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lornejohnson
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 Posted - 21/06/2015 : 06:53:48
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Originally posted by lornejohnson
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051011050066.jpg possible daughter Anne ...line 89, 1837. ....Gunild's sister Bergit Halvorsdat. as godparent.....can't decipher the farm name following Bergit's name ??
Lihaegna farm in evidence here.
Bergit Halvorsdatter's farm name is Moen.
So if the farm name for Gunild is Rokliev ...Why does her sister Bergit identify with Moen ? Does this mean that these two are not sisters? |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/06/2015 : 10:31:20
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| No it means they live on separate farms. As adults siblings may or may not be living on the same place. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/06/2015 : 10:41:47
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Rønnou
The penman of this page has a few more flourishes on this letters. The marks above letters are "extra" marks to help distinguish vowels from consonants which are otherwise written very similarly. |
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 21/06/2015 : 16:10:02
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Originally posted by jkmarler
No it means they live on separate farms. As adults siblings may or may not be living on the same place.
Thanks Jackie. I was under the impression that the original farm name became a part of your full name for life. So in fact your farm name would change depending on where you lived?
My ancestor known as Grandma Kleven actually adopted the original farm name as her "known name" ...rather confusing. |
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 21/06/2015 : 21:59:17
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Originally posted by jkmarler
The parents are married and their names are Halvor Olson and Gunnild Halvorsdatter. The child is still in as a potential relation, cannot yet be eliminated. No real help in the faddernes although there is a Jon (rather than Johannes).
Also take a look at #44 on that page, father is Jørgen Halvorsen Lia & mother Ingeri Gjermundsdatter.
Had another look here Jackie at # 44. Looks like it could be related family (son) to Halvor and Gunild ....but I don't see any names that cross over with Johanes Halvorsen's babies. Anything stand out to you?
Any comments on the Fridelgosse (sp?) that appears on both generations of the family ....I assume this is a farm name?
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jkmarler
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Posted - 22/06/2015 : 18:56:50
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Originally posted by lornejohnson
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Originally posted by jkmarler
The parents are married and their names are Halvor Olson and Gunnild Halvorsdatter. The child is still in as a potential relation, cannot yet be eliminated. No real help in the faddernes although there is a Jon (rather than Johannes).
Also take a look at #44 on that page, father is Jørgen Halvorsen Lia & mother Ingeri Gjermundsdatter.
Had another look here Jackie at # 44. Looks like it could be related family (son) to Halvor and Gunild ....but I don't see any names that cross over with Johanes Halvorsen's babies. Anything stand out to you?
Any comments on the Fridelgosse (sp?) that appears on both generations of the family ....I assume this is a farm name?
ægna Bø
I think the farm name you are referring to is Indlæggen in Bø. So far the first names don't indicate any close to the surface connections, though there could be a connection if the information you collect on people reveals it. Keep in mind.
As to what you are saying about the #44 entry, I'm not clear what you mean. This is a child of the marriage of a potential brother of Gunnild, Birgit, & Johannes named Jørgen Halvorsen. So far a link to his first marriage was posted and then a link to a second marriage was posted and then a child #44's baptism (from the second marriage) was posted. He is not a son of Halvor & Gunnild but a potential son of Halvor & Ingebor, that is why he is of interest. His progeny give another avenue of connections to explore for connections to your Johannes Halvorson that is why they may be of interest. |
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 22/06/2015 : 20:14:04
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Sorry my error ...I meant Halvor & Ingeborg's son ...not Gunild's. I was just hoping that you may have seen something in the child's baptism records that I missed ....the names are difficult for me to decipher.
Another question: Are Lihaegna and Haegna farms related? ....as in Little Haegna ?? |
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Edited by - lornejohnson on 22/06/2015 20:20:17 |
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lornejohnson
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 22/06/2015 : 23:58:18
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Johannes and Gunilds Children Baptism Witnesses:
Anders b 1841 Boe
Krysti Johansdat
Margit Halvorsdat Kaasa
Halvor Halvorsen Skougen
Tosten Olsen Hougeland
Guro Handsdat Askilt
Johannes b 1834 Boe
Margit Indlaggen ?
Gunild ??
Annund Hord.....?
Gunild Nilsdat
Ingeborg b 1825 Sauda
Aaste Tollopsen ?
Anne Olsdat
Gunder Olsen
Ole Johnsen
?? Tosten
Nils b 1822 Boe
Aafte Askilt
Aafte Mijloe???
Ingelborg Kleven
Knud Togsol ?
Ole Lunde ?
Halvor b 1819 Boe
Gunild Volene
Margit Hapsot ???
Birgit Lie
2 more ..can't read
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 23/06/2015 : 00:19:03
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http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051011050042.jpg
Number 46 ...Gunnild Halvorsdat daughter Ronnou has a Halvor Halvorsen (Nordboe) as a baptism witness .....common to Anders Johannesen ....Halvor Halvorsen (Skougen) witness ....both children born in Boe |
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Edited by - lornejohnson on 23/06/2015 01:06:24 |
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 06/07/2015 : 18:32:10
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Here is information that I just received from a collaborator that has access to information from several Bydgebok :
Well, we’ll see what I can do. I have helped someone with this family before so had the farm names from that. The farm name Rodklev/Osterli must be in Bo and I do not have records for that area. I only have for Seljord and Flatdal, Amotsdal area. What I have is:
Farm name RUI/RUE Farm No. 62.2
Halvor Jorgenssen Rui 1737 -
Married No. 1 in 1768 with Anne Gunleiksdatter Bakken 1743-1773
Married No. 2 in 1782 with Ingebjorg Jensdatter Haugen 1762-
Children born on Rue farm:
1. Jorgen, 1768-1768
2. Jorgen, 1769-1770
3. Ingebjorg, 1771
4. Helge/Haege, 1772
5. Anne, 1782-
6. Johannes, 1787
They moved to LI ovre (Tobakkli) Farm No. 63.11
Child born on Li was
7. Signe, 1791
Then they must have moved to Bo as I have no more records. after Li it shows a ? That is why I do not show marriages, families or deaths for the children. I do have Halvor’s parents and siblings if you want that.
Good information ...solid evidence of the Li connection ....and another child "Signe" that I will follow up with
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Edited by - lornejohnson on 06/07/2015 18:35:45 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 06/07/2015 : 23:07:05
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Probably the Signe mentioned above. But was she listed in the1801 Census posted on page 5?
Signe Halvorsdatter
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Signe Halvorsdatter
[Signe Jorgensen]
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 6 mar 1791
Baptism Place: Seljord, Telemark, Norway
Father: Halvor Jorgensen
Mother: Ingebor Jensdr
FHL Film Number: 127039
Reference ID: 2:1P6WQCV |
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 06/07/2015 : 23:36:46
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| Based on this Bydgebok information, Halvor Jorgensen had daughter Signe at age 54 with his much younger 2nd wife.....I'm questioning the likelihood of him having daughter's Gunild and Brigette later in life ....in 1812 he is 75 years old ! ........on the other hand these dates are Confirmation/Baptism dates which can happen at a later age...right? |
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Hopkins
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Posted - 07/07/2015 : 00:52:53
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You question that Halvor Jørgensen who had a daughter, Signe, in 1791 when he was 54 years old then having two more daughters in 1794 and 1796?
Why would be there be any big difference between his being a father at 54 or being one again when he was 57 to 59?
Perhaps you should check the birth/baptism records for the two youngest daughters to see if those records verify the names of their parents. |
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 07/07/2015 : 01:48:54
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| I have the information on them Hopkins. I was just doing the math on Halvor's age and marveling at the man's prowess ! |
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Johanes Halvorsen Parents
