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tkoller
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 Posted - 30/12/2014 : 10:28:08
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Yes maybe she died early after return from Norway in winter 1886.
Then wath happend to her douther Eva Sopie born 1885 in USA?
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tkoller
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Norway
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Posted - 30/12/2014 : 10:38:45
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Probable her daughter's birth:
Name: Sophie Johnsen
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: 18 Jun 1885
Event Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States
Registration Place: , Cook, Illinois
Gender: Female
Father's Name: Peter Johnsen
Mother's Name: Jenny Jorstad
Wath happend to her later? |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/12/2014 : 11:37:32
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Looks like legal issues were in play. From the Daily Inter-Ocean (Chicago) 9 Dec 1886 pg 11 second section under the heading of "Superior New Suits"
"106,832 Jennie Johnson vs Peter O. Johnson, bill for seperate maintenance for desertion, P.G. Feeney, solr."
Daily Inter-Ocean, 7 Oct 1887 pg 10, col 2:
"62,251 Peter O. Johnson vs Jennie Johnson bill for divorce for adultery, D.F. Flannery, solr."
And then this, Daily Inter-Ocean on 10 Dec 1887 under the heading of "Chancery Court Judge Collins":
"Divorce- 2858 Peter O. Johnson from Jennie Johnson: for adultery"
FYI
"With Separate Maintenance, everything gets decided just like in a divorce case, including property division, child custody, parenting time and support, as well as alimony. The only difference is that when it is all over you can't get married because you are still married. ....One final note, even if you file for Separate Maintenance, your spouse can choose to counterclaim for divorce. " |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 30/12/2014 : 13:04:54
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So far have not located more information on Jennie after the divorce. But have found Peter:
Here is the transcription of the birth record of his and Ovidia Kaspara's son George:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NQY3-9L4
From Daily Illinois State Register 18 Nov 1900 pg 1 "Killed His Son"
"Chicago, Ill. Nov 17: Peter O. Johnson killed his five-year-old son, George, and himself to-day. Carbolic acid caused the death of both..."
The article goes on to describe Peter's despondency over his divorce from George's mother and the break up of their home. The former wife was awarded custody of their 2 children including George. In the census of 1900 Peter is living with the son George and a married couple Samuel and Alice Swanson and is listed as father-in-law, George as brother-in-law. Alice P. Johnson and Samuel Swanson were married during 1900. Alice is listed as born in 1879 and coming to US in 1890 and Peter is listed as coming to US in 1880. Information on these half siblings may be valuable since it may lead to information about Sophie and Jennie. |
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tkoller
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 30/12/2014 : 13:43:21
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Here is Caspara in the 1900 census. living with her son Arthur calling herself divorced:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MS3R-S18
Therein lies the tale since Peter lists himself as married in the 1900 census. I'm guessing she divorced him.
Not sure what it might contain but there is an inquest file on Peter's death. It might also be valuable if Peter had some sort of estate settlement, in which heirs might be listed.
What about Jennie's father's estate? Is she mentioned in it? |
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tkoller
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Posted - 30/12/2014 : 14:47:57
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Her father had a house on the main street of Drammen containing 4 flats, He was married 3 times and got children with 2 of them.
His last wife survived him. He had only Julie in 1. marrige and 3 in second. One of the daughters was widowed after 7 children and lived in the house. She remarried with a man with 4 or 5 children and they where under social care. I believe the property just was sold and she used the money to live on. I have heard that there was some friendless in the family after this.
I know that there was an ad. in the newspaper that those who had something to claim after him should give notice.
To find more I must go to the State Archive in Kongsberg, 4 hours drive from here.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/12/2014 : 15:28:42
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Mr. Jørstad's estate record would be of interest anyway. Perhaps you could email the archives and ask them for search since you have his date of death? The dødfallsprotokol for him might tell what you need to know about Jennie and Sophie, whether living or not and maybe where.
I searched through the Illinois pre 1916 death index for Sophie Johnson but there was none of an age + year of death that could be her.
Perhaps Jennie married another and Sophie was "adopted" by the new partner and they both have different last name than Johnson? There are numerous marriages following Dec 1887 up to 1900 of Jennie Johnson in Cook county. |
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jkmarler
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tkoller
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Posted - 30/12/2014 : 18:04:02
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| The name Forselins. Then she must have changed her name or have been married between. Otherwise it may fit. I have seach for her and Sophie in Norway without any founds. This should say that her name would be Johnson still. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 30/12/2014 : 18:10:01
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| The name Forselin is very strange. The most similar I've seen is Forslin and most of the people with that name are Swedish. So may or may not be her. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 30/12/2014 : 18:16:40
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Here is a long shot for Amelia in the 1900 US Census.
NAME: Amelia Johnson
[Amelie Johnson]
AGE: 42
BIRTH DATE: Feb 1858
BIRTHPLACE: Sweden
HOME IN 1900: Chicago Ward 26, Cook, Illinois
RACE: White
GENDER: Female
IMMIGRATION YEAR: 1888
[1885]
RELATION TO HEAD OF HOUSE: Wife
MARITAL STATUS: Married
SPOUSE'S NAME: John Johnson
MARRIAGE YEAR: 1888
YEARS MARRIED: 12
FATHER'S BIRTHPLACE: Sweden
MOTHER'S BIRTHPLACE: Sweden
MOTHER: NUMBER OF LIVING CHILDREN: 5
MOTHER: HOW MANY CHILDREN: 6
OCCUPATION: View on Image
NEIGHBORS: View others on page
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
John Johnson 35
Amelia Johnson 42
Mary Johnson 11
Gustave Johnson 9
Elmer Johnson 7
Eles Johnson 4
Erick Johnson 2 |
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tkoller
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Norway
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Posted - 30/12/2014 : 18:17:07
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Amelia was born in Norway. Her maiden name was Jørstad
Another shot for Sophie:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NQR7-1MC
Only 18, but that was not unusual at the time.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/12/2014 : 18:22:56
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May not be such a long shot. Here is the family in 1910. Amelia uses the middle initial of J and John uses the middle initial of L. See the marriage doc posted by Jackie.
NAME: Amelia J Johnson
AGE IN 1910: 51
BIRTH YEAR: abt 1859
BIRTHPLACE: Sweden
HOME IN 1910: Chicago Ward 24, Cook, Illinois
RACE: White
GENDER: Female
IMMIGRATION YEAR: 1887
RELATION TO HEAD OF HOUSE: Wife
MARITAL STATUS: Married
SPOUSE'S NAME: John L Johnson
FATHER'S BIRTHPLACE: Sweden
MOTHER'S BIRTHPLACE: Sweden
NEIGHBORS: View others on page
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
John L Johnson 45
Amelia J Johnson 51
Mary C A Johnson 20
Gustave L Johnson 18
Hjalman J M Johnson 16
Ellis M N Johnson 14
Eric R Johnson 12
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tkoller
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Posted - 30/12/2014 : 18:35:22
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| Then what happend to Sophie, she was 15 in 1910 and should ve living with her mother. This link is still missing. |
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Jenny Amalie Jansen
