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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 18/12/2013 : 06:39:32
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Originally posted by jkmarler
It's Petter Bertel here at findagrave.com:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=TA&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSst=25&GScntry=4&GSsr=1041&GRid=59674957&
From Bertel Talaasen 1932 obit: "Mr. Talaasen is survived by ... a brother, Peter Sather of Thief River Falls [Pennington county, Minnesota], and a sister, Mrs. Charles Larson of Clayton, [Stevens], Washington."
"Mrs. Charles Larson" = Johanna Persdatter who married Johnnes Johnsen Nordby and next married Charles Larson lived in Clayton, Stevens, Washington and died there 1954.
The immigration record you found had Johanna and family traveling to Thief River Falls, to a pastor there.
US Alien Registration of 1918
Sater, Pete
Age: 42 [=born about 1876]
Thief River Falls, Pennington, Minnesota
Roll No. 123, Frame No. 0532
http://mndiscoverycenter.com/research/recorddisplay.php?recordID=97994&typeID=1
Minnesota Naturalization Record at Iron Range Discovery Center
This could be him:
http://mndiscoverycenter.com/research/recorddisplay.php?recordID=691982&typeID=8
Minnesota Death Record at Minnesota Historical Society
SATER, PETER
Date of Birth: 13 JUN 1876
Place of Birth: OUT OF STATE
Mother Maiden Name: NA
CERTID# 1962-MN-014940
Date of Death: 18 DEC 1962
County of Death: PENNINGTON
The original can be ordered and would have more information than this brief, online transcription. The birth date is off by one day.
An obituary was published, says he was buried Rindal Cemetery:
http://pchs.org/cemeteries/?ObitSurname=Sater&ObitFirstName=Peter&ObitMOD=&ObitDOD=&ObitYOD=&ObitAge=&ObitPlace=&ObitSearch=Search+%3E%3E
Below, this information may refer to a different Peter.
Notice in the Warren Sheaf newspaper (Warren is a neighboring community to Thief River Falls)
09 November 1921:
"Marriage licenses have been issues by the clerk of court's office to the following couples: ...Peter Sater to Clara Stoe..."
1940 census in Thief River this Peter Sater (who married Clara Stoe) is only age 54 (different guy? census error?), born in Norway, widowed with three children: Clifford age 17, Robert age 12, and Lydia 8. Matches Minnesota Birth Index:
SATER, ROBERT GLEN
Date of Birth: 20 MAY 1927
Mother Maiden Name: STOR
CERTID# 1927-22039
County of Birth: PENNINGTON
SATER, LYDIA JOSEPHINE
Date of Birth: 03 SEP 1931
Mother Maiden Name: STOE
CERTID# 1931-20877
County of Birth: PENNINGTON
Robert Glen Sater is buried here,
Birth: 20 May 1927. Death 06 Mar 1986
Burial: Willamette National Cemetery, Portland, Multnomah, Oregon:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Sater&GSfn=Robert&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=36362784&df=all&
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 18/12/2013 : 19:44:09
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Posted previously by lyndal40, information from a Family Tree on Ancestry.com
Petter Bertel Talaasen, born 11 APR 1881 in Norway; died 31 MAR 1932 in Glenwood, ]Pope county], Minnesota
Laura Belsine Gerde, born 12 DEC 1888; died 10 JUL 1951 in Glenwood, [Pope county], Minnesota
found by lyndal40:
1920 US Census
Kickapoo, Mountrail, North Dakota
Baurth Talaasen 39, b abt 1881 in Norway, to USA 1902
Laura Talaasen 32
Lennie Talaasen 12
Palmer Talaasen 9
Blanche Talaasen 5
from Bertel Talaasen 1932 obituary (posted on Find-a-Grave, as found by jkmarler):
"...survived by a son Palmer in Glenwood..."
wife Laura obituary 1951 lists survivors "Lennie (Mrs. John Zagurski) of Glenwood; Palmer of Montevideo; and Blanche (Mrs. Wm. B. Scott) of Glenwood."
Newspaper article, St Paul Dispatch, [St Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota] 16 July 1940:
"Mr and Mrs John Henry Otting, today announce the engagement of their daughter, Miss Margaret, to Mr Palmer Talaasen of Montevedeo, Minnesota. The wedding will take place August 10 in the Otting home. Miss Otting is a graduate of Miss Wood's Kindergarten and Primary Training school in Minneapolis. The couple will live in Montevideo...."
http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/link.php?action=detail&id=42931
Find-a-Grave memorial to Margaret Evangeline Otting Talaasen:
born 23 Apr 1909 in Grant county, Minnesota, parents John Henry Otting and Ida Charlotte Holmquist
died 04 Mar 1981 in Lake of the Woods county, Minnesota
burial Scandinavian Grove Cemetery in Norseland, Nicollet, Minnesota (where her parents are buried)
Back in an edit: now along comes a family tree online for Petter Bertel Talaasen (1881 - 1932):
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/g/e/r/Percy-D-Gerde/BOOK-0001/0002-0017.html
I think Lennie died 2002 in Omaha, Douglas, Nebraska. Husband John J Zagurski obit 1996 indexed here (not reproduced in full):
http://omahaobits.wordpress.com/x-y-z/
I think Palmer Talaasen died 2005 in Hubbard, Minnesota |
Edited by - JaneC on 19/12/2013 05:59:22 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 18/12/2013 : 23:20:13
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Probably Peter in the 1920 US Census, Single
1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Peter Sater
[Peter Sato]
Age: 42
Birth Year: abt 1878
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1920: Thief River Falls Ward 3, Pennington, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1902
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
John E Gusatafson 31
Clara Gustafson 26
Peter Sater42 |
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jkmarler
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/12/2013 : 01:35:06
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And probably him in 1940 widowed, age is off by 10 years, but the children are right. Actually found by JaneC above.
1940 United States Federal Census
Name: Pete Sater
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Norway
Marital Status: Widowed
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: Thief River Falls, Pennington, Minnesota
Map of Home in 1940:
Street: 9th Street
House Number: 303
Inferred Residence in 1935: Thief River Falls, Pennington, Minnesota
Residence in 1935: Same House, Minnesota
Citizenship: Naturalized
Sheet Number: 3A
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 55
Occupation: Janitor
House Owned or Rented: Owned
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 2000
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 8th grade
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 48
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in Government work
Weeks Worked in 1939: 52
Income: 1200
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
Pete Sater 54
Clifford Sater 17
Robert Sater 12
Lydia Sater 8 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 19/12/2013 : 02:34:04
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Here is the 1900 Norwegian Census with at least part of the family. It is clear where at least some of the names come from.
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AntonH
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AntonH
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/12/2013 : 07:31:11
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NICHOLASVILLE -- Lydia Josephine Mellem: Newspaper Obituary and Death Notice
Lexington Herald-Leader (KY) - Sunday, June 18, 2000
Deceased Name:
"NICHOLASVILLE -- Lydia Josephine Mellem
NICHOLASVILLE -- Lydia Josephine Mellem, 68, Southview Drive, widow of Vernon Vincent Mellem, died yesterday. Private services. No visitation. Arrangements, Betts & West Funeral Home. Contributions suggested to Hospice of the Bluegrass."
Edition: Final
Page: B2
Vernon V. Mellem: Social Security Death Index (SSDI) Death Record
Name: Vernon V. Mellem
State of Issue: Railroad Board
Date of Birth: Thursday October 01, 1925
Date of Death: Wednesday April 28, 1999
Est. Age at Death: 73 years, 6 months, 27 days
Confirmation: Verified
Last known residence:
City: Kalispell; Creston; Evergreen
County: Flathead
State: Montana
ZIP Code: 59901
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/12/2013 : 17:54:06
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Yay!
I decided to delete my reference to a living person and accidentally deleted another one of my posts instead. 
Here is the Angelo departing Kristiania in February 1902, bound for Hull, England. From Hull emigrants traveled to a major port, often Liverpool, and departed for the transatlantic trip from there:
http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_route.asp?ro=W47
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/12/2013 : 22:46:43
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Here are Per and brother Petter arriving. They are travelling to an uncle A Dybsand in Sacred Heart Minnesota.
Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
Name: Per Person
Arrival Date: 15 Mar 1902
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Ship Name: Ionian
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Residence Place: Christiania
Age: 25
Birth Date: abt 1877
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: Norwegian
Record Type: Manifests
Line Number: 8
Maybe this family.
1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Anton Dybsand
[Anton Arthur]
Age: 44
Birth Date: Oct 1855
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Sacred Heart, Renville, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1883
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Maria Dybsand
Marriage Year: 1893
Years Married: 7
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Occupation:
Household Members:
Name Age
Anton Dybsand 44
Maria Dybsand 24
Bernt Calaw Dybsand 7
Dora Mable Dybsand 5
Jule Selmar Dybsand 3
Arthur Melvin Dybsand 1
Aron Aatnes 17
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/12/2013 : 22:54:47
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Here is some information from a Family Tree on Anton Dybsand.
Anton Bennie Danielsen Dybsand
Birth Oct 1855 in Trysil, Hedmark, Norway
Death 1910 in Minnesota, USA
This would likely indicate that Anton is a brother to the mother of Per and Petter. Who is listed as Berte Danielsdatter Talaasen born 1852 Trysil by Jan Peter earlier.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/12/2013 : 23:02:30
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The Daniel Olsen family in the 1865 Census. Living on Dybsand.
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/12/2013 : 23:21:19
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Find a Grave Memorial:
Anton Bennie Danielson Dybsand
Birth: Oct 1855, Tynset, Hedmark County, Norway
Death: 28 Mar 1919, Sacred Heart, Renville County, Minnesota, USA
Burial: Our Saviors Lutheran Cemetery in Sacred Heart
SPOUSE: Maria (unknown)
Also buried at Our Saviors in Sacred Heart, a man who fits with the siblings of Berte Danielsdatter in the 1865 Norway census posted by lyndal40:
Per Danielsen Dybsand
Birth: 06 Nov 1853 in Trysil, Hedmark County, Norway
Death: 19 Nov 1939 at Sacred Heart, Renville County, Minnesota, USA
SPOUSE: Emilie Jorgine P. (1869-1909)
Apparently this branch of the family is also included in the family tree posted earlier:
http://www.arildbraathen.com/arild666/pafg103.htm#4173
Berte's brother Julius lived in India in 1875, according to this genealogy. Berte's brother Anton is listed as "Utflyttet til Amerika" and brother Per is "Utvandret til Amerika." Brother Ole was a "lærer og kirkesanger" (teacher and church cantor - two roles that often went hand-in-hand).
Father and family of Berte Danielsdatter here (her brother Per is called Daniel Per):
http://www.myheritage.dk/person-2000020_129047061_129047061/smabruker-daniel-olsen-siekkinen-dybs-5
Anton's son serving in World War I here:
http://www.steivang.no/soldiers.htm
Descendants here:
http://boards.ancestry.com/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=1&p=surnames.dybsand
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Looking for Per Persen and Petter Bertel Persen
