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LCampbell
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 Posted - 20/05/2015 : 01:42:09
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| I don't have much on any siblings other than Mary Serkland other than years of birth. |
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AntonH
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AntonH
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Posted - 20/05/2015 : 02:35:29
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Here is a marriage for a Lars Hansen and Kari Olsdatter in Lom, Oppland, in 1873.
Lars Hansen in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Lars Hansen
Gender: Male
Age: 48
Birth Date: 18 des 1824 (18 Dec 1824)
Marriage Date: 25 apr 1873
Marriage Place: Lom, Opland, Norway
Father: Hans Jakobsen
Spouse: Kari Olsdr
FHL Film Number: 1282596
Reference ID: 2:FCW7ZX
In this record the father of Lars Hansen is named Hans Jakobsen and the fatther of Kari Olsdatter is listed in the reverse record as Ole Erlandsen.
Here is the marriage in Digitalarkivet.
Note the farm associated with this couple looks like Aamoden (sp?), similar to the farm name in the 1875 Norwegian Census.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6072&idx_id=6072&uid=ny&idx_side=-192 |
Edited by - AntonH on 20/05/2015 02:36:07 |
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LCampbell
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Posted - 20/05/2015 : 02:38:26
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This was a response from the Pastor of St. Olaf...
I did look @ the cemetery book that was compiled from old burial records a few years ago. I haven't gotten a chance to comb through the church records (all handwritten & in Norwegian from that time) There are actually 2 entries in the cemetery records for a Kari Rusten w/ a note that it was suspected that they are probably the same person & most likely reinterred at some point (probably when either the church was rebuilt or the entry was added, the cemetery is on 3 sides of the church building. In 1929, they moved the old church & built the new one on the old site. An entry was added in 1968 & I believe a few graves were moved) One record has death @ age 69 in 1920 & the other entry lists it as age 70 in 1921. Hopefully the church records are more accurate. The is only one listing for Lars Hanson Rusten, died @ age 70 in April of 1893. |
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AntonH
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LCampbell
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Posted - 20/05/2015 : 03:01:50
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| There is so much new information to process. I am going to take a break from looking and compile what I have to see what is still needed to answer. Thank you all for your tremendous help. I do want to make sure I have the correct Kari in the States and to clarify the two Kari's, mother and daughter. |
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JaneC
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Posted - 20/05/2015 : 03:14:09
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lcampbell, you posted as I wrote...
Laughing, as, I reposted the 1885, and lyndal40, you've just reposted 5 records I'd already posted. Symptomatic of our bemusement. I have little or no doubt that that the 1865 and 1875 census are the same Lars; at least no other near-age Lars Hansen born in Lom turns up.
About Kari Larsdatter born 1878 not being found in the 1885 census with the "Hans Hansen" family in Odin: yes, that's a mismatch. She might be accidentally omitted. Seemingly lcampbell has some reason to believe she is later found in St Peter at the state hospital (and wish those census findings were posted!). Could she have a handicap and need special care away from the family? She is buried beside father Lars, as we infer from the headstone, and lcambell has ordered the death certificate - back with correction - cemetery records (checked by and with thanks to the current pastor) suggest the tombstone is wrong re Kari birth year. The cemetery records say the Kari buried 1920 was age 69 - making this Kari the correct age to be Lars's wife, not daughter.
But if the "Hans Hanson" family in 1885 in Odin is a different family....
I would readily accept that the census taker erred in Hans should read Lars -- except then why are Sigurd's personal records repeating that his father is Hans?
Theories of how major accidents happen say they result from not one factor but rather from a series of unfortunate events. Is that what's happened to Sigurd?
Seemingly, yes.
Because his baby book names his parents as LARS and Kari Rusten.
And his brother Peter called their father LARS in Sigurd's death record.
Darn it that the church records don't confirm.
I did not see the death of Kari Olsdatter (Hanson) (Rusten) in the St Olaf church book. |
Edited by - JaneC on 22/05/2015 18:30:02 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 20/05/2015 : 03:17:46
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Sorry Jane, I think we have an excess of information and I am lost in the forest without the ability to see the trees 
Yes,I guess when I come around full circle, you are right, the Lars Hansen in the 1865 Census and the 1875 Census are the same man and thus in his second marriage. Here is his birth record and the date mathces the marriage record I posted earlier. This has probably been posted as well but I am too tired to look for it.
Number 13
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9242&idx_id=9242&uid=ny&idx_side=-77 |
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LCampbell
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Posted - 20/05/2015 : 03:29:00
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Last post of the night for me...
Thanks Jane for summing up so clearly.
One thing though, I think the headstone inscription is incorrect for Kari and it is the mother not daughter buried there because of the age recorded in the church records. Also, I think that it is the mother Kari in St. Peter's hospital. One reason is that Kari disappears from any further census records in Odin. Sigurd is there at age 13 with another family. My inclination is that the daughter may have died as a young girl between 1880 and 1885. I will keep searching for records to prove or disprove.
I will post the census records and any additional support I find. Taking a break to get organized.
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jkmarler
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AntonH
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Posted - 20/05/2015 : 03:45:49
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| Looks like twins for Lars and Kari Hansen just above in 1886? |
Edited by - AntonH on 20/05/2015 03:49:30 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 20/05/2015 : 03:55:43
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I wonder if your Hans born of Lars and Kari Rustin, turned into a Larsen. Here is a Hans O Larsen born abt 1888 in Odin Minnesota.
Hans O Larson in the Iowa, State Census Collection, 1836-1925
Name: Hans O Larson
Age: 27
Birth Year: abt 1888
Birth Place: Odin, Minn
Residence Date: 1915
Residence Place: Lee, Buena Vista, Iowa, USA
Race: White
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Father Birth Place: Norway
Mother Birth Place: Norway |
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JaneC
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Posted - 20/05/2015 : 04:01:16
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| Yes, I did already post Lars's birth record - but your reasoning is irresistible Anton. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 20/05/2015 : 04:42:13
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quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40
Looks like twins for Lars and Kari Hansen just above in 1886?
Thanks I hadn't even made the potential connection-- I was following the index entry in and not looking at the other possibilities.
The baptismal record of these twins give their names somewhat differently: Hans Thomas & Olaf Ottesen. 21 Mar 1886, bapt 30 Mar 1886. The faddernes for each are (Hans') Hans Kjobstad, Laurits Lund, Ole Rudsten; (Olaf Otteson) Martin Sivatson, Lina Sivatson, Margaret Hansen.
There is another couple having babies of the name Lars Hansen and Mari Hansen. Their child in the baptismal record is Laurits b. 3 Feb 1885, bapt 22 Mar 1885; faddernes: Lars Langland, Elias Larsen, Nils Langeland, Ane Oie, Basitan Larsen.
A Lars Hansen and Karen Hansen had a baby named Karl b. 7 Jan 1884, bapt 4 Apr 1884; faddernes: Christian Hansen, Peder Pedersen, Anne Pedersen, Oline Pedersen |
Edited by - jkmarler on 20/05/2015 11:14:34 |
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jkmarler
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Looking for information on Emma S. Moen
