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tedwinter
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 Posted - 20/06/2013 : 22:09:56
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I accepted that they had their different last names that were based on farm where they were born on. I wondered about what happened to Ingebrigt (Engle)'s brother, Peder Monsen Kvile. Was he still in Norway or emigrated to America? Yes, you are right one of Agnete Thorine died. Another sister, Agete died, too. Mons Pedersen Reed's parents Peder Thorsen Reed 1796-1829 and Agnete Arnesdatter Reed 1809-1878 and grandparents,Thor Davidsen Rheed 1792-? and Maria Pedersdatter Rheed ?-?. Thor's parents were David Thorsen Rheed and Christi Jacobsdatter Hoyloe. they were married Oct. 8, 1760. Reed were very dominant in Mons' family.
Ingebrigt (Engle)'s wife was
Marie Jacobsdatter Valaker (Valager) <-- Jacob Andersen Valager 1838-1865 and Brithe Larsdatter Solvberg 1839-1918, <-- Anders Jacobsen Valager 1810-1835 and Mari Jacobsdatter Reed 1810-1895, <-- Jacob Andersen Vallager and kari Handsdatter Rand. All were born in same farm. Correct? Valager, Vallager, Wallager
are Overseeter and Ovre Satre same?
thanks again People work for Norway Heritage are very kind and helpful. I really appreciated it. |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 20/06/2013 : 22:59:55
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Originally posted by tedwinter
are Overseeter and Ovre Satre same?
Should be. Both translate to upper summer pasture/cabin
over/øvre: upper
seter: A summer pasture, especially one in the mountains of Scandinavia, to which a farmer takes livestock as part of transhumance.
transhumance: the moving of cattle or other grazing animals to new pastures, often quite distant, according to the change in season
A seter in Gudbrandsdal, Norway, situated above the tree line in the mountains and used for summer pasture.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 20/06/2013 : 23:05:23
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Øversæter and Øvre Sætre is the same, there were 6 farms named Øvre Sætre in Gloppen in 1865.
I cant find any Peder Monsen Kvile either in the 1900 or in the 1910 cenus or as em. from Bergen or in any cementery.
Searching for Peder Monsen Kvile an Peder Andersen Kvile b. -79 is popping up every time.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 21/06/2013 : 00:11:46
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Confirmation record #30, 1886 Peder Monsen Dale
Foreman Peder Monsen Dale
Born Gloppen, residence Styvedal.
Dead 09 Nov 1904. Fatal explosion during tunnelwork.
Under burial it says: "Not buried here"
The tunnelwork would be on the Bergensbanen railroad, which has almost 200 tunnels, the longest being 10.3 km long (6.4 mi).
Original record: Peder Monsen Dale
Source: Sogn og Fjordane county, Flåm in Aurland, Parish register (official) nr. C 1 (1880-1921), Death and burial records 1901-1905, page 101.
Railroad worker Peder M. Dale living at the Seltuftbergenebarakke barrack in Aurland, S&F, census-1900, together with other railroad workers.
Listed as single lodger, and married.
Marriage record #5, 25 Oct 1897
Peder Monsen Dale b. 1872 & Henrikke Kristine Henriksdatter Underli b. 1877
Source: Sogn og Fjordane county, Vevring in Førde, Parish register (official) nr. E 1 (1881-1911), Marriage records 1896-1897, page 141.
Wife Henrikke Henriksdatter on Underli farm in Vevring, Sogn og Fjordane, census-1900:
Ane J. Underli, widow, born 1853. (Mother to Henrikke Henriksdatter)
Henrikke Henriksdatter, married, born 1877
Henrik P. Dahle, born 1897, son.
Maria P. Dahle, born 30 nov 1899, daughter.
Marte Absalonsdatter, born 1829. (Mother to Ane J. Underli)
Henrik Andreas, born 20 Dec 1897, Vevring in Førde, Sogn og Fjordane.
Marie Bergitte, born 30 Nov 1899, Voss in Voss, Hordaland.
Bertine Andrine, born 07 Nov 1901, Breim in Gloppen, Sogn og Fjordane
Konrad Anfinn, born 29 Sep 1903, Vevring in Førde, Sogn og Fjordane.
Census-1910
 
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jwiborg
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Posted - 21/06/2013 : 00:40:03
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Here you can find pictures from the construction of the Bergensbanen railroad, which took place 1871-1909.
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tedwinter
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Posted - 21/06/2013 : 06:07:54
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Jwiborg
Thank you for finding Peder Monsen Dale (Kvile). he died in tunnel explosion during the year of 1904. Interesting and sad. His marriage record (Oct. 25, 1897) jumped at me at first. Why? I saw the end of columns saying "Forloverness Navne og Bopcel" It said Ingebrigt Monsen Dale. Who was he? Was he Mons Pedersen Dale's father? I am very curious about Ingebrigt because I was told that Mons Pedersen Reed/Dale was a son of Peder Thorsen Reed. It got me confused. Can you find out about Ingebrigt Monsen Dale? wow! I learned more and become excited. I will tell Sam Dale about Engle (Ingebrigt)'s brother, Peder. Great Job! |
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tedwinter
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Posted - 21/06/2013 : 07:05:34
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Jwiborg
Oh I found out who Ingebright Monsen Dale was. He was Peder Monsen Dale's brother. No worry or search. Thanks. |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 21/06/2013 : 14:36:28
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The two daughters of Peder Monsen Dale:
Marie Birgitte Russenes, born 30 Nov 1899, dead 27 Jul 1990, Askvoll, Sogn og Fjordane.
=> Andreas Laurits Russenes (24 Apr 1897 - 22 Jun 1978)
Berthine Andrina Underseth, born 07 Nov 1901, dead 30 Sep 1992, Askvoll, Sogn og Fjordane.
=> Olav O Underseth (07 Feb 1896 - 03 Mar 1977)
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tedwinter
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Posted - 17/08/2013 : 00:21:33
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| Hi I am collecting so much information on Reed/Oversetter and Valager/Solvberg so far. Now I started to realize that Mons Pedersen Reed (Dale)'s parents died at young ages. Mons' father, Peder Thorsen Reed died June 20, 1849 at age 53. and Mons' mother, Agnete Arnesdatter Reed died June 20, 1851 at age 42 Mons' grandparents, Thor Davidsen Reed died 1843 at age 84 and Maria Pedersen Reed (Sandalen) died 1833 at age 63. Who raised Mons and his brothers, Arne, Thor, Rasmus and David. They lived in Briem, Gloppen, Sogn og Fjordane. I am still curious for why Mons's last name changed to Dale from Reed. Most of his parents and grandparents were gone. None of Mons' uncles and aunts married to Dale. Wonder if Norway had any records for who adopted the children. Does it? Mons Pedersen Reed (Dale) born July 23, 1843 on Dale farm. Thanks. Ted Winter |
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tedwinter
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Posted - 17/08/2013 : 21:38:28
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thanks for info. Yes, I was aware that Mons lived with his brother, Arne and his family in 1865 Census. I wished 1850-55 Census there. Last night I found that Mons' brother, Arne Pedersen Reed (21) married Inger? Ingebrigtsdatter Ovre-Soter on April 12, 1852. Maybe Arne and his wife lived with Mons when he was 9 years old. I was told that Mons was born on Dale farm.. I will try what you gave me - the lists of Online. |
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eibache
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Posted - 18/08/2013 : 09:08:55
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Arne Pedersen, Reed (21) married Tora Ingebrigtsdatter, Øvre-Sæter (23) on April 12, 1852, see #17.
Their daughter Agnete was born Nov 27 1854, #65.
Tora Ingebrigtsdatter died March 2 1855, #9. |
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eibache
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Posted - 18/08/2013 : 09:15:23
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Widower Arne Pedersen, Reed and Ragnild Olsdatter, Midt Kandal were married Nov 11 1855, #22.
Their firs child Tora was named after Arnes first wife, #48.
Ragnilds parents Ole Olsen and Marte Nilsdatter in 1865.
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eibache
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Posted - 18/08/2013 : 09:18:53
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I was told that Mons was born on Dale farm
Mons was born on Reed, see baptismal record #33.
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tedwinter
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Posted - 18/08/2013 : 21:19:34
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thanks for help. I was surprised that Thora Ingebrigtsdatter Ovre-Saeter (1828) was a sister of Brithe Ingebrigtsdatter O-S (1836) who married Mons Pedersen Reed on June 23, 1871. Thora died at age 26. I see that Arne married another woman - Ragnild.
How did you know that Mons was born on Reed? I did not see anything except his parents' last names - Reed. #33 Who was Rasmus Williamsen Reed on the end of column "Om og at beem biemmebst"
Mons' maternal grandmother, Kari Rasmusdatter (Saarem) Reed died Aug. 19, 1860 at age 55. Mons' maternal grandfather, Arne Brynildsen Reed died 1827. Maybe Kari helped raising Mons, Arne, Thor, Rasmus and David when they were little. Arne was 13 when Mons was born. I am figuring out for who cared Reed boys. Maybe Arne Pedersen Reed did most time.
Arne Pedersen Reed (1830) married 1) Thora Ovre-Saeter, then 2) Ragnild Kandal on 1855 (above) (new information on Thora) thanks Einar
Thor Pedersen Reed (1832) married Anna Catherine Christophersdatter ? (cannot read) on Apr. 17, 1859
Rasmus Pedersen Reed (1835) married Anna Elizabeth Hansen on Oct. 18, 1866
David Pedersen Reed (1837) I cannot find who he married to. He died Nov. 4, 1848.
Mons Pedersen Reed (1843) married Brithe Ingebrigtsdtr Ovre-Saeter on June 23, 1871
Try my best. Thanks again Ted
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Two Dale Brothers came to Minnesota from Norway
