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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 15/02/2014 : 00:01:24
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From the WWI draft record, nearest relative is listed as Annie Johnson. Probably this person from the Family Tree.
Annie Enindeed
Birth abt 1884 in Kansas
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 15/02/2014 : 00:21:51
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Back to Jackie and JaneC find in the 1920 US Census. Of John Johannsen. Here is their marriage
Louisiana, Marriages, 1718-1925
Name: Jurgen Johanssen
Spouse: Emma Weigel
Marriage Date: 24 Aug 1895
Marriage Pace: Orleans
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 15/02/2014 : 00:30:26
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And their child
New Orleans, Louisiana Birth Records Index, 1790-1899
Name: John Johannsen
Birth Date: 30 Nov 1895
Birth Place: New Orleans, Louisiana
Gender: Male
Race: White
Father's Name: Jurgen Johannsen
Mother's name: Emma Wiegel |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 15/02/2014 : 00:55:05
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Originally posted by lyndal40
And their child
New Orleans, Louisiana Birth Records Index, 1790-1899
Name: John Johannsen
Birth Date: 30 Nov 1895
Birth Place: New Orleans, Louisiana
Gender: Male
Race: White
Father's Name: Jurgen Johannsen
Mother's name: Emma Wiegel
This family is well represented in the newspaper archive at genealogybank.com. includin an obit for Emma, the son John Johannsen and other stuff. The son John was at one time employed by the Times-Picayune newspaper. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 15/02/2014 : 01:33:54
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There are also two trees on the family, however not much information on the Johannsen side but some information on the Weigel side. Here is what is posted.
Emma E Weigel
Birth 1 Aug 1876 in New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana, USA
Death 29 Oct 1974 in New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana, USA
Father
Charles Weigel
Birth 7 May 1844 in Free City of Frankfurt, Hesse, Germany
Death 24 Dec 1922
Mother
Anna Engel
Birth 1847 in Germany
Death Feb 12, 1889 in New Orleans Orleans Louisiana
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 15/02/2014 : 04:59:32
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Here are the 1910, 1920, 1930, and 1940 Census Records
Just to put this on the board...
1940
New Orleans Ward 8
John Johannsen 71
Emma Johannsen 63
1930
New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana
Head John Johannsen 61 Louisiana father b Norway mother b Germany
Wife Emma Johannsen 53 Pennsylvania, father b Germany mother b France
Son Charles Johannsen 26 Louisiana
Daughter Anna Johannsen 20 Louisiana
1920 US census
New Orleans Ward 8, Orleans, Louisiana
John Johannsen 51 born about 1869 in Louisiana, father born Norway, mother born Germany
Wife Emma E Johannsen 43 born about 1877 Pennsylvania, father born Germany, mother born Alsace Lorraine
Son John Johannsen Jr. 24 Louisiana
Daughter Carrie A Johannsen 22 Louisiana
Daughter Laura A Johannsen 20 Louisiana
Son Earnest J Johannsen 18 Louisiana
Son Charles P Johannsen 16 Louisiana
Son Jules G Johannsen 13 Louisiana
Daughter Anna L Johannsen 9 Louisiana
1910
New Orleans Ward 8, Orleans, Louisiana
John Johnson 41 Louisiana, both parents born Louisiana
Wife Emma Johnson 32 Pennsylvania born parents born Germany
Son John Johnson Jr. 14 Louisiana
Daughter Carrie Johnson 12 Louisiana
Daughter Laura Johnson 10 Louisiana
Son Ernest Johnson 8 Louisiana
Son Charles Johnson 6 Louisiana
Son Julius Johnson 3 Louisiana
Daughter Anna Johnson 0 Louisiana
This might be Emma dying 1974 age 98 in Orleans
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J1JD-BZD
Anybody know does John Johannsen's (b ca 1869) death record name his father? |
Edited by - JaneC on 22/02/2014 02:11:20 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 15/02/2014 : 05:02:20
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| John Johannsen the father, husband of Emma, died on or about 8 Mar 1959. I believe the original poster says that she got his father's name from his d.c. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 15/02/2014 : 05:32:00
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May be worth tracking this family to locate Mr. Johannssen the elder prior to his death 1882. Bethany maybe you have researched this?
1900
New Orleans Ward 3, Orleans, Louisiana
Charles Weigel 57 Germany
Daughter Lillian Weigel 21 Louisiana
Daughter Augusta Weigel 19 Louisiana
Son Julius Weigel 13 Louisiana
Mother Annie Leherzberg 86 Germany
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 15/02/2014 : 05:46:20
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There was an article in the Times-Picayune about the 50th (I think) anniversary of a fraternal organization in which John Johannsen was mentioned as one of the earliest and still living members from 1889. I'll collect the documentary evidence. That's the earliest reference to the name that I've seen in the papers. on 7 Jan 1941, pg 7, col 7 titled
"Druid Veterans Given Places of Honor at Dinner; More than 50 years service four gain recognition" John Johannsen is one of those so honored.
FYI the organization is the United Ancient Order of Druids.
The connection between Bucinich and Johannsen... on 15 Sept 1944 in the Times-Picayune in article titled "Sewerage Board Will Pension 62"
M. Bucinich 75, 19 1/2 years $47...(2nd husband of Rosa)
J. Johannsen 75, 23 years $46.30.
Looks like they may have known each other through their employment?
For the poster, when John Johannsen the son died at Los Angeles, Californa in 1927 one of the announcements of the service in the paper carried this "and Grace, Idaho papers please copy." Who was in Grace Idaho? |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 15/02/2014 : 15:34:34
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Originally posted by BethanyJohannsen
I am looking to find more information about my great great grandfather who emigrated from Norway. His death certificate from Louisiana says his name was John Johannsen, but I do not know that he was named John at birth in Norway. He was born about 1830 Norway and died in Louisiana on Aug. 23, 1882.
He could well be John in Norway, in 1865 there were ca 16. 000 named John in Norway.
Johannsen is more rarely compared with Johansen, ca 100 in 1865 used Johannsen as lastname.
More common was Johan/Johannes/Johanes (ca 60. 000 in 1865) which often was changed to John in America.
Interesting that he kept the -sen ending, the majority changed to -son whis was used in Norway from the middleage and earlier (-sson)
If John em. as an adult without his parents his fathers 1. name was most likely Johann (Johan/Johanes/Johannes)
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 15/02/2014 : 23:59:29
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Just a thought.
Your g.grandfather was John/Jurgen Johannsen.
Did he use both John Johannsen and Jurgen Johannsen or John Jurgen Johannsen?
The reason I ask is that John could also be the name of his Norwegian grandfather and Jurgen his German grandfather.
Jurgen in German is spelled with two `` dots above the u (the German letter for Y)
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 16/02/2014 : 05:11:37
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With a creeping sense of frustration I'm beginning to think John Johannsen was perhaps born elsewhere than Louisiana. So here is this off-the-wall migrant leaving through Oslo headed to New Orleans in 1894, unmarried machinist born about 1870 living in Olso prior to departure:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=4&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=106895&merk=106895#ovre
106895 Oslo 1846 1894 Juni 16 Johan M. Johansen m u Maskinist 24 Kr.a. Mĝllegd.34 New Orleans 1849 Norge 175 - Virginia V.kr.s
Actually there are a number of folks who left Norway with New Orleans as their destination. The largest number of these, several hundreds left from Bergen, 60 from Oslo in the above database. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 16/02/2014 : 17:31:16
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Jackie, here is his arrival into New York, listed as an engineer going to New Orleans. No other useful info listed.
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Johan Johansen
Arrival Date: 30 Jun 1894
Birth Date: abt 1870
Age: 24
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Port of Departure: Christiansand, Norway
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Virginia |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 16/02/2014 : 19:38:05
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 16/02/2014 : 23:17:58
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From HeritageQuest the heads of household in every parish born in Norway in the 1870 census (red for those in Orleans)  = those with apparent spouse (apparent since no relationship is noted in 1870) born in Germany, = those with male child in house age 3 and under:
Surname Given Name Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year
AGNUE H 40 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 8-WD NEW ORLEANS 1870
ANDERRSON JOS 54 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 9-WD NEW ORLEANS 1870
ANDERSON H 52 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 9-WD NEW ORLEANS 1870
BAILEY GEORGE 45 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 9-WD NEW ORLEANS 1870
BREWSTAN CHS 27 M W NORW LA PLAQUEMINES NEW ORLEANS P O 1870
CHRISTIAN JAMES 45 M W NORW LA PLAQUEMINES NEW ORLEANS P O 1870
ENGE HERMAN 25 M W NORW LA TENSAS ST JOSEPH P O 1870
FAULSLOX P 50 M W NORW LA CATAHOULA HARRISONBURG P O 1870
FERISH GEO 50 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 10-WD NEW ORLEANS 1870
Volney FUGELAAR CASPER 43 M W NORW LA CATAHOULA TRINITY P O 1870
Edward GARNER HENRY 38 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 5-DIST NEW ORLEANS 1870
William GERKIN E G 35 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 1-WD NEW ORLEANS 1870
GILL S G 25 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 1-WD NEW ORLEANS 1870
GRAGORY J J 33 M W NORW LA CADDO SHREVEPORT 1870
HAMER ELIAS 22 M W NORW LA EAST BATON ROUGE BATON ROUGE P O 1870
HANSON A 45 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 8-WD NEW ORLEANS 1870
HANSON ALBERT 41 M W NORW LA ST MARY WARD THREE 1870
HANSON WM 24 M W NORW LA MADISON VICKSBURG MS P O 1870
HENSHON J J 33 M W NORW LA PLAQUEMINES NEW ORLEANS P O 1870
HILL EDWARD 28 M W NORW LA OUACHITA MONROE P O 1870
2 Edward & Udolphus HIRSCH CARRISON 30 M W NORW LA OUACHITA TRENTON P O 1870
IRBECK S 43 M W NORW LA CADDO SHREVEPORT 1870
JINYACK THOMAS 34 M W NORW LA ST JAMES CANTRELLE P O 1870
JOHNSON EDWARD 22 M W NORW LA MADISON VICKSBURG MS P O 1870
JOHNSON HENRY 30 M W NORW LA PLAQUEMINES NEW ORLEANS P O 1870
JOHNSTON EMANUEL 30 M M NORW LA ORLEANS 7-WD NEW ORLEANS 1870
LAWSON CHARLES 57 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 5-WD NEW ORLEANS 1870
LAWSON LAWRENCE 57 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 5-DIST NEW ORLEANS 1870
John LAWSON SAML 43 M W NORW LA TANGIPAHOA AMITE P O 1870
LENONAN J G 29 M W NORW LA EAST BATON ROUGE PORT HUDSON P O 1870
LEWISON WILLIAM 40 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 2-WD NEW ORLEANS 1870
LOWSE GEO T 26 M W NORW LA CADDO SHREVEPORT 1870
MARQUENUS N 35 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 6-DIST NEW ORLEANS 1870
MARTIN CHARLES 48 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 5-WD PAR PRISON 1870
Henry age 1 MELCOURT HALFORD 50 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 11-WD NEW ORLEANS 1870
MERESON ORMOND 29 M W NORW LA EAST BATON ROUGE BATON ROUGE P O 1870
MIDELL CHRIST 25 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 5-WD NEW ORLEANS 1870
NELSON JOHN 44 M W NORW LA PLAQUEMINES NEW ORLEANS P O 1870
NELSON MARTIN 50 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 9-WD NEW ORLEANS 1870
NELSON THOMAS F 54 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 5-DIST NEW ORLEANS 1870
OFFENDALE HY 28 M W NORW LA PLAQUEMINES NEW ORLEANS P O 1870
OVERGARD HENRY 26 M W NORW LA LAFAYETTE VERMILIONVILLE P O 1870
PAULSEN B 52 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 8-WD NEW ORLEANS 1870
PETERSEN THOS 33 M W NORW LA PLAQUEMINES NEW ORLEANS P O 1870
PETERSON PETER B 40 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 7-WD NEW ORLEANS 1870
RANDELS GEORGE 30 M W NORW LA ST MARY 5-WD BRASHEARS 1870
REISOR P G 46 M W NORW LA CADDO SHREVEPORT 1870
SANDERSON KENNEDY 35 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 7-WD NEW ORLEANS 1870
SILVESTREN MOSES 25 M W NORW LA PLAQUEMINES NEW ORLEANS P O 1870
Henry 3 SMITH ANDREN 23 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 6-DIST NEW ORLEANS 1870
SMITH PETER 34 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 9-WD NEW ORLEANS 1870
SQUIRES HENRY 43 M W NORW LA CATAHOULA CENTERVILLE P O 1870
STONE CHARLES 26 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 9-WD NEW ORLEANS 1870
THOMPSON EDW 45 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 9-WD NEW ORLEANS 1870
THOMPSON GEO 51 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 9-WD NEW ORLEANS 1870
THOMPSON WM 48 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 9-WD NEW ORLEANS 1870
TRUMPY JAMES 53 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 9-WD NEW ORLEANS 1870
URGENTS FREDRICK 32 M W NORW LA RICHLAND WARD THREE 1870
WANG FRED 38 M W NORW LA ORLEANS 2-WD NEW ORLEANS 1870
WANG SUSANNAH 65 F W NORW LA ORLEANS 2-WD NEW ORLEANS 1870
WILLIAMS JULIUS 63 M W NORW LA PLAQUEMINES NEW ORLEANS P O 1870
Here is the birth listing for Henry Melcourt:
Melkild Henrich Halvor Louise Schmerjahl M - 01/17/1869 54 179
Unfortunately also in the deaths the father and the son:
Melkild Halvor Ellingson 55 yrs - W 08/10/1889 95 745
Melkild Henry J. O. 20 yrs - W 07/19/1889 95 579 |
Edited by - jkmarler on 20/02/2014 23:10:02 |
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Johannsen - male born 1830 Norway died 1882 Louisi
