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lornejohnson
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 Posted - 20/01/2014 : 18:59:23
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Gunild was born 1790. She is the mother of Halvor Johannesen who sailed to America in 1855 with his wife Rannei Thordat and family. There is no mention of Halvor's mother making the trip to America with her son Halvor in 1855 ....yet there is a 70 year old Cornelia Kleven that shows up on the USA Census of 1860 living with Halvor's family.
I'm looking for any information on Gunild leaving Norway as a 60 year old.....there is also some information about a Andrew Kleven (Cleven) in the USA census of 1860 as a 17 year old living with the Halvor Johannesen (Johnson) family that we think might be related but have no information on. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 20/01/2014 : 23:01:22
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There is this family from the 1860 US Census bearing some resemblance to the people listed in your post. Howeer neiter of them are named Kleven or Cleven, nor are they listed as living with Halvor Johannesen (Johnsen). Are they the same people?
1860 United States Federal Census
Name: Cornelia Johnson
Age in 1860: 70
Birth Year: abt 1790
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1860: Boone, Boone, Illinois
Gender: Female
Post Office: Boone
Value of real estate:
Household Members:
Name Age
Cornelia Johnson 70
Andrew Johnson 17 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 20/01/2014 : 23:03:00
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No Gunild Nilsdatter rec. when Halvor and Rannei em. from Bø in Telemark with 4 children April 1855, see right page family #16
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AntonH
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Posted - 20/01/2014 : 23:12:49
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It is interesting that Ancestry.com links the Cornelia Johnson listed above with Gunhild Nilsdatter. This is the listing Cornelia is linked to.
Norway Marriages, 1600s-1800s
Name: Gunnild Nilsdr
Age: 23 years
Gender: Female
Birth Date: Ca.1795
Marriage Date: 17 nov 1818
Marriage Place: Bo, Telemark, Norway
Spouse: Johanes Halvorsen
Spouse's Age: 26 years
Spouse's Gender: Male
Spouse's Birth Date: Ca.1792 |
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 20/01/2014 : 23:35:23
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| lyndal: Yes I would think they are the same people. The Boone County census (I've been told) indicates them in the same household as Halvor Johannesen ( Johnson) wife Randina (Ranaei) Johnson and children Thor (TOM), Johanne (John), Guinild (Nellie) , Gunder (George), Oliver and Nels. We think she might be Halvor's mother but have no record that she left Norway.?? |
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/01/2014 : 00:25:58
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This is the family directly below Cornelia Johnson and it appears to be the family you have written about, however the man is named Nelson not Halvor? They are listed as different families ie 1932 and 1933. I do not know if that means different places or just different families.
1860 United States Federal Census
Name: Nelson Johnson
Age in 1860: 45
Birth Year: abt 1815
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1860: Boone, Boone, Illinois
Gender: Male
Post Office: Boone
Value of real estate:
Household Members:
Name Age
Nelson Johnson 45
Lena Johnson 48
John Johnson 15
Tore Johnson 13
Henry Johnson 10
Cornelia Johnson 7
Oliver Johnson 4
Nelson Johnson 2 |
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AntonH
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 21/01/2014 : 02:03:51
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| You work the magic lyndal ! This Andrew has been a curiosity for 100 years. He was thought to be a son of Halvor but turns out he is Havor's much younger brother ! If I could find out when he and his mother left Norway it would complete the mystery.....perhaps in the Boe parish records. Thank you ! |
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/01/2014 : 02:15:56
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You work the magic lyndal
Not really, I was using information provided by a Family Tree on Ancestry. com. The tree is called the Halvorsen Tree and is owned by mccartyg_1 and another owned by Debbie Scott of
Nanaimo, British Columbia found in these trees the following people.
Note one tree states the Gunhild died in Norway.
HALVOR Nelson Oliver JOHANNESSON OR JOHNSON
Birth 10 Aug 1819 in Bø, Telemark, Norway
Death 1899 in Butte, Jefferson, Montana, United States
Mother
Gunhild Nilsdatter Kleven
Birth 1795 in Bo, Den, Norway
Death in Norway
Father
Johannes Halvorsen
Birth 1792 in Bo, Den, Norway
Death in Norway
Included were four children besides Halvor and included.
Anders or Andrew Johanesen or Johnson
Birth 19 Sept 1841 in Bo, Telemark, Norway
Death |
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AntonH
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/01/2014 : 02:39:40
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The Pool Family Tree also lists this child, however I did not find the record for this unamed child.
Johanesen
Birth 27 May 1838 in Bo, Telemark, Norway
Death 27 May 1838 in Bo, Telemark, Norway |
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/01/2014 : 03:17:47
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Might be Andrew in the 1870 Census.
1870 United States Federal Census
Name: Andrew Johnson
Age in 1870: 28
Birth Year: abt 1842
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1870: Boone, Boone, Illinois
Race: White
Gender: Male
Post Office: Capron
Value of real estate:
Household Members:
Name Age
Andrew Johnson 28
Sarah Johnson 29
John Johnson 2
Delia Johnson 8/12
Helen Staverson 15
Nellie Staverson 26 |
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 21/01/2014 : 04:45:10
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| I'm on Vancouver Island Canada. Do you have an email for Debbie Scott in Nanaimo ? Thanks again. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/01/2014 : 18:39:02
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| I sent a e-mail through Ancestry.com to Debbie Scott asking her to contact you through this site. |
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Gunild Nilsdatterr Kleven under Askilt
