2012 : 00:44:52
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Hans Thoresen´s father was from Brotnov-eie, a subfarm under Brotvov and his mother was from Leusten-eie, a subfarm under Leusten.
The ending -eie means owned by.
Hans Thoresen was confirmated 1832 living on Leusten-eie, his lastname was written Tholsen, Hans Tholsen, and his fathers firstname Thol instead of Thorer, see right page #21
Photo of Brotnov main farm, see here
The name Brotnov comes from the old word brotinn, an ancient burial mound looted.
The largest burial mound in N. Europe, "Raknehaugen" Raknis Mound is in Ullensaker.
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Robyn Hand
Junior member
Australia
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Posted - 05/05/2012 : 16:42:21
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Well that was fantastic reading about Raknis Mound its like being in Egypt you are so lucky having all that history in your back yard this country of Australia is only 200 years, your old the Churches and Castles what else is there, I will get on to Google Earth and have a good look and dream about being in Norway. Hans Thorsen confimation in 1832 is pretty hard to read but I finally found it, the name Thol doesn't really matter does it?
Brotnov Farm my goodness it is a huge barn it looked like and Army Shed.
What I need to find now is a very clear map of Norway so I can put it with the family tree even put it on the front of the book. I will have a book after all the info you great people have sent me at least now I have an answer to my question When was he born and where did my great grand father live I think I have the answer now and I will keep looking for things, I still do not know what ship Carl took to get out here may be I will never now. I have started to look for the desendance of Ole Theodore here in Sydney. I did write a an e-mail to Dianne Bates but she might not get it because she might not be a member of Ancestry.com anymore I will try to do a search for her now I have put all this together.
If you come up with any more things I would be very gratful.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/05/2012 : 17:38:47
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Hans Thoresen´s father was from Brotnov-eie, a subfarm under Brotvov and his mother was from Leusten-eie, a subfarm under Leusten
- just nit-picking, census for Ullensaker say Leuften as the name of the farm.
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/05/2012 : 18:36:57
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Hi.
There were no rules for how a name was written, the priest wrote as he heard the name was pronounced.
An ordinary name as John was also written Jon, Joen, Ion.
There were no Thol in Ullensaker to my knowledge, the 1801 census has only Thore or Thorer .
Thol Nielsen was Thorer Nielsen.
Archaeology is interesting in Norway, some findings are thousands of years old.
I was hoping to find a familytree or similar information.
Australia is one of the farthest inhabited areas from Norway, N. Zealand is actually on the opposite side of the globe from Norway.
If I find some of interest I will share it with you.
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/05/2012 : 17:21:31
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Originally posted by Robyn Hand
Brotnov Farm my goodness it is a huge barn it looked like and Army Shed.
Thank you Regards Robyn
Brotnov was actually an officer farm in the 1600. and 1700s.
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 06/05/2012 : 18:42:59
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Hi.
If it is only a coincidence or facts I do not know, but the names and that both were in the army fits.
Rĝgler 1801.
Thore Nilsen on a subfarm under Rĝgler, occ. unmarried "Reseve Dragun" Reserve Cavalryman.
Parents, "Husmand" Cottager Niels Erichsen and Blanse Haagensdatter
See almost at the bottom of the page here
In ca 1844 Hans Thoresen was in the artillery in Oslo.
"Skattematrikkel 1838" Cadastre for Hovin in Ullensaker, Hans Thoresen on farm "Do" an abbreviaton for Ditto, same as above on previous page; a sub farm under Rĝgler.
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Robyn Hand
Junior member
Australia
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Posted - 07/05/2012 : 03:13:14
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Thanks that is very interesting but when you send me that links I can't read them it it possible you can convert it all to English for me. How far is Rogler away from the Castle Akershus?
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Originally posted by Kċarto
Hi.
If it is only a coincidence or facts I do not know, but the names and that both were in the army fits.
Rĝgler 1801.
Thore Nilsen on a subfarm under Rĝgler, occ. unmarried "Reseve Dragun" Reserve Cavalryman.
Parents, "Husmand" Cottager Niels Erichsen and Blanse Haagensdatter
See almost at the bottom of the page here
In ca 1844 Hans Thoresen was in the artillery in Oslo.
"Skattematrikkel 1838" Cadastre for Hovin in Ullensaker, Hans Thoresen on farm "Do" an abbreviaton for Ditto, same as above on previous page; a sub farm under Rĝgler.
Kċre
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Robyn Hand
Junior member
Australia
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Posted - 07/05/2012 : 03:24:34
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I hope that someone in Norway is tracing this tree I know it would help complete their tree knowing where the three boys are. I have the same here with Carl he has spelt his name Karl Hanson Charles Hansen you just have to take all names and record it until there is more proof even the names of places is different.
During tracking Carl done here in NSW there is thousands of men from Norway I help a society of people transcribing the old shipping records because in about 20 years when us oldies (HA HA) have died off the next Gen will not be able to read the old quil writing and doing that there is approx 2 to 3 men on board every ship are Denmark and Norway sailors. If you or any body needs help with anything over here I would love to give you a hand and help I have lots of Cd's on BDM in Victoria, NSW, Western Australia, Queensland and Tasmania.
keep looking Ta,
Kind regards Robyn
quote:
Originally posted by Kċarto
Hi.
There were no rules for how a name was written, the priest wrote as he heard the name was pronounced.
An ordinary name as John was also written Jon, Joen, Ion.
There were no Thol in Ullensaker to my knowledge, the 1801 census has only Thore or Thorer .
Thol Nielsen was Thorer Nielsen.
Archaeology is interesting in Norway, some findings are thousands of years old.
I was hoping to find a familytree or similar information.
Australia is one of the farthest inhabited areas from Norway, N. Zealand is actually on the opposite side of the globe from Norway.
If I find some of interest I will share it with you.
Kċre
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2012 : 10:50:50
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Let´s hope someone in Norway are looking into this topic.
The distance from Hovin church to Akershus Fortress, ca 50 kilometer.
Some links are only in Norwegian, I can send you a good Norwegian-American dictionary ment for the "old" 1800 language and a modern translater later today.
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