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cbatt
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 Posted - 15/10/2013 : 22:06:56
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| George isnt on that list. He must have already left home. He got married in 1901. This is my grandfather. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 15/10/2013 : 22:22:12
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George should be included among the 7 children she said was living by 1900, no matter if he lived in the household or not.
Could Andrew Archie Ward (Thompson) or John P. (Jack) Thompson be the son of Austin Granger and his first wife?
Jan Peter
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cbatt
Junior member
Canada
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Posted - 15/10/2013 : 22:26:06
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| I only know about the 8. All 8 were accounted for . The one that is deceased on the census is a mystery to me. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 15/10/2013 : 22:27:27
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Here is a Nicholas Thompson in the 1855 Wisconsin state census. Age / sex categories only:
The Milwaukee Nicholas Tompson is probably not the posters ancestor.
1850 United States Federal Census
Name: Nicholas Thompson
Age: 35
Birth Year: abt 1815
Birthplace: Denmark
Home in 1850: Milwaukee Ward 5, Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Gender: Male
Family Number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
Nicholas Thompson 35
Dorothea Thompson 35
Otho Thompson1
1860 United States Federal Census
Name: Nicholas Thompson
Age in 1860: 45
Birth Year: abt 1815
Birthplace: Denmark
Home in 1860: Milwaukee Ward 5, Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Gender: Male
Post Office: Milwaukee
Plus wife and children not listed here. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 15/10/2013 : 22:53:20
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Originally posted by jwiborg
Maybe the original birth records could shed some lights on the fathers name/age?
1. George Albert Thompson ( 1877 - ) Born in Bloomer, Chippewa, Wis?
2. Richard N. Thompson (14 Sep 1879 - 1952) Born near Ridgeland, Dunn, Wis.
3. Andrew Archie Ward (Thompson) (29 Dec 1883 - 04 Feb 1965) Born at Barron County, Wis.
4. John P. (Jack) Thompson (21 Dec 1884 - 01 May 1966) Born at Barron County, Wis.
5. Ella May Granger Inscho (18 Nov 1886 - 19 Jan 1980) Born at Barron County, Wis.
6. Effie Granger Smith (11 Aug 1888 - 08 Nov 1976) Born at Barron County, Wis.
7, Samuel Granger ( Nov 1893 - )
8. Archie Granger ( Feb 1896 - )
As previously mentioned, which child died before 1900? All these 8 are living by census-1900, which says that Mary Ann have given birth to 8, 7 living.
A good source for Barron county records: http://wigenweb.org/barron/
Jan Peter
Are the above birth dates and birth names as you found them in a birth record? Or were you saying these should be checked?
1880 in Sheridan, Dunn, Wisconsin shows George and Richard with parents Thomas and Marion Thompson. Archie #1 (later adopted by Wards) and John born 1884 are also children of Thomas Thompson per birth records posted by Jan Peter (if I am interpreting that right) and also per assertion of cbatt (no source given). Thomas died 1885. Mary Ann married Austin Granger February 1886. Ella May Granger was born Nov 1886**. Effie, Samuel and Archie #2 followed.
(** 1900 census lists "May" born Dec 1885 - birth list above says Nov 1886. If the 1900 census is right May was born before Mary Ann married Austin.)
Since all eight are alive in 1900, then the 1900 census erred in stating Mary Ann had only 7 living children. Perhaps she was asked how many children do you have? Answer: 7. She was asked, how many children have you given birth to? She answered, 8. Then that would be correct, even though no one of them died. I can imagine a census taker handling the questions that way - instead of saying, Have any of your children died?
Re 1900 census posted - Arthur (born Feb 1881) is a child of Austin's first marriage. "Arthur Granger, a modern and progressive farmer ...the son of Austin and Ada (Reirdon) Granger..." SOURCE: History of Barron County, Wisconsin pub 1922
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cbatt
Junior member
Canada
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Posted - 16/10/2013 : 00:08:58
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| I know where all the above are buried and the names and birthdate are right. Austin and Ada could have an Archie to,I only thought they had a daughter. I have tried to find the 8 children's birth records but haven't been able to. I can only find there marriage papers. |
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cbatt
Junior member
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Posted - 16/10/2013 : 02:20:13
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| Is this book " history of Barron County, Wisconsin" on line? I wouldn't mind looking at it. |
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JaneC
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USA
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cbatt
Junior member
Canada
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Posted - 16/10/2013 : 03:02:16
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| Ada was his first wife, Mary my great grandmother was his second wife. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 16/10/2013 : 03:26:37
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Oh yes - sorry! You meant Austin and Ada could have an ARTHUR. Yes, they did.
Who was the daughter? |
Edited by - JaneC on 16/10/2013 04:05:35 |
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cbatt
Junior member
Canada
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Posted - 16/10/2013 : 04:54:13
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| The daughters name was Brydette , born 1879. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 16/10/2013 : 08:33:18
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The reason to be clear about the birthdates of the children was to help give a time framework to the demise of Thomas Thompson. The daughter May (or Ella May) has a birthdate in the census of Dec 1885, which if, her father was Thomas, means he was still living in about March 1885.
Re the 8 vs 7 sitation, also makes me wonder. There is a gap of about 5 years amongst the Granger children between Effie and Samuel, perfect time for a baby to be born during primetime and then gone. Since there don't appear to be "official" birth records for the family members, it's possible that there was one that went missing.
But its all rather academic. More pressing issue is how to resolve Thomas' birthdate 1835 vs 1855. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 16/10/2013 : 14:51:30
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Originally posted by jwiborg
Jan Peter
Above, 1900 census. Arthur is a child of Austin Granger's first marriage with Ada Reardon.
5 kids of Mary Ann - George, John, Ella MAY, Samuel, Archie, moved to Estevan, Saskatchewan, Canada.
1 kid of Mary Ann - Archie (Ward) joined them.
2 kids of Mary Ann - Richard and Effie stayed in Wisconsin.
= 8 kids born to Mary Ann, 8 living in 1900
The solution that Mary Ann may have had an unknown baby who died does not help to explain why there are 8 living children instead of 7 on the list above.
Back in an edit to add the 1880 for Austin and Ada:
1880
Dallas, Barron, Wisconsin
Austin Granger 33 b abt 1847 WI
Ade Granger 19 b abt 1861 WI
Brydette Granger 1 son [sic]
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cbatt
Junior member
Canada
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Posted - 16/10/2013 : 15:34:53
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| Austin and Mary got Married February of 1886 and Ella was born Nov of 1886. |
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jkmarler
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Looking for information on Thomas Thompson
