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lindachristiansen
Junior member
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 Posted - 19/02/2014 : 22:08:39
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| It is probably me, trying to wrap my brain around it. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 19/02/2014 : 22:13:50
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Well no wonder, it's very confusing. The letter writer didn't clearly state the relationship. Here's the family of Osmund's brother Tormod in 1910.
1910 Norway Census
Strandgate 91 in Haugesund kjøpstad
- all the children born in Haugesund
Malene Førland born 30.07.1860 in Tysvær Ptg, widow, Skibsrederi & Huseier <-------widow of Tormod who was brother to Osmund
Tormod Reinert Førland born 29.11.1884, Kemisk tekniker
Dagmar Josefine Førland born 27.03.1888, Ft. tjenestepike
Malene Førland born 29.03.1891
Johanne Sofie Førland born 30.06.1896
Tormod Andreas Førland born 23.10.1898
If Osmund's brother Tormod is the grandfather (or great-grandfather) of the letter writer, then the letter writer is most likely the son (or grandson) of Tormod Reinert Førland or Tormod Andreas Førland. But Osmund had other brothers who had sons named Tormod, born in Tysvaer (at least one was born on Førland). Need more info to pin it down. |
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lindachristiansen
Junior member
USA
52 Posts |
Posted - 20/02/2014 : 18:30:51
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| Yes, I was just coming to that realization before I had to leave for work. I don't have both Tormods listed in that family. Somehow, I missed that. And also, since Tormod is a family name along with Forland by this time, The Tormod of the letter could be descended from any of the brothers listed in that census. Silly me. My apologies. You have worked so hard to give me this information. And I really do appreciate it. Thanks again. |
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lindachristiansen
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 20/02/2014 : 18:36:45
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| Too bad my cousin Pam and her father never made that trip to Norway. All these questions would be answered. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 20/02/2014 : 18:47:08
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| Well you and Pam now have a trip to look forward to, LOL. |
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hagangst
Starting member
Norway
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Posted - 03/03/2014 : 10:23:25
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Hi. I have extensive information on several Forland families, including Tormod Andersens Forland's ancestors and descendants. I can send this by email if you are interested.
Email me at : hagangst@online.no if so.
Regards
Hans Gangsto
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 04/03/2014 : 01:37:56
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Thanks for posting Hans. You can write directly to lndachristiansen if you wish by clicking on her user name. Hope you connect. --Jane
P.S. Is this the person you mean?
Tormod Johan Andersen Førland born 10.06.1890 on Førland, parents Anders Tormodsen and Ingeborg Serine Gudmundsdtr:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/kb/kf/person/pk00000000844962
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hagangst
Starting member
Norway
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Posted - 04/03/2014 : 15:32:01
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Hi Jane ! Tried the direct contact option, but was denied access as I am new member of the forum.
I have the above Tormod Johan Andersen Førland in my database, as well as parents, siblings, descendants and ancestors, so I have quite a comprehensive story. Only person on which, I have little information, is Osmund Tormodsen Forland b 12 jan 1854, as he emigrated in 1872. I have some information about him, based on what I have found in the US censuses 1900,1910,1930 as well as his marriage record in cook county,ill and his and his wifes death notices from the California Death index. Hopefully this connection can fill those gaps for me :-)
Linda Christiansen has already responded, so I am at present preparing several reports to mail her.
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2014 : 16:37:51
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| Delightful! Thanks for letting us know. |
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lindachristiansen
Junior member
USA
52 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2014 : 18:00:02
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| Just an update: Hans and I are in contact via email. Will share whatever information that comes my way. Thanks |
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lindachristiansen
Junior member
USA
52 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2014 : 22:11:02
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| Update on Oswald George Christiansen: On Ancestry.com I was just doing an updated search. I came across his WWII draft registration card, I stated earlier that I was rejecting the 1930 censes which listed his occupation as a beautician, because I was having trouble reconciling that occupation to his earlier listed occupation which was listed as rigger. Just did not seem likely to me. Well, surprise, the WWII draft registration card said his occupation of owner of a Beauty Parlor on 5920 5th Ave. Brooklyn NY. His sister who lived with him was Dorothy Morland, so I know that this is the correct Oswald George. It does not mention Harriet, the wife listed on the Census. So something probably happened there. But now I am off running again. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2014 : 04:46:17
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Great find Linda!
1918 World War I Draft Registration
George Christensen, age 21
Born 19 May 1896 in Arendal, Norway
Alien; single; no previous military experience
Present Occupation: Ship Rigger
Employer: Atlantic Basic Iron Works (?)
Family dependent on him for support: Mother and sister
Tall, medium build, blond hair, blue eyes
1919
Alabama, Naturalization Records, 1909-1991
U.S. District Court, northern district of Alabama
08 September 1919
Oswald George Christiansen, age 23
Occupation: rigger
Born 19 May 1896 in Arendal, Norway
Residence: 2314 16th Avenue, Ensley, Alabama
Immigrated to the USA from Cardiff, England on the vessel Malmstad
Not married
Arrived in New York on or about 07 April 1913
1925 New York State Census (from Ancestry.com)
Brooklyn, Kings, New York
Oswald Christiansen 29, b Norway, 12 years in US [1913], alien, hair dresser
Harriett Christiansen, 28, b Norway, 4 years in US, alien, beauty parlor
1930 US census
Brooklyn, Kings, New York
5603 8th Avenue
Oswald G Christianson 34, born Norway, to USA 1914, citizenship pending, hair dresser, beauty parlor
Harriet Christianson 32, b Norway, to USA 1920, married 10 yrs, beauty parlor, self
15 June 1931
Petition for Naturalization (from Ancestry.com)
Brooklyn, NY
Harriet Henriette Christiansen
5603 8th Avenue, Brooklyn NY
Housewife
Born 15 May 1897 in Oslo, Norway
Filed declaration of intent to become a US citizen 20 June 1924
Husband's name: Oswald
Married 02 February 1921 in Brooklyn, NY
He was born at Arendal, Norway on 19 May 1896
Entered the USA at New York on 01 October 1920 and resides same address
Harriet entered the USA at New York 11 October 1920 under the name Harriet Richter on the vessel United States
Witnesses: Walter Johnson, custom guard; Gudrun Nilsen, housewife
U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 (from Ancestry.com)
Olvald Georg Christiansen (printed at top of card)
604 58th Street, Bklyn, NY
Age 46, born 19 May 1896 in Arendal, Norway
Name and Address of Person Who Will Always Know Your Address: sister Dorothy Morland, same address
Employer's Name: Beauty Parlor (own business)
Address: 5920 5th Ave, Bklyn, NY
Signature (handwritten at bottom of card): Osvald George Christiansen
02 August 1946
Harriet Henriette Hansen petitioned for change of name from
Harriet Henriette Christiansen
born 5-15-1897
(Source: Subject Index to Correspondence and Case Files of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, 1903-1952)
US Social Security Death Index
Name: Oswald Christiansen
SSN: --
Last Residence: 11219 Brooklyn, Kings, New York, USA
Born: 19 May 1896
Died: 20 Dec 1991
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)
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lindachristiansen
Junior member
USA
52 Posts |
Posted - 09/06/2014 : 17:56:58
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| Thanks Jane, I have all of those now, and it was the WWII Draft Registration, that solidified Harriet for me. Also found a family tree on Ancestry that lists another wife: Bertha Petersen, but can't find any documents to verify. Still no children. |
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lindachristiansen
Junior member
USA
52 Posts |
Posted - 09/06/2014 : 18:00:18
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| Sorry, I've been AOL for a while. My mother passed away. I took some time off to take care of her. Now getting ready for family reunion, but not on the Norwegian side of the family, but it did pull me back in. Glad to see you are still there. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Information on Marthin Christiansen
