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lindachristiansen
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 Posted - 02/02/2014 : 03:01:56
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| You mentioned once, that I should post the pictures and things I have found, as it would be helpful to other researchers. How do I do that on this site? |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 02/02/2014 : 03:11:36
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Originally posted by lindachristiansen
...My Dad's name was Oscar Atle Christiansen.
My goodness how interesting!
You found a record that looks like Atle immigrating? Wonderful. I'll try to find it on Ellis Island website (is that where you found it).
Posting things you have found is helpful to other researchers...Yes, if you find a record that is relevant (such as Atle immigration) and share it, then all your collaborators can benefit from the information in that record, and learn still more via those clues. |
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lindachristiansen
Junior member
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Posted - 02/02/2014 : 03:14:35
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| I saved George Christensen world war I draft to Oswald. The spelling is what kept me from finding it before this. I was worried about the spelling of the last name "Christensen" until I looked at his signature and he clearly writes "Christian..." the rest of it fell off the page. He was supporting His mother and sister. I can only assume the sister was the youngest. |
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lindachristiansen
Junior member
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Posted - 02/02/2014 : 03:17:20
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| good question. I'll get back to you about that. |
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lindachristiansen
Junior member
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Posted - 02/02/2014 : 03:19:55
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| I got the info on Atle from Ancestry.com |
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lindachristiansen
Junior member
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Posted - 02/02/2014 : 16:22:06
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Info on Atle V. Christiansen found on Ancestry, but also found on Ellis Island:
Atle V. Christiansen
Occupation: Seaman
Mother: Anne Christiansen
from: from Arendal
destination: Brooklyn, NY
arrival Date: Aug 18, 1914
birthdat: abt 1998
birth place: gistad arental
age on arrival: 16 yrs, 3 months
port of departure: Christiansland
port of arrival: New York, NY
Ships Name: United States |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 02/02/2014 : 20:04:05
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Good find!
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 02/02/2014 : 20:44:18
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I have a photograph of the family with the names hand written by my father.... Also I have many letters and postcards that would give my valuable info if I could just read them.
One idea would be to post them on tinypics website, and post a link here, we can see them and maybe help to read them.
http://tinypic.com/
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lindachristiansen
Junior member
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Posted - 03/02/2014 : 01:53:54
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| You did better than I did. I couldn't read much beyond dates and maybe names, but it does make sense. The date is right. What I find interesting, however, is that Kristian is spelled with a Ch here instead of a K. The 1965 census had the K spelling. Is it interchangeable in Norway? |
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lindachristiansen
Junior member
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Posted - 03/02/2014 : 02:00:41
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| At first I thought you were on to something concerning Atle, and I am not ruling it out. I checked out the date of my father's Uncle Oscar's death, but that did not take place till 3 years after he was born. I will see what I can find, however |
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lindachristiansen
Junior member
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Posted - 03/02/2014 : 03:04:59
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I found Atle on Ellis Island passenger lists by going through ship name, and date of arrival. I could not find it by using his name. I just looked it up again to find requested info.
He was traveling to Brooklyn to see his brother Christian Christiansen - 57 (or 51) 3rd Place, Brooklyn, New York
Description: 5' 11" fair haired and blue eyed. Under markings "No" had been written in, then crossed out adding tattoo on right arm
Place of birth Arendal, Nearest relative - Anne Christiansen
In been there before the answer was no. However, though I saw the "how long to stay column" on other ship manifests, I could not find one on this one.
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 03/02/2014 : 03:46:29
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| Thanks. Got him - on Ellis Island site Atle is indexed as Atle V. Christianssen. This is why we post transcriptions with the misspellings intact - that way others can find the same record without the hassle we went through to get it. About K and C, yes, they are more or less interchangeable. As an example the city "Christiania" became "Kristiania" and then Oslo. FYI I'm not "onto" anything re. Atle. Haven't searched to find him after this 1914 trip. Maybe you have? |
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lindachristiansen
Junior member
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Posted - 03/02/2014 : 18:47:32
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There is an A. Kristiansen Listed on the ship's crew of the Coranado
Arrived in New York Jan 19, 1921, age 23 which would put the Birthdate abt 1998
not sure it is him though, as height and weight are slightly different - 5'9" 150
also does not list his mother as nearest relative, but he lists his father Christian
As Christian was no longer alive, seems odd. Oh, and Christian lived in Stover, Norway. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 03/02/2014 : 22:20:19
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Originally posted by lindachristiansen
There is an A. Kristiansen Listed on the ship's crew of the Coranado, Arrived in New York Jan 19, 1921, age 23... lists his father Christian... and Christian lived in Stover, Norway.
I agree with you that this is not your Atle. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 03/02/2014 : 23:03:51
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Next to seek: documentation that Dorothea married Christian Thorbjørnsen Mørland on 22 Sep 1923 in Brooklyn, Kings, New York and had at least one child. Christian b 28 JAN 1896 in Mørland, Austre Moland, Aust-Agder, Norway per Ancestry.com family tree.
Burials here could be this same couple:
http://www.green-wood.com/burial_results/index.php
1940 census as indexed on Ancestry.com:
1940
New York, Kings, New York
604 58th Street
Christian Morland 44 born 1896 Norway, naturalized US citizen, carpenter
Dorothy Morland 40 born 1900 in Norway
Normand Morland 10 born 1930 in Norway
**Residence in 1935: same house
A 1913 Ellis Island record for Kristian Morland b 1896 Arendal shows that Kristian traveling in company with others to Sailor's Home in Brooklyn. This was a gathering place for Norwegian seamen - I wouldn't be surprised if the Christiansen brothers knew of and/or had been in this place too.
A family tree on the link below lists this couple:
"Christian Thorbjørnsen Mørland, f. 28.01.1896 i Mørland, Austre Moland, Aust-Agder, yrke (work) snekker. Gift 22.09.1923, med Dorthea Christiansen, f. 19.03.1900 i Arendal, Aust-Agder (datter av Marthin Christiansen og Anne), bosted (fam) i Brooklyn, New York, USA.
Barn: Norman Mørland, f. 13.03.1930 i Brooklyn, New York, USA."
http://home.online.no/~olillebo/MORTEN.htm
f. = født = born
gift med = married with
datter = daughter
og = and
i = in
bosted = resided? or similar meaning
barn = child
I haven't studied that family tree carefully but on quick glance I see it says Christian had at least one sister in Brooklyn. In addition to Norman, the children / grandchildren of Christian's siblings might have photos of this couple.
The following link shows a family tree on GENI that includes Martin and Anne Christiansen and daughter Dorthea. As with the other tree, it includes Dorthea's full and correct date and place of birth:
http://www.geni.com/people/Marthin-Christiansen/5130892228160107007
There's a Norman Morland on Facebook. Photos updated Jan 2013. Shows an older man and mountain scenery. A relative?
US Social Security Index lists a Dorthea Morland died 1988 in Kings County, New York; burial 06 Oct in Green-Wood Cemetery (that cemetery name comes up over and over; Norwegian immigrants in Brooklyn are buried there, it seems).
A Christian Morland was buried at Green-Wood 15 Oct 1963.
You could write to Green-Wood Cemetery for more information on these burials:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=64718
If we follow up this lead re. Dorthea and prove it true, that makes it all the known children of Martin Christiansen and Anne Severine Aslaksen came to America. |
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