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tkoller
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Posted - 14/01/2015 : 12:55:55
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Ferdinand A Datz Trygdeordningens dødsfallsregistre i USA (SSDI) GRATIS Født: 17. apr 1906 Død: 10. jan 1989 Siste bosted: Chicago, Illinois 60618, USA Ferdinand Datz
Ferdinand Datz 1930 United States Føderale folketelling Født: Ca 1908 - Sted Bosted: 1930 - Sted Foreldre: Navn til begge foreldre
Other information in the record of Ferdinand A Datz from Illinois, Cook County Deaths Name: Ferdinand A Datz Event Type: Death Event Date: 10 Jan 1989 Event Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States Address: 4018 N Central Park Gender: Male Age: 82 Marital Status: Married Race: White Occupation: Driver Birth Date: 17 Apr 1906 Birth Year (Estimated): 1907 Birthplace: , , Illinois Funeral Home: Hollerbach Cemetery: Montrose Father's Name: Edward Datz Mother's Name: Sophie Johnson Spouse's Name: Eva Hedwig Langmesser Entry Number: 600583 Søsken: Edward Datz, Jr og navnet til en eller flere søsken
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 14/01/2015 : 13:38:02
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Here is a marriage record transcription in which a Jenny C Johnson b. 1858 marries:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N7DW-3TT
Name: Carl C Jensen Age: 41 Birth Year (Estimated): 1858 Birth Date: 1858 Spouse's Name: Jenny C. Johnson Spouse's Age: 41 Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1858 Spouse's Birth Date: 1858 License Type: Marriage Event Date: 24 Aug 1899 Event Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois |
Edited by - jkmarler on 14/01/2015 13:40:52 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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tkoller
Medium member
Norway
89 Posts |
Posted - 14/01/2015 : 17:21:37
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I will bee home from the Reumatic Hospital Friday Then I will read trough all the topics to get a overlook. Hope to do that just over the weekend. Maybe it's something I've overlooked. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 14/01/2015 : 21:06:36
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Glad to hear you will be home again Friday. ;-)
Here's a candidate for Sophie Johnsen Datz - not a perfect fit:
1900 US Census Chicago Ward 14, Cook, Illinois Erick Johnson 65 b Jul 1834 Norway, to USA 1872 Josaphine Johnson 49 b Aug 1850, Norway Charlie Johnson 21 b Oct 1871 Norway Annie Johnson 18 b July 1881 Illinois Sophie Johnson 15 b Feb 1885 Illinois Ammy Johnson 6 b Nov 1893 Illinois
Probably this is the family in 1880:
1880 Chicago, Cook, Illinois Erik Johnsen 45 b abt 1835 Norway Josephine Johnsen 29 b abt 1851 Norway Janne Johnsen 10 b Norway Charles Johnsen 8 b Norway Johanna Johnsen 1 b Illinois Bernhard Andersen nephew
BIRTH: Karl Eriksen, born 28 October 1871 in Asker, Akershus, Norway, Parents: Erik Johnsen and Josephine Simensen Karl's birth
DEATH: Charles Johnson born 28 October 1871 in Norway, died 19 April 1944 in Chicago. Parents Erick Johnson and Josephine Simonson. Charles Death
Perhaps this is the same Erick, died in 1903 |
Edited by - JaneC on 15/01/2015 00:01:52 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 14/01/2015 : 21:19:05
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Not that it couldn't be, but Amy that lived with the family in 1920 or 1930 was born about 1881--not 1893. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 14/01/2015 : 22:01:44
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Yes, I realize.
Haven't found Carl C Jensen and Jenny C Johnson as a married couple in 1900.
HOGDON family tree on Ancestry for Sophie Datz (1885- ?) and Eddie Datz (1880-1959). Quite a bit of info on the Datz side; none on the Johnson side.
1900 US Census says Peter O Johnson born March 1851 Norway. Marriage to Caroline Sophie Larsen says his father is Johan Christiansen. So here's a candidate for birth of Peter Oluf Johansen 15 Mar 1851 with parents Johan Christiansen and Anne Marie Petersdatter. Spydeberg, Ostfold
May not be useful / relevant in tracking in Jennie...taking long shots today. |
Edited by - JaneC on 14/01/2015 22:21:00 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 15/01/2015 : 00:21:31
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Since Sophie was so young in Norway, perhaps she was baptized there in Drammen?
An extreme long shot from the ELCA database Sophie Johnson b. 30 Apr 1885 was confirmed 29 Apr 1900 in a Chicago church not identified by name just as an "American Lutheran" church. Parents are not named in the record, information is only as given here.
For the younger Amy Johnson a possible in ELCA database: Amy Josephine Johnson, no age given confirmed 26 May 1904, living at 581 Evergreen Avenue. Again no church named and location is given as Cook or Dupage, Illinois. |
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tkoller
Medium member
Norway
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Posted - 15/01/2015 : 13:11:45
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I haven't been able to find her baptized in Drammen at her home chuch. If she was baptized in Oslo it will take some time.Have to find were her father in law lived if she stayed therefor a while.
Found Family Search:
Jennie Johnson mentioned in the record of May Florence Johnson Name: Jennie Johnson Birthplace: Nor Gender: Female Husband: Unknown Johnson Daughter: May Florence Johnson Other information in the record of May Florence Johnson from Illinois, Cook County Birth Registers Name: May Florence Johnson Birth Date: 12 Dec 1888 Birthplace: Chicago, Cook, Illinois Gender: Female Race (Original): W Race: White Father's Name: Unknown Johnson Mother's Name: Jennie Johnson Mother's Birthplace: Nor |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2015 : 18:53:21
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Jane's most recent names have been struckthrough on page 6. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2015 : 12:54:27
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Jane's most recent names have been struck through on the list. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2015 : 17:42:47
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Thanks Jackie. Fred Theorell got missed - his Jennie is Swedish. I have been deleting my lists of names as you strikethrough - no point in redundancy. Many hands make light work - if anyone additional has time to check out a handful of names on Jackie's list (page 6), that would be great. We both expressed earlier this process of eliminations would be a painful task, most especially because it is mind- numbingly boring! But not difficult... |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2015 : 19:25:35
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Fred Theorell was on the list twice but only struck through once. |
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tkoller
Medium member
Norway
89 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2015 : 18:50:29
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https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NQXY-Y36 ?
Jennie Johnson mentioned in the record of John Norman Inayle Name: Jennie Johnson Birthplace: Norway Gender: Female Husband: William Inayle Son: John Norman Inayle Other information in the record of John Norman Inayle from Michigan, Births Name: John Norman Inayle Birth Date: 26 Apr 1899 Birthplace: Ishpeming, Marquette, Michigan Gender: Male Father's Name: William Inayle Father's Birthplace: Michigan Mother's Name: Jennie Johnson Mother's Birthplace: Norway Reference ID: item 1 p 271 rn 1015 , GS Film number: 2322870 , Digital Folder Number: 4207547 , Image Number: 131
Possible ?
TOK
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 04/04/2015 : 21:46:06
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We can look into it (I cannot help today or next few days, though). It's possible Jenny later lived in a place like Ishpeming, but the location makes it a little unlikely. This would be somewhat like moving from Bergen to a small village in the far north of Norway. In this era the usual trend was to move away from farms and small villages and move into big cities, rather than the other way around. (Of course some individuals don't follow the usual trend!) Also, if she remarried and had a child, wouldn't she write home? |
Edited by - JaneC on 04/04/2015 21:54:51 |
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