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AntonH
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 Posted - 21/05/2015 : 00:32:37
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In this record you can see the orginal document if you have an Ancestry.com subscription. . Thomas has left the place for mother blank and lists his fatheras Lars Larsen.
Name: Thomas Larson
Birth Year: abt 1888
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birth Place: Martin County Minn.
Residence Place: Windon Minn.
Marriage Age: 39
Marriage Date: 14 May 1927
Marriage Place: Spirit Lake, Iowa, USA
Father: Lars Larson
Spouse: Ollie Roland Bray
Spouse Gender: Female
Spouse Race: White
Spouse Marriage Age: 29
Spouse Birth Place: Nurmbalt County Iowa
Spouse Residence Place: Windon Minn.
Spouse Father: Jacob Rolland
Spouse Mother: Maggie Larson
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LCampbell
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Posted - 21/05/2015 : 01:02:29
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| So what happened to the other twin? I am also still checking for any death records on the daughter Kari born in 1878 in Norway. I will ask the Pastor to see if there is anything in the church records for these two. I would like to get the birth records for Lars and Peter from Norway if possible. That might help trace them here. I would also like to get Kari's mothers name (have her father's name now from the marriage record) My family tree that has had huge gaps and question marks is filling in at last! |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 21/05/2015 : 01:02:58
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lcampbell may have this....
(Minnesota Historical Society records)
DEATH
HANS OLAF LARSON
Date of Birth: 17 DEC 1887
Place of Birth: MINNESOTA
Mother Maiden Name: NOT KNOWN
CERTID# 1971-MN-005867
Date of Death: 13 MAR 1971
County of Death: GOODHUE
MINNIE AMELIA LARSON
Date of Birth: 02 AUG 1879
Place of Birth: MINNESOTA
Mother Maiden Name: ERICKSON
CERTID# 1965-MN-008656
Date of Death: 09 APR 1965
County of Death: GOODHUE
BIRTH
HARRIET ALVIDA LARSON
Date of Birth: 11 MAY 1918
Mother Maiden Name: WITHAL
1885
Odin, Watonwan, Minnesota
Lars J Wetal 26 b Norway
Martha Wetal 33 b Norway
Mina Wetal 5 b Minnesota
Anna Wetal 4 b Minnesota
Alliza Wetal 2 b Minnesota
Marra Wetal age 0 b Minnesota
1895 Minnesota State Census in Odin, Watonwan, Minnesota
same family, under "Minne Wethal"
1900 US Census
Butterfield, Watonwan, Minnesota
Laurits Wethal 41 b July 1858 Norway married 1878, to USA 1879
Mathia Wethal 49 b Feb 1851 Norway
Minna Wethal 20 born August 1879 Minnesota
Emma Wethal 19
Alice Wethal 17
Mare Wethal 15
Ingeborg Wethal 13
Agnes Wethal 10
Anna Wethal 9
Hellen Wethal 4
1905 Minnesota State Census in Butterfield, Watonwan, Minnesota
same family, under "Manie Wittel"
1910
Butterfield, Watonwan, Minnesota
L E Wethall 53
Mathea Wethall 59
Minnie Wethall 30
Alice Wethall 26
Anna Wethall 19
Helen Wethall 14
Arthur Wethall 10
Andrew Nelson 30
Luther Narber 58
L Emmanuel Hansen 17
1920
Storm Lake, Buena Vista, Iowa
Hans Larson 34 born about 1886 Minnesota, barber
Minnie Larson 40 b abt 1880 Minnesota
Howard M Larson 3 [3 years 2 months] b abt 1917 Iowa
Harriet Larson 1 [1 year 7 months] born Minnesota
1930
Welcome, Martin county, Minnesota
Hans O Larson 42 born about 1888 Minnesota
Minnie A Larson 50 born about 1880 Minnesota
Howard M Larson 13 born Iowa
Harriet A Larson 11 born Minnesota
1940
Winthrop, Sibley, Minnesota
Hans A Larson 52 barber
Minnie A Larson 60
Howard M Larson 23 barber
Lucille L Larson 22
Iowa Marriage Records
Name: Howard Larson
Birth Year: abt 1914
Birth Place: Spencer Iowa
Residence Place: Mapleton Minn [Blue Earth County]
Marriage Age: 22
Marriage Date: 30 Dec 1936
Marriage Place: Forest City, Iowa, USA
Occupation: Barber
Father: Hans Larson
Mother: Minnie Wethal
Spouse: Luville Nirnow
Spouse Marriage Age: 20
Spouse Birth Place: Beaven Dawn Wis
Spouse Residence Place: Mapleton Minn
Spouse Father: Audir Nirnow
Spouse Mother: Marie Nienow
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LCampbell
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Posted - 21/05/2015 : 01:06:45
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| IF Kari went to St. Peter's in 1888, Sigurd was only 8 and the twins would be 2 and Hans only 1sh. Then Lars died 5 years later. These children hardly knew either parent. |
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jkmarler
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LCampbell
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Posted - 21/05/2015 : 01:23:13
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| Dates of birth and immigration are correct. And Odin is not a very big place. :) |
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LCampbell
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Posted - 21/05/2015 : 01:52:09
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| The death record listing Moen as the mother is not my Lars but somehow goes back to the beginning of this thread. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/05/2015 : 02:01:09
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| The birthdate matches, reserve judgement before you reject. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 21/05/2015 : 02:02:31
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One thing rumbling around in my head. Jackie foiund a death certificate for Thomas Larsen with not only the exact correct birth date but also the name Rusten. Now who is it in Redwood County that knew these facts. If the Thomas Larson that I found in Redwood/Brown and Renville County is the correct person,he did not even know his correct birth date for his WWI Registraton and did not know his mothers name for his second marriage in Iowa.
Boggles my mind
Maybe worth obtaining the Death Cert and find out who filled it out. |
Edited by - AntonH on 21/05/2015 02:03:58 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/05/2015 : 02:03:43
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quote:
Originally posted by LCampbell
I would like to get the birth records for Lars and Peter from Norway if possible. That might help trace them here.
I believe baptismal records of both Lars and Peter have already been posted. Those records ARE the vital records for Norway during that era. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/05/2015 : 02:07:47
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quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40
One thing rumbling around in my head. Jackie foiund a death certificate for Thomas Larsen with not only the exact correct birth date but also the name Rusten. Now who is it in Redwood County that knew these facts. If the Thomas Larson that I found in Redwood/Brown and Renville County is the correct person,he did not even know his correct birth date for his WWI Registraton and did not know his mothers name for his second marriage in Iowa.
Boggles my mind
Maybe worth obtaining the Death Cert and find out who filled it out.
Definately getting cert to see who is informant would be good. My guess is his wife knew the family business, as they usually do!
But truly none of us know our own birthdate unless someone else informs us. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/05/2015 : 02:11:52
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Here are the baptism record for Lars and Peter found in Digitalarkivet. Posted earlier by Jane and then duplicated by me in a posting frenzy in the wee houirs of the night. These are the only birth record that you will be able to obtain.
Lars See Number 44
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6072&idx_id=6072&uid=ny&idx_side=-53
When I look at the original record I think it says that Lars is an illegimate child and that this is the first sexual experience for the couple. ie "lejermål fornication, sexual intercourse between unmarried persons" . If this Hans Larsen is the same as the Hans Larsen found in the 1865 Norwegian Census, should it not state that he was already married?
Peder See number 64
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6072&idx_id=6072&uid=ny&idx_side=-69 |
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LCampbell
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Posted - 21/05/2015 : 02:17:15
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Thank you, I missed them with all of the information.
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LCampbell
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Posted - 21/05/2015 : 02:24:26
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| I need to go back and read through everything posted ! |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 21/05/2015 : 02:31:07
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| Well Nancy we are counting on you being able to sort though all of the various bits and pieces of information posted and come up with a coherent and supportable story. That may be a very long and time consuming task. This is a very interesting and complex family to say the least. |
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Looking for information on Emma S. Moen
