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jkmarler
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 Posted - 29/06/2014 : 20:55:30
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Late to this conversation, sorry if repeating something already discussed but yeah there is another Anne Stenersdatter who could possibly be the mother of children born in 1844 and 1847, #47:
Source information: Telemark county, Seljord, Parish register (official) nr. I 11 (1831-1849), Confirmation records 1844, page 211.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1401&idx_id=1401&uid=ny&idx_side=-214
Her parents moved to Seljord about 1828.5.
#2, #3 at bottom of left hand page:
Source information: Telemark county, Seljord in Seljord, Parish register (official) nr. I 10 (1815-1831), Imigration records 1822-1828, page 313.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7978&idx_id=7978&uid=ny&idx_side=-166
She had at least one sibling. #39 Ingeborg Stenersdatter:
Source information: Telemark county, Seljord, Parish register (official) nr. I 11 (1831-1849), Confirmation records 1840, page 196.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1401&idx_id=1401&uid=ny&idx_side=-199
#46 female worker, Ingeborg Stenersdatter moves to Kvitseid in 1841:
Source information: Telemark county, Kviteseid, Parish register (official) nr. I 6 (1836-1858), Migration records 1842, page 590.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1381&idx_id=1381&uid=ny&idx_side=-598
A possible marriage for Ingeborg Stenersdatter Hægtvedt in Kvitseid:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NWMJ-V1Y
#34
Source information: Telemark county, Kviteseid, Parish register (official) nr. I 6 (1836-1858), Marriage records 1844, page 395.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1381&idx_id=1381&uid=ny&idx_side=-406
Ingeborg's second child #121 Stener Iverson, there is an Anne Løsedal in the faddernes but not clear if it's Anne, Ingeborg's sister:
Source information: Telemark county, Kviteseid, Parish register (official) nr. I 6 (1836-1858), Birth and baptism records 1845, page 113.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1381&idx_id=1381&uid=ny&idx_side=-117
Ingeborg Steenersdatter's death #58:
Source information: Telemark county, Kviteseid, Parish register (official) nr. I 6 (1836-1858), Death and burial records 1847, page 491.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1381&idx_id=1381&uid=ny&idx_side=-502
A brother Halvor Stenerson b. 1833:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N4RS-VRW
Halvor's actual baptism #28. The "address" of the family is "Hægtvedt. Hvitesde. Seljord" Could a sheriff cover a larger area than just one parish?
Source information: Telemark county, Seljord, Parish register (official) nr. I 11 (1831-1849), Birth and baptism records 1833, page 10.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1401&idx_id=1401&uid=ny&idx_side=-12
An interesting juxtaposition of the family of Stener Halvorson with the 2nd family of Stener Evenson:
This Halvor's vaccination record #36, Gudmund Stenerson's #37
Source information: Telemark county, Seljord, Parish register (official) nr. I 11 (1831-1849), Vaccination records 1835, page 367.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1401&idx_id=1401&uid=ny&idx_side=-372
Hegtvedt is apparently in the Kviteseid jurisdiction, here is link to page. Stener Halversen is mentioned several times. In far left column on left page is apparently a legatees listing and settlements of Halver Skalv (?):
Source information: Protocol number: I 3, Place: Vest-Telemark sorenskriveri, Location: SAKO
Remarks: - s. 1417. Partik. tingl. og kontin. s. 1428 - 2412. Register på navn. Lårdal. Matr.nr. 79 ? 86.
Permanent imagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-tl20070204740701.jpg
quote:Originally posted by Kåarto
Veum is a farm in Moland, the administrative center in Fyresdal
They came from Moland to Seljord in 1825.
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Hmm here is a Dagni Svennungsd b Moland, widowed, in the 1865 census. Age is a bit long however, so just a possible:
http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=12&filnamn=f60829&gardpostnr=186&personpostnr=1023&merk=1023#ovre
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Probably her in the Ancestry record
Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 about Dagne Svennungsdatter
Name: Dagne Svennungsdatter
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 29 nov 1806
Baptism Date: 14 des 1806 (14 Dec 1806)
Baptism Place: Fyresdal, Telemark, Norway
Father: Svennung Iversen
Mother: Joron Svendsdr
FHL Film Number: 126927
Reference ID: 2:M034DK
Also on right page middle in Digitalarkivet
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8009&idx_id=8009&uid=ny&idx_side=-46
The widow Dagni Svennungsd moves into Kviteside in 1841, #29; but there are some details that I can't quite read, if someone else can assist:
Source information: Telemark county, Kviteseid, Parish register (official) nr. I 6 (1836-1858), Migration records 1841, page 589.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1381&idx_id=1381&uid=ny&idx_side=-597
Widow Dagni Svennungsd leaves Seljord #1, future husband Stener Evenson is #11, daughter Ingeborg Steenersd is #12 on the utflyttedes (right hand) page:
Source information: Telemark county, Seljord, Parish register (official) nr. I 11 (1831-1849), Migration records 1841, page 345.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1401&idx_id=1401&uid=ny&idx_side=-350
Thanks for the headsup on Dagne and Svennung, I hadn't put them together at all. Here is their marriage #20:
Source information: Telemark county, Kviteseid, Parish register (official) nr. I 6 (1836-1858), Marriage records 1841, page 386.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1381&idx_id=1381&uid=ny&idx_side=-397
The death record also relates to her, as she is called a farmer's widow moved here from Kvitseid (Hviteseid):
Source information: Telemark county, Lårdal, Parish register (official) nr. I 6 (1861-1886), Death and burial records 1876, page 313.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1385&idx_id=1385&uid=ny&idx_side=-274
It would be interesting to know the rest of the story here for family dynamic, Stener Halvorson lensmann in Seljord #63 and his son Halvor #64:
Source information: Telemark county, Kviteseid, Parish register (official) nr. I 6 (1836-1858), Death and burial records 1839, page 462.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1381&idx_id=1381&uid=ny&idx_side=-473
Hegtvedt is mentioned as in Brberg. I've seen Brunkeberg mentioned in numerous other entries but am unfamiliar with the geography, political or geological here.
Hmm Here is the death record farmer's daughter Anne Stenersdatter on Hægtvedt, age 19. If she is the mother of Anders Gunderson, she cannot be the mother of Olaf Pederson, #19:
Source information: Telemark county, Kviteseid, Parish register (official) nr. I 6 (1836-1858), Death and burial records 1846, page 486.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1381&idx_id=1381&uid=ny&idx_side=-497
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Kåarto
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Posted - 29/06/2014 : 23:14:23
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Anne Stenersdatter born 1819 who married Knud Evensen Dec. 5. 1845, her father was Stener Evensen (mother Ane Hansdatter), her father Stener em. to Amerika 1839.
Anne Stenersdatter Hegetvedt who was confirmated 1844, her father was "lensmand" sheriff Stener Halvorsen and mother Dagne Svenungsdatter Hegetvedt. Hegetvedt is outside Seljord .
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jkmarler
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AntonH
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Posted - 29/06/2014 : 23:45:16
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Ancestry birth record for Anne Stennersdatter born 1828. Good find Jackie.Would have put her at 16 at the birth of Anders whch is feasiable.
Name: Anne Stenersdatter
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 1 des 1828 (1 Dec 1828)
Baptism Date: 1 jan 1829
Baptism Place: Aamotsdal, Telemark, Norway
Father: Stener Halvorsen
Mother: Dagne Svennungsdr
FHL Film Number: 127042
Reference ID: 2:T6D9KN
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AntonH
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Posted - 30/06/2014 : 00:05:19
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Marriage record for Dagne and Stener. Stener was born in 1795.
Name: Dagne Svennungsdr
Gender: Female
Age: 19
Birth Date: 1806
Marriage Date: 5 jul 1825
Marriage Place: Veum, Telemark, Norway
Spouse: Stener Halvorsen
FHL Film Number: 278278
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Kåarto
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Posted - 30/06/2014 : 00:26:51
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Veum is a farm in Moland, the administrative center in Fyresdal
They came from Moland to Seljord in 1825.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 30/06/2014 : 00:38:33
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Here is another possible Anne Stenersdatter but at the opposite end of the age spectrum. I can't tell if her record tells if she is single or married or what.
Anne Stenersdatter age 50, #7:
Source information: Telemark county, Seljord, Parish register (official) nr. I 12B (1850-1865), Death and burial records 1852, page 389.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1403&idx_id=1403&uid=ny&idx_side=-174
Don't know if this Anne Stenersdatter is single, married or widow but age is 44 and she is moving into Seljord with her son Stener and his family in 1849:
Source information: Telemark county, Seljord, Parish register (official) nr. I 11 (1831-1849), Migration records 1843-1849, page 355.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1401&idx_id=1401&uid=ny&idx_side=-360
Baptism of Anne Stenersdatter's son Stener Knudson #12:
Source information: Telemark county, Brunkeberg in Kviteseid, Parish register copy nr. II 1 (1815-1842), Birth and baptism records 1819, page 19.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7985&idx_id=7985&uid=ny&idx_side=-22
Marriage of Anne Stenersdatter and Knud Halvorson #10, her age given as 29 (does not match her age at moving into Seljord 1849 of 44):
Source information: Telemark county, Brunkeberg in Kviteseid, Parish register copy nr. II 1 (1815-1842), Marriage records 1820, page 199.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7985&idx_id=7985&uid=ny&idx_side=-165
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AntonH
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AntonH
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Posted - 30/06/2014 : 04:21:18
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Probably her in the Ancestry record
Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 about Dagne Svennungsdatter
Name: Dagne Svennungsdatter
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 29 nov 1806
Baptism Date: 14 des 1806 (14 Dec 1806)
Baptism Place: Fyresdal, Telemark, Norway
Father: Svennung Iversen
Mother: Joron Svendsdr
FHL Film Number: 126927
Reference ID: 2:M034DK
Also on right page middle in Digitalarkivet
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8009&idx_id=8009&uid=ny&idx_side=-46 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 30/06/2014 : 16:52:43
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Oslo June 20. 1873.
Anders em. from Oslo With wife Anne Halvorsdatter and a boy Lars Larsen 6 and a son Gunder ca 3 mths old on ship St. Olav, dest. Australia via Hamburg Germany link
I had hoped to see from what farm they left in Siljord, but it seem like their em. rec. is missing (not unusual)
I have a photo of St. Olav if you do not already have seen it.
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DavidGunderson
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Posted - 30/06/2014 : 17:46:08
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Thanks Kåre...would like to have a photo of St Olav.
Both Lars and Gunder died during the voyage to Australia unfortunately. |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 30/06/2014 : 18:27:21
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Sad to hear about the children.
St Olaf
St. Olav is named after Olaf Haraldsson
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AntonH
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Posted - 30/06/2014 : 23:59:50
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Here is the passenger list for Anders and family leaving Hamburg. No new info in the manifest.
Hamburger Passagierlisten, 1850-1934
Name: Anders Gundersen
Departure Date: 3 Jul 1873
Destination: Queensland
Birth Date: abt 1844
Age: 29
Gender: männlich (Male)
Residence: Telemarken, Norwegen (Norway)
Occupation: Landmann
Ship Name: Humboldt
Captain: Busch
Shipping line: Rob. M. Sloman & Co.
Shipping Clerk: Louis Knorr & Co.
Ship Type: Segelschiff
Accommodation: ohne Angabe
Ship Flag: Deutschland
Port of Departure: Hamburg
Port of Arrival: Queensland
Volume: 373-7 I, VIII A 1 Band 029 A
Household Members:
Name Age
Anders Gundersen
29
Aase Gundersen
28
Lars Gundersen
6
Gunder Gundersen
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JaneC
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Posted - 01/07/2014 : 00:57:05
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From jkmarler:
"The widow Dagni Svennungsd moves into Kviteside in 1841, #29; but there are some details that I can't quite read, if someone else can assist."
See also #30 of above church book page.
Norway, Select Marriages 1660-1926 (from Ancestry.com)
Name: Dagne Sveinungsdatter
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Widowed
Age: 35
Birth Date: 1806
Marriage Date: 19 okt 1841 (19 Oct 1841)
Marriage Place: Kviteseid, Telemark, Norway
Spouse: Sveinung Eivindsen
FHL Film Number: 126954
Reference ID: vol 6
A possiblity, below:
Name: Dagne Sveinungsdatter
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Widowed
Age: 69
Birth Date: 1807
Death Date: 27 apr 1876
Death Place: Lårdal, Telemark, Norway
Burial Date: 25 mai 1876 (25 May 1876)
FHL Film Number: 1282564
Reference ID: Pg 313 #10
A possible sibling for this particular Anne:
Birth Record from Norway, Select Baptisms (Ancestry.com)
Name: Jorond Stenersdatter
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 7 mai 1827 (7 May 1827)
Baptism Date: 3 jun 1827
Baptism Place: Aamotsdal, Telemark, Norway
Father: Stener Haldorsen
Mother: Dagne Svennungsdr
FHL Film Number: 127042
Reference ID: 2:T6D60B
Death record, also from Ancestry.com:
Name: Joraand Stenersdatter
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Age: 6y
Birth Date: 1826
Death Date: 18 aug 1832
Death Place: Kviteseid, Telemark, Norway
Burial Date: 28 aug 1832
Father: Stener Halvorsen
FHL Film Number: 126954
Another sibling's birth, also from Ancestry.com:
Name: Ingebor Stenersdatter
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 12 des 1825 (12 Dec 1825)
Baptism Date: 1 jan 1826
Baptism Place: Aamotsdal, Telemark, Norway
Father: Stener Halvorsen
Mother: Dagne Svennungsdr
FHL Film Number: 127042
Reference ID: 2:T6D389
Same father for this child, below? (Ancestry.com again)
Name: Halvor Stenersen
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 8y
Birth Date: 1831
Death Date: 16 jun 1839
Death Place: Kviteseid, Telemark, Norway
Burial Date: 22 jun 1839
Father: Stener Halvorsen
FHL Film Number: 126954
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JaneC
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Posted - 01/07/2014 : 01:21:22
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From the 2007 thread, transcriptions of the birth-baptism records of Anders and Olaf:
from eibache:
"The name is Anders, born May 1 1844, christened June 9. His mother was 'Ugift Quinde' unmarried woman Anne Stenersdatter Bugten i Sellej. (Seljord) 'der udlegger som fader gift Mand' - who gives as father married man Gunder Jørgensen Toe. Godparents were Maria Ketelsdatter Svarvaren, Niels Ketelsen Svarvaren, Tarje Skoland, Maren Nilsdatter Bugten and Gunild Nilsdatter Bugten.
"Anders was baptized at home by Ole Knudsen Strandstøl and since he was an 'uægte' child the information was 'Anmeldt af Barnemoderen selv i Nils Svarvarens Nærværelse' - given by the childs mother herself with Nils Svarvaren as a witness."
also from eibache:
"Olaf 'twilling' - twin, was born Sept 13 and Nov 21 'i Sellj. stadf. dpt.' - in seljord (curch) confirmed christened (at home).
His parents were 'Ugift Quinde' unmarried woman Anne Stenersdatter Bugten 'og Peder Olsen Gjersand, enkemand' - and Peder Olsen Gjersand, widower. Godfathers were Gunild Hunsaas, Dordi Smeland, Helge Svarvaren, Guttorm Smeland, Halvor Smaadalene. Since Olaf was an 'uægte' child this information was 'Anmeldt af Barnets Moder Selvstendig' - given by the childs mother alone and Olaf was 'hjemedt. af' - christened at home by Jacob Terjesen, Aase.
In the last column is noted 'Quindens 2det Leiermål'- the womans second 'uægte' child - 'dette barn war twilling med et andet som war dødfødt' - this child was a twin with another who was stillborn.
"In the records for burried you will find the record for stillborn child. 'Ugift Quinde Anne Stenersdatter Bugten og enkemand Peder Olsen Bugten Uægte og Dreng samt Twilling med et andet Barn som lever' - uægte and boy together with another child who is living."
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So these names of persons associated with the two baptisms are the known connections of David's Anne Stenersdatter - relatives or friends or neighbors. As Jackie earlier suggested, a clue to Anne's identity may be found here, so thought I'd add these transcriptions to this current thread (with thanks to eibache). |
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Olaf b. 9/13/1847 in Seljord to Anne Stenerdr Bugt
