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AntonH
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Posted - 17/12/2013 :  04:47:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe Johanna remarried at some point in time.

1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Johanna Larson
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1875
Birthplace: Norway
Race: White
Home in 1930: Clayton, Stevens, Washington
Map of Home:
Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1903
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charlie Larson
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Household Members:
Name Age
Charlie Larson 56
Johanna Larson 55
Parnell Nordby 25
Jennie M Nordby 19
Johnnie E Nordby 15
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AntonH
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Posted - 17/12/2013 :  05:01:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a record for the first husband of Johanna. Here the date of arrival is 1903. The record also states that he arrived in August in Boston on the Ivernia.

U.S., Naturalization Records - Original Documents, 1795-1972 (World Archives Project)
Name: John Johnsen Nordby
Age: 41
Birth Date: 11 Jan 1875
Birth Location: Hammar, Norway
Spouse: Johanna
Children: Inga; Parnell; Jennie; Ingvold
Arrival Year: 1903
Issue Date: 8 Mar 1916
State: Washington
Locality, Court: Spokane, Washington, District Court

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AntonH
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Posted - 17/12/2013 :  05:05:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the arrival record for the family. There is Johannes, Johanna and Inga. They are going to Thief River Falls MN to a friend Ole Nyhus. Unfortunately not one of Johannes siblings.

Boston, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1954
Name: Johannes Johnsen
Gender: Male
Ethnic Background: Norwegian
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Age: 28
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Ivernia
Arrival Date: 6 Aug 1903
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Ole O Nyhus
Last Residence: Christiania
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JaneC
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Posted - 17/12/2013 :  06:37:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In case it's relevant, Rev. Ola Olsen Haraset Nyhus married Johanna Persdtr. Neby in 1871 in Trysil, Norway; he died in 1918 in Thief River, Pennington, Minnesota, USA.
http://www.trysilhistorielag.com/trysilingers/nyhusolaolsen/



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jkmarler
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Posted - 17/12/2013 :  14:02:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is a Peter Sater in the Washington State Secretary of State's database of marriages. One of the witnesses was a Martin Sater:

http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/Record/View/86FDF1197790412108A9D03CBF875F99
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jkmarler
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Posted - 17/12/2013 :  14:32:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Much married Desema, left side page at top to Ray Silvers:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-9718-29814-10?cc=1662500&wc=6025735

as widow Desema Silvers in 1940:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K93V-695

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JaneC
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Posted - 17/12/2013 :  17:04:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

There is a Peter Sater in the Washington State Secretary of State's database of marriages. One of the witnesses was a Martin Sater:

http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/Record/View/86FDF1197790412108A9D03CBF875F99


This Peter Sater married Helga Karlstad 1908 in Grays Harbor county, Washington.

A groom Martin Sater married a bride Olea Karlstad in 1910 in Grays Harbor county, Washington
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AntonH
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Posted - 17/12/2013 :  17:27:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Departure of Johannes, Johanna and Inga from Norway. Not easy to find same info on Per and Petter.

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=28&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=144285&merk=144285#ovre
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jkmarler
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Posted - 17/12/2013 :  20:31:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the death of a Bert Talaasen, birthyear is 1883 so somewhat iffy:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FDD4-GC3
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jkmarler
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Posted - 17/12/2013 :  21:44:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's Petter Bertel here at findagrave.com:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=TA&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSst=25&GScntry=4&GSsr=1041&GRid=59674957&
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jkmarler
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Posted - 17/12/2013 :  21:58:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is Johanna (with a very strangely rendered name) in 1940:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K9SJ-QB1
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AntonH
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Posted - 18/12/2013 :  04:29:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From a Family Tree on Ancestry.com.

Petter Bertel Talaasen
Birth 11 APR 1881 in Norway
Death 31 MAR 1932 in Glenwood, Minnesota

Laura Belsine Gerde
Birth 12 DEC 1888
Death 10 JUL 1951 in Glenwood, Minnesota
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AntonH
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Posted - 18/12/2013 :  04:33:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the family in 1920 Census.

1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Baurth Talaasen
[Barert Talaasen]
[Baurth Talavera]
Age: 39
Birth Year: abt 1881
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1920: Kickapoo, Mountrail, North Dakota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1902
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Laura Talaasen
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Home Owned: Own
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
Baurth Talaasen 39
Laura Talaasen 32
Lennie Talaasen 12
Palmer Talaasen 9
Blanche Talaasen 5
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AntonH
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Posted - 18/12/2013 :  04:35:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a record with his correct birth date. I think this fairly well nails down Jackie's find. Excellent job Jackie.

U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Baurth Talaasen
County: Mountrail
State: North Dakota
Birth Date: 11 Apr 1880
Race: White
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AntonH
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Posted - 18/12/2013 :  05:03:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
May be a clue to brother Per. On second thought, not likely with what we now know.

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: P Talleson
Gender: Male
Age: 30
Birth Date: abt 1877
Departure Date: 8 May 1907
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Quebec; Montreal, Canada
Ship Name: Lake Champlain
Search Ship Database:
Master: G Webster

Edited by - AntonH on 19/12/2013 22:51:41
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