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Deloresew
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 Posted - 08/02/2014 : 01:07:31
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Hello: Looking for information on Johan A Stokke and his daughter Agnetta.
I have a little information about my grandmother. She was "born 1856 in Gjovik." She married Peter Brynildson in Vang North Dakota,USA in 1886. She is buried in Govan, Saskatchewan, Canada. Agnetta had 4 children that lived: Hendrik, Josephine, Amelia and Gyda.
Johan is born in 1829 Norway and his wife's name was Josephine(?). HIs wife did not come to America, so possibly died before he immigrated. His children born in Norway were Ingeborg, Agnetta, Andrew, and Edward.
Any help would be appreciated.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 08/02/2014 : 01:40:31
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Here is Agnete in census-1865 for Vardal, Oppland, Norway. Vardal is in Gjøvik.
Census-1865:
Johan Andersen, 37, farmer
Berthe Svendsdatter, 46, wife
Edvard Johansen, 5,son
Stener Johansen , 4, son
Andreas Johansen ,1, son
Agnethe Johansdatter, 10, daughter
Ingeborg Johansdatter, 9, daughter
Widower Johan A. Stokke (71) and Josefine Marie Stokke (19), emigrating to Manitoba in 1901.
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Edited by - jwiborg on 08/02/2014 01:46:40 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2014 : 02:01:32
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Johan and Josephine arrival in Canada.
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Johan A Stokke
Gender: Male
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Date of Arrival: 15 Jun 1901
Vessel: Tunisian
Search Ship Database:
Port of Arrival: Montreal, Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2014 : 02:21:24
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This looks like her emigration on 13 May 1886. Headed for Rio, Wisconsin.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2014 : 02:25:10
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And then probably her arrival in America.
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Agness Johanson
Arrival Date: 28 May 1886
Birth Date: abt 1856
Age: 30
Gender: Female
Place of Origin: Vordal,Norway
Port of Departure: Christiania, Norway and Christiansand, Norway and Copenhagen, Denmark
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Hekla |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 08/02/2014 : 06:03:45
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Find Stokke (two farms or sub-farms Stokke) on this list of farms in Gjøvik. An online family tree (see below) places your family (probably your family) at Stokke Øvre Nordre:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_farms_in_Gj%C3%B8vik
from Family Search, possibly the birth of the father:
Johan Andersen b 10 Feb 1830 in Vardal, Oppland, Norway
Event Place: , VARDAL, OPLAND, NORWAY
Birth Date: 10 Feb 1830
Father: Anders Jorgensen
Mother: Elie Larsdatter
Stenar Johansen born 22 Feb 1863 in Vardal, Oppland, Norway parents Johan Andersen and Berthe Svendsdr
Andreas Johansen born 17 Aug 1865 Vardal, Oppland, Norway parents Johan Andersen and Berthe Svendsdr
from Family Search
Marriage
Anders Jorgensen and Eli Larsd
Event Date: 15 Apr 1829
Event Place: Biri, Oppland, Norway
Still using only Family Search, birth of children who could be siblings to same Johan Andersen:
Birth
Johan Andersen
Birth Date: 21 Feb 1830
Event Place: VARDAL, OPLAND,NORWAY
Parents Anders Jorgensen and Eli Larsd
Birth
Lars Andersen
Birth Date: 13 Oct 1833
Event Place: VARDAL,OPLAND,NORWAY
Parents Anders Jorgensen and Eli Larsd
Birth
Marthe Andersen
Birth Date: 10 Oct 1835
Event Place: VARDAL,OPLAND,NORWAY
Parents Anders Jorgensen and Eli Larsd
Birth
Agnethe Andersen
Birth Date: 14 Mar 1838
Event Place: VARDAL,OPLAND,NORWAY
Parents: Anders Jorgensen and Eli Larsd
Birth
Helene Andersen
Birth Date: 14 Mar 1838
Event Place: VARDAL, OPLAND,NORWAY
Parents: Anders Jorgensen and Eli Larsd
Birth
Antonette Andersen
Birth Date: 16 Apr 1840
Event Place: VARDAL,OPLAND,NORWAY
Parents: Anders Jorgensen and Eli Larsd
Below, this could be the baptism of Anders Jorgensen, who could be grandfather to your Agnetta:
Anders Jorgensen
Baptism Date: 02 Feb 1800
Event Place: VARDAL,OPLAND,NORWAY
Parents Jorgen Andersen and Agnete Jorgensdr
The above needs research in the primary sources, as lyndal40 was doing. But thought it would be fun to show that name Agnete may be traditional in the family for several generations at least. Below, link to a family tree on Family Search that pops up once you start searching on these earlier names.
Anders Jørgensen born 1799 at Stokke Øvre Nordre, Vardal, Oppland, Norway; died 1840
Father Jørgen Andersen b Stokke Øvre Nordre, Vardal, Oppland; d 1812
Mother Agnete Jørgensdatter b 1775 Sveen, Vardal, Oppland and d 1837 Stokke Øvre Nordre, Vardal, Oppland, Norway
LINK:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/S5QR-Y3R
Another tree:
http://www.solhellingadata.no/Rune/Slekt/html/fam/fam10416.html
If the above line checks out, then the family tree creator is a likely cousin of yours. Another likely cousin initiated the discussion on the link below:
http://forum.arkivverket.no/topic/181978-agnete-joergensdtr-vardalbiri-naar-ble-hun-foedt/
Same source (Family Search index of Norwegian records) Eli Larsdatter parents said to be Lars Pedersen b 1758 Gjøsti, Biri, Oppland and Marte Jacobsdatter b 1768 Aalset Søndre, Biri, Oppland.
Again, need to confirm with primary sources (church books). People start to copy and paste stuff like this, and when an error has occurred, that error then gets copied over and over. That said, sometimes online family trees turn out to be right. It could happen. The Family Search tree I linked to cites appropriate sources and appears to be credible.
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Edited by - JaneC on 08/02/2014 14:19:52 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2014 : 14:27:37
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1801 Norway census at Stokke Øvre, Vardal prestegjeld
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01058259001814
Jørgen Andersen 27
Agnethe Jørgensdatter 25
Anders Jørgensen 2
Norwegian friends - please correct me if I'm wrong. When spoken, "Agnethe" would end the same as Agnetta, with "uh." The final "e" has the effect of the final "a." |
Edited by - JaneC on 08/02/2014 14:28:27 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2014 : 18:56:39
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Berte Marie Svendsdatter died 21 May 1887, see #8.
Husband: Worker Johan Andersen.
Born 1827, Biri. Residence: Stokkeeie
This could be Agnete:
Smallpox vaccine
Date: 05 Nov 1858
Name: Agnethe Johansdatter
Born: Skundberg
Age: 1/2 year
Residence: Skundberg
Father: Johan Andersen
Father residence: Skundberg
Vaksinator: Dorthe Gudbrandsen
Skundberg is a farm in Biri, Oppland.
Stokkeeie under Stokke is a farm in Vardal, Oppland. |
Edited by - jwiborg on 08/02/2014 19:13:44 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2014 : 19:22:14
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quote:
Originally posted by JaneC
Norwegian friends - please correct me if I'm wrong. When spoken, "Agnethe" would end the same as Agnetta, with "uh." The final "e" has the effect of the final "a."
You can listen to how Agnete sounds in Norwegian here.
Enter Text: Agnete
Language: Norwegian
Voice: Vilde
Effect: Speed
Level: Slow |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2014 : 20:45:04
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Brother Stener Johansen (20) headed to Rio, Wisconsin on 01 May 1884.
Brothers Andreas (20) and Edvard (24) Johansen headed to Rio, Wisconsin on 30 Apr 1885. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2014 : 21:13:54
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Census-1875 for Vardal, Oppland:
Residence: DAMMEN
Johan Andersen, farmer, 1830
Berthe Maria Svendsdatter, wife, 1827
Stener Johansen, son, 1862
Andreas Johansen, son, 1866
The older children are prob. working as servants on neighboring farms.
Census-1891 for Vardal, Oppland:
Johan Andersen, widower, farmwork, 1829
Ingeborg Johansdatter, daughter, farmwork, born 1858 Snertningdalen Biri
Josefine Karlsdatter, daughter's daughter, born 1882
Josephine Marie
Born: 25 Feb 1882
Christening: 10 Apr 1882, Hunn, Vardal, Oppland
Parents: Karl Kristiansen (1851) from Gjøvik and Ingeborg Johansdatter (1857) from Ødegaardseie
Illegitimate child. Reported by Andreas Johansen Ødegaardseie.
Both Andreas and the other brother Edvard Johansen are listed as godparents. |
Edited by - jwiborg on 08/02/2014 22:44:41 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2014 : 22:33:32
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As indexed on Ancestry.com:
Name: Edward Johansen (with Andreas Johansen)
Arrival Date: 15 May 1885
Birth Date: abt 1861
Age: 24
Gender: Male
Place of Origin: Vardal, Norway
Port of Departure: Copenhagen, Denmark
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Island
A good candidate for Andrew Johansen Stokke and the father Johan, here:
1910
Hope, Cavalier, North Dakota
Andrew J Stokke 43 widowed, born about 1867 Norway, to USA 1886
Maria Stokke 14 born about 1896 North Dakota, father b Norway, mother b Minnesota
Christian Stokke 10 born about 1900 North Dakota
John A Stokke 81 father, widowed, born about 1829 in Norway, to USA 1901
1920
Olga, Cavalier, North Dakota
Andrew Stokks 53 widowed, born about 1867 Norway, to USA 1884
Christ Stokks 19 born about 1901 North Dakota
This could be the son Christ (son of Andreas/Andrew):
World War I Draft Registration
Name: Christian Stokke, age 18
Cavalier, North Dakota
Birth Date: 20 Feb 1900
Race: White
Occupation: farm labor
Employers name: Andrew Stokke in Mullen, Cavalier, North Dakota
Nearest relative: Andrew Stoke
Border Crossings: From U.S. to Canada, 1908-1935
Name: Christ Stokke
Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Arrival Port: Emerson, Manitoba
Date of Arrival: 12 Apr 1921
Birth Location: Vang N Dak
Gender: Male
Citizenship: American
Purpose of entering Canada: to work on farm
Destined to cousin Oscar Breeter, Axxx, Saskatchewan (hard to read)
This could be the same Christian, memorialized on International Find-a-Grave
Name: Christian Stokke
Death Date: 2 Mar 1967
Burial Place: Woodlawn Cemetery, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
Buried beside Mary Louise
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Stokke&GSiman=1&GScid=639451&GRid=98500181&
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Edited by - JaneC on 08/02/2014 22:50:09 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2014 : 22:48:12
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The above Christian is a good candidate for Andrew's son because according to Find-a-Grave, Agnette Stokke Brynildson buried in the area, at Saint Olaf Cemetery in Govan, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. Canada.
Agnette Stokke Brynildson
Birth: Jan. 1, 1856
Death: Aug., 1925
Below, this is likely Agnetta's brother Edvard Johansen Stokke:
1910
Hope, Cavalier, North Dakota
Eduard J Stokke 49 born about 1861 Norway, to USA 1886
Hannah J Stokke 39 b abt 1871 Norway, to USA 1893
Judith Stokke 11 - all the children born in North Dakota
Barbra Stokke 9
Amie Stokke 7
Hellena Stokke 6
Gladis Stokke 3
Johan Johnson 31 b abt 1879 servant
1920
West Hope, Cavalier, North Dakota
Edward Stokke 59 b abt 1861 Norway, to USA 1885
Molle Stokke 42
Judith Stokke 21
Amy Stokke 17
Helen Stokke 14
Gladys Stokke 13
Morris Stokke 8
Myrtle Stokke 6
Michael Donick 35 hired man
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Edited by - JaneC on 08/02/2014 23:00:14 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2014 : 23:09:41
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quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg
Josefine Karlsdatter, daughter's daughter, born 1882
Josephine Marie
Born: 25 Feb 1882
Christening: 10 Apr 1882, Hunn, Vardal, Oppland
Parents: Karl Kristiansen (1851) from Gjøvik and Ingeborg Johansdatter (1857) from Ødegaardseie
Illegitimate child. Reported by Andreas Johansen Ødegaardseie.
Both Andreas and the other brother Edvard Johansen are listed as godparents.
About Josephine Marie Carlsen Stokke, from Find-a-Grave:
Name: Josephine Stokke Dahlvang
Birth Date: 25 Feb 1882
Age at Death: 72
Death Date: 19 May 1954
Burial Place: Vang Cemetery, Vang, Cavalier County, North Dakota, USA
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=DA&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSst=30&GScntry=4&GSsr=961&GRid=39967111&
The Find-a-Grave creator lists her husband as
Carl Dahlvang (1875 - 1948)
and children:
Clara Georgina Dahlvang (1905 - 1926)
Emma M Dahlvang Rollness (1907 - 1987) m Hans Andreas Rollness
Irene Dahlvang Rollness (1910 - 1999) m Odin M Rollness
Doris Elvina Dahlvang (1915 - 2012) m Stewart McDonald
Alice Victoria Dahlvang (1918 - 1920)
(no sources) (Find-a-Grave memorials are not intended to provide complete lists of descendants)
1910 US Census
West Hope, Cavalier, North Dakota
Carl Dahlvang 39 [34] born in Minnesota
Josephine M Dahlvang 28 born abt 1882 Norway, to USA 1902
Clara J Dahlvang 4
Emma M Dahlvang 3
Ella I Dahlvang 1 year 1 month
Ingeborg Stokke 51 widowed, mother-in-law <-------Agnetta sister
1920
Hope, Cavalier, North Dakota
Carl Dahlvang 44 b 1876 Minnesota
Josephine Dahlvang 37 b 1883 Norway, to USA 1902
Clara Dahlvang 14
Emma Dahlvang 12
Ella Dahlvang 10
Irine Dahlvang 9
Belma Dahlvang 7
Viola Dahlvang 6
Doris Dahlvang 4
Alice Dahlvang 1
Obituary
Doris McDonald, 96, passed away peacefully on Monday, September 3, 2012 at the Pembilier Nursing Center in Walhalla, ND. Doris Elvina (Dahlvang) McDonald was born October 27, 1915 to Carl and Josephine (Carlson-Stokke) Dahlvang in Vang, ND. ...." More on the link.
http://www.brooksfuneralhome.net/DorisMcDonald.htm
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Edited by - JaneC on 09/02/2014 02:04:03 |
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Deloresew
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 09/02/2014 : 19:21:23
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| Wow! THANKS to you all. I have Johan and Ingeborg in North Dakota in 1881. Agnetta in 1882. |
dew |
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Looking for Johan Stokke - Agnetta Stokke
