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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 12/05/2014 : 01:40:51
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I suppose that Thormod or Tormod became John in America?
870 United States Federal Census Name: John Thompson Age in 1870: 8 Birth Year: abt 1862 Birthplace: Norway Home in 1870: Newburg, Fillmore, Minnesota Race: White Gender: Male Post Office: Newburg Value of real estate: Household Members: Name Age John Thompson 8 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2014 : 01:58:58
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quote: Originally posted by jwiborg
quote: Originally posted by jkmarler
Considering that Sophie Anderson, sister of Anna sister-in-law of Walter, was living with the family in 1910; and that at least one of the children were raised or lived in Minnesota after 1920; maybe Sophie was there to help Anne whose health may have already been compromised and that Anne and children returned to Minnesota?
There are 3 Ann/ Anna/ Anne Thompson deaths in Fillmore county between 1910 and 1920. Here is the first in 1914, the other two died in the first half of 1920. (Since the 1920 census was taken in January that year, and Walter is listed as a widower in the 1920 census, the 1914 death is most ripe for exploration):
THOMPSON, ANNA Date of Birth: na Place of Birth: na Mother Maiden Name: na certid# 1914-MN-004186 Date of Death: 01 Dec 1914 County of Death: FILLMORE
Does not seem likely: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FDS9-6BP
She is, as they say, a bit long in the tooth and so is off the table. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2014 : 02:08:27
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quote: Originally posted by jwiborg
You said that Esther married Earl Lamb. Interestingly, I found one Esther born 17 JAN 1908, who died just 4 years ago in Denver. I wonder if Esther could be Esther I Wiig, born on January 17, 1908, died on January 11, 2010 in Denver, CO.
The Rime family were, or at least the father was, Halling, I believe, so not very likely to be the correct person, unless she was adopted?
Wiig, Esther I.: Newspaper Obituary and Death Notice Star Tribune: Newspaper of the Twin Cities (Minneapolis, MN) - Sunday, April 11, 2010 Deceased Name: Wiig, Esther I. Wiig, Esther I., (Rime) age 101, of Denver, CO, formerly of Minnetonka, MN. Died Jan. 11, 2010 in Colorado Springs, CO. Born Jan. 17, 1908 in Sunburg, MN. Preceded in death by husband, Gunnar. Survived by sons, Paul, John and James; 8 grandchildren; 7 great-grandchildren; many nieces, nephews and dear friends. Esther was active in Lutheran church organizations and participated in many volunteer activities. She was a first generation American whose Norwegian immigrant father was a veteran of the Union Army during the Civil War. Memorial service to be held at 11 AM Sat., April 17 at Oak Knoll Lutheran Church, 600 Hopkins Crossroad. Reception 1 hour before service. Memorials preferred to the church, or Ebenezer Foundation. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2014 : 02:15:07
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Here is an Esther Viola Thompson about the right age in a household in the 1920 listed as niece:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MWY4-1FB
The Minnesota Birth Index at familysearch also has 4 children born to Earl Kenneth Lamb and Esther Viola Thompson.
Here's their marriage from MOMS: WATONWAN 06/20/1939 LAMB, EARL KENNETH THOMPSON, ESTHER VIOLA
Here is part of her obit so this Esther is off the table as well:
"Esther Viola Lamb, 96, after a long illness, died Thursday, September 1, 2011 at Bethany Community in Alexandria, her home for the past 10 years.
Esther was born December 31, 1914 in St. James to Hattie (Gossweiler) and Charles Thompson. She graduated from St. James High School, where she lettered as a forward on the girls’ basketball team and participated in theatrical productions, as salutatorian of her class.
She was united in marriage to Earl Kenneth Lamb of St. James on June 20, 1939 at First English Lutheran Church. Their marriage was followed by the births of their first three daughters." |
Edited by - jkmarler on 12/05/2014 02:49:07 |
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dianericky
Starting member
USA
25 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2014 : 03:31:03
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Yes, the Anna in Fillmore is not the Anna Anderson living in Denver, CO 1910--will keep checking on her whereabouts...and where the children went prior to 1920 thank you for the contributions and the Alice Thompson born 1905, was written as Ana--will keep checking this as well- blessings to all! Diane |
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dianericky
Starting member
USA
25 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2014 : 03:51:05
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Found Alice Thompson (15) with the Kjono family along with Esther, who is stated as 9, when she was born 1908 ? for the 1920 census in Oscar, Otter Tail Minnesota, which I had seen before--
no mention of Clifford (1903) who would have been 17---- so that means Anna Anderson Thompson passed before the 1920 census possibly in Minn
Yes, The Esther Lamb is probably not Esther Viola Thompson due to birth location-- |
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dianericky
Starting member
USA
25 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2014 : 04:13:27
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I don't think that the Kjono family is related to Alice or Esther Thompson--so that may not be the correct Alice for the 1920 census listing- |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2014 : 04:22:58
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quote: Originally posted by dianericky
Found Alice Thompson (15) with the Kjono family along with Esther, who is stated as 9, when she was born 1908 ? for the 1920 census in Oscar, Otter Tail Minnesota, which I had seen before--
Yes, The Esther Lamb is probably not Esther Viola Thompson due to birth location-- Not mentioning, of course, a different year of birth 1914 vs 1908
Otter Tail county is interesting since Lars Paulson Vegge family (using Paulson) came to Otter Tail by 1875. Lars Paulson's wife was Valborg Gabrielsdatter and they came from Suldal and they left in 1862 and were in Fillmore county in 1865. It's worth an exploration.
Name: Carl M Kjono Titles and Terms: Event Type: Census Event Year: 1920 Event Place: Oscar, Otter Tail, Minnesota, United States District: 157 Gender: Male Age: 54 Marital Status: Married Race: White Race (Original): White Can Read: Yes Can Write: Yes Relationship to Head of Household: Head Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head Own or Rent: Own Birth Year (Estimated): 1866 Birthplace: Norway Immigration Year: 1887 Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Birthplace: Norway Sheet Number and Letter: 1A Household ID: 3 Line Number: 16 Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) Affiliate Publication Number: T625 GS Film number: 1820849 Digital Folder Number: 004312197 Image Number: 00298 Household Gender Age Birthplace Head Carl M Kjono M 54 Norway Wife Nicoline N Kjono F 60 Norway Daughter Mollie Kjono F 19 Minnesota Son Ottin Kjono M 15 Minnesota Granddaughter Alice Thompson F 15 Minnesota Grandson Clarence Thompson M 13 Minnesota Grandson Louis Thompson M 12 Minnesota Granddaughter Esther Thompson F 9 Minnesota
"United States Census, 1920," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MWB2-B5N : accessed 12 May 2014), Carl M Kjono, Oscar, Otter Tail, Minnesota, United States; citing sheet 1A, family 3, NARA microfilm publication T625, FHL microfilm 1820849.
The biggest problem is that all four Thompson children are grandchildren of the head of household and Clarence's and Louis' birth dates and names don't match the boys in Walter G. Thompson's family. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 12/05/2014 04:39:37 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2014 : 04:28:29
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This may be the aunt Sophia Anderson (my bad) in the 1930 and 1940 census:
Name: Sophia Anderson Titles and Terms: Event Type: Census Event Year: 1930 Event Place: Pueblo, Pueblo, Colorado, United States District: 0006 Gender: Female Age: 59 Marital Status: Single Race: White Race (Original): White Relationship to Head of Household: Inmate Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Inmate Birth Year (Estimated): 1871 Birthplace: Minnesota Immigration Year: Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Birthplace: Norway Sheet Number and Letter: 20A Household ID: Line Number: 19 Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) Affiliate Publication Number: T626 Affiliate Film Number: 249 GS Film number: 2339984
Digital Folder Number: 004532394
Image Number: 00150 "United States Census, 1930," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X74V-5SS : accessed 12 May 2014), Sophia Anderson, Pueblo, Pueblo, Colorado, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 0006, sheet 20A, family , NARA microfilm publication T626, roll 249.
Name: Sophia Anderson Titles and Terms: Event Type: Census Event Date: 1940 Event Place: Pueblo, Election Precinct 5, Pueblo, Colorado, United States Gender: Female Age: 69 Marital Status: Single Race (Original): White Race: White Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Inmate Relationship to Head of Household: Inmate Birthplace: Minnesota Birth Year (Estimated): 1871 Last Place of Residence: Same House District: 51-6 Family Number: Sheet Number and Letter: 33A Line Number: 37 Affiliate Publication Number: T627 Affiliate Film Number: 475 Digital Folder Number: 005449325
Image Number: 00234 "United States Census, 1940," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VRDW-6D7 : accessed 12 May 2014), Sophia Anderson, Pueblo, Election Precinct 5, Pueblo, Colorado, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 51-6, sheet 33A, family , NARA digital publication of T627, roll 475. Facility is the Colorado State Hospital
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Edited by - jkmarler on 12/05/2014 04:41:16 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2014 : 09:29:03
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Going back to the family of Enoch Andersen, who most likely is the father to Anna Anderson. Widowed mother Sarah Anderson (60) looks to be Ingeborg/Isabell's mother, since Enok's mother Anne Marta Jensdr is born about 1806.
Here are 3 children born to Enoch Andersen and Ingeborg ("Isabell") Johnsdr of Newburg, Elstad, Fillmore Co., Minn. 16 May 1873 Johan Adolf 25 Jul 1875 Edvard 26 Jun 1877 Bernhard In addition to these 3 sons, they have these children: Andrew Anderson, b. 1867, Minnesota Anna Anderson, b. 1869, Minnesota Sophia Anderson, b. 1871, Minnesota
Some info about the family and the youngest son Bernard E Anderson |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2014 : 14:30:38
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This is the data I linked to on page one for Enoch Anderson. His mother is Siri which could be Anglicized to Sara. The birth date matched the date in his death record. toI haven't gone look for the actual baptism. Done now. Most censuses records say that he migrated in 1865. If so, would he even have been in the 1865 census since it's actual taking date is 1 Jan 1866?:
Name: Enoch Andersen Gender: Male Event Date: 04 Apr 1843 Event Place: Frosta, Nord-Trøndelag, Norway Birth Date: 10 Mar 1843 Father's Name: Anders Erichsen Mother's Name: Siri Larsdatter ct (Batch) Number: C42664-3 System Origin: Norway-EASy GS Film number: 307048 Reference ID: Vol 6
Enoch Andersen #29: Source information: Nord-Trøndelag county, Frosta, Parish register (official) nr. 713A06 (1838-1851), Birth and baptism records 1843, page 22. Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2467&idx_id=2467&uid=ny&idx_side=-25
This is the death record: Name: Enok Anderson Gender: Male Death Date: 30 May 1922 Death Place: Newburg Tp., Fillmore, Minn. Age: 79 Birth Date: 10 Mar 1843 Birthplace: Norway Occupation: Farmer Race: White Marital Status: Widowed Father's Name: E. Anderson Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Name: Mother's Birthplace: Nor... Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B53036-2 System Origin: Minnesota-EASy GS Film number: 1316810 Reference ID: P301CN119
"Minnesota, Deaths and Burials, 1835-1990," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FDZF-PBD : accessed 12 May 2014), Enok Anderson, 30 May 1922; citing Newburg Tp., Fillmore, Minn., reference P301CN119; FHL microfilm 1316810.
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Edited by - jkmarler on 12/05/2014 16:36:01 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2014 : 17:03:53
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Ok. Strange. The 1865-census says that Enok is her son. Her, meaning the woman on line above; Anne Marta Jensdr (50). Maybe wrong census?
Enok Andersen Father-Biological: Anders Eriksen Raaen, born 06 Nov 1811, dead ab. 1862 Mother-Biological: Sigrid Larsdatter Solemsgjerdet, born ab 1817 Enok Andersen emigrated to America. Han was born 10 Mar 1843 in Frosta, Nord-Trøndelag. |
Edited by - jwiborg on 12/05/2014 17:37:21 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2014 : 18:53:23
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Enok Anderson came to Minnesota in 1868, according to A Comprehensive Index to A.T. Andreas' Illustrated Historical Atlas of Minnesota, 1874 by Mary Bakeman and A. T. Andreas (Jun 1992). |
Edited by - jwiborg on 12/05/2014 18:56:19 |
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
326 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2014 : 19:46:59
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To you all:
Excellent research. |
DL. ;o) Malta. G.C. |
Edited by - jungfigh on 12/05/2014 19:47:37 |
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